Trying to Wake the dead

[Brad the lad]

I see lots of people on various groups that I'm on saying about waking everyone up. This is important and as good humans beings it is almost our duty but if you are soley dependent on waking enough people up and it being the answer to all the problems ahead then  I can't help but feel that you are putting all your eggs in one basket. Being aware of the possibilty of NOT enough people waking up is just as important. Some people say "You can't focus on that because what you visualize becomes your reality". The trouble with that is if you are not prepared with the circumstances of the majority not waking up then if it becomes a reality it will hit you twice as hard.

 

How many people on here would be prepared to...

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

 

If you are not able to come to terms with the above then the searching must come from within. If you are preaching to others about waking up without facing all of he above then you are living in fear or even worse denial. I have come to see that I'm struggling with a couple from above. I know some here have already ticked most above and fair play to you. Number 4 is the big one though and if you have not come to terms with that one then you are owned/controllable  and very much in the matrix. This is even harder if you are not religous to achieve and it's a journey I have only just started.

Spiritual War all the way.

Edited June 4, 2020 by Brad the lad

[Fluke]

You won't wake the normies up. You just won't. People haven't realised yet that the majority of the population don't have an inner dialogue and are just programmed robots. I agree that it's a spiritual warfare but trying to wake people up becomes a crusade in itself and in my opinion is stupid at best. Find people and surround yourself with those that can think and are not programmed. 

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

All 3 of them are completely counterproductive apart from number 4. Why would you put yourself through that? 

[Brad the lad]

Not wanting to at all and  infact the complete opposite for me. I do  feel though that they will push it that direction in the end. Make it impossible to live as you are now without the jab. You could be forced to change your lifestyle completly. If your lifestyle is governed by 1,2 and 3 then you can't really leave the system? Then you are controlled.

[jonesthepost]

58 minutes ago, Fluke said:

You won't wake the normies up. You just won't. People haven't realised yet that the majority of the population don't have an inner dialogue and are just programmed robots. I agree that it's a spiritual warfare but trying to wake people up becomes a crusade in itself and in my opinion is stupid at best. Find people and surround yourself with those that can think and are not programmed. 

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

All 3 of them are completely counterproductive apart from number 4. Why would you put yourself through that? 

 

I tend to agree with you there; and with some, even if they have suspicions of what is really going on, they’ll keep quiet so they ‘fit in’ with the rest of the ‘normies’.

 

Imo, the worst ones are those who agree with whoever they happen to be around at the time; and they’ll stab you/them in the back; a lot of humans are so duplicitous; I avoid most as much as I can.

 

Again, imo, I think a lot of humans have been ‘taken over’ by archons/aliens/ or whatever; especially these days.

They seem to be ‘vacant’, and a lot have psychopathic tendencies; no warmth

 

So no, I’m not going round waking anyone up; I’ll make remarks that refute any bs, and that’s about it.

[TruthSeeker27]

Just about to go to bed, so will not be able to respond to any messages in the meantime, but feel free to comment on what I have to say (for it will spark strong reactions from some, no doubt)... This whole idea of yours (and Fluke's, who I spoke with before) is nonsense, in my opinion. It is, quite frankly, ridiculous. These may seem like strong words, but I'm afraid they're necessary. Let's look at the four steps and analyse them. But before we do, let's all agree on something.

 

What is playing out before us, on a global scale...is all part of the plan. All of it. I'm not God. I'm not some almighty, all-knowing being. I don't know how each piece of the puzzle fits. In my time I've gone from believing that COVID is real but being overhyped and used to scare us, to agreeing completely with Mr. Icke in thinking that there is no new, unique Coronavirus at all (it would explain a few things, while also adding some more questions, and thus that's why I flip flop between the two). I sometimes think that George Floyd's death was planned. Then I think they're just taking advantage of an extraordinary slice of luck that's come their way (a psychopathic cop), and sometimes I wonder if the WHOLE thing was staged, and that Floyd is still alive or was killed afterwards. But all that matters is that we all agree on one thing... The large majority of humanity are being successfully conned. We're moving towards the endgame now. We only have pieces of the puzzle, but even so, we have a good idea what the picture will look like when it's completed. We may not know how to fit the pieces together, but we still know that the ending (if they get their way) results in a truly horrifying picture, and our world will be changed forever... Now let's tackle those four points.

 

1. Give up ALL possessions.

To do this indicates to cut and run from, essentially, pieces of yourself. True, they are meaningless in the large scheme of things, but they are things that bring me hope and enjoyment. Why should I abandon them. What is the point?... Which moves us onto point number two.

 

2. Give up your job/trade?

Again, to do this, indicates a desire to flee. To flee for what? Your lives? Well, you're already destroying your lives by running out on your job, possessions, and, let's face it, family members as well (you don't mention family, but my family wouldn't be going with me if I did this, so I'd be leaving them behind as well). Again, what is the point?... Onto point number three!

 

3. Turn your back on the medical system you know?

Again, I ask, what is the point? I don't fully trust our NHS (especially not at the moment), but why, if we're to run away from such things, are we fleeing from the health service? Sure, in some form they're part of this, but I refuse to believe that every single doctor and nurse is in on the scam. It just isn't possible. I'd be far more likely to run from the police (who are corrupt through and through in the US and Britain, in my opinion) than I would from the health service.

 

4. Be at peace with death.

I am. On this, we agree. To fully live. we must not live in fear of death. I faced death many years back now (at least it feels like it was many years ago). He isn't so bad... When my time comes, I shall embrace him like an old friend. But in the meantime, I'm going to fight.

 

Which brings me to the core point of my message... We MUST fight. Is it foolish? I don't know, maybe. Is it pointless? I don't know, maybe... But trust me, there's no alternative. I know it, David Icke knows it (and that's why, whether you think it's pointless or not, he urged us to share his messages with EVERYONE we know), and deep down, so do you. You see, you can give up all those things and try and run. But where are you running to? The world's a small place these days, and it's only going to get smaller and smaller. In the end, they will come for you, and whatever band of rebels are with you, they'll bring you to heel, because you'll have no one to stand and fight with you.

 

So yes, you could try and strike out and enjoy some final months of true freedom, before the net closes in...or you could stand and fight. Stand and fight with me and everyone else who still believes in the force of good! It embodies itself in so many different ways, in hidden ways that sometimes must be searched for in the heart, not with the eyes. From Mr. Icke himself (his awakening a gift from the force of good itself) to those around us who are slowly but surely, finding pieces of the puzzle. We may not know how to put all the pieces together, but they don't even know how to make a start. It's our job, our duty (I feel that strongly about it, yes) to help them to realise what those pieces mean, and how some of them fit together. Of course the average, "normal" person will not understand, and some of them never will... But here's the thing...some of them will get it. You may have tried and failed, but you may have just been pushing for success too soon. Quite recently (around two weeks back), I spoke with a black American friend of mine about COVID-19 and how it was, one way or another, a scam. I spoke of the cult/cabal that runs this world behind the scenes, but I also touched on how they keep the world divided through feeding the divisions and creating hate within us... And now, thanks to the seed of truth I planted, she's seeing the George Floyd situation for what it is. Yes, she's angry, and she supports BLM (and so do I, to a point, I just believe they're being manipulated by evil forces, just like their opponents), but she's now in full agreement with me in regards to COVID-19, and is questioning the narrative and looting and rioting. She's questioning all of it and is going through the early stages of awakening...

 

To sum up. Yes, it may seem like a mammoth task, but it's really not. Not when you realise that when you wake someone up, they themselves have the potential to wake someone else up. And that's how hope, true hope, is born.

 

Finally, to quote my favourite line from Cloud Atlas (brilliant book and a fantastic film adaption to boot).

 

"And for what? For what? No matter what you do it will never amount to anything but a single drop in a limitless ocean!"

 

"What is an ocean...but a multitude of drops."

Edited June 4, 2020 by TruthSeeker27

[Messenger]

1 hour ago, Brad the lad said:

I see lots of people on various groups that I'm on saying about waking everyone up. This is important and as good humans beings it is almost our duty but if you are soley dependent on waking enough people up and it being the answer to all the problems ahead then  I can't help but feel that you are putting all your eggs in one basket. Being aware of the possibilty of NOT enough people waking up is just as important. Some people say "You can't focus on that because what you visualize becomes your reality". The trouble with that is if you are not prepared with the circumstances of the majority not waking up then if it becomes a reality it will hit you twice as hard.

 

How many people on here would be prepared to...

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

 

If you are not able to come to terms with the above then the searching must come from within. If you are preaching to others about waking up without facing all of he above then you are living in fear or even worse denial. I have come to see that I'm struggling with a couple from above. I know some here have already ticked most above and fair play to you. Number 4 is the big one though and if you have not come to terms with that one then you are owned/controllable  and very much in the matrix. This is even harder if you are not religous to achieve and it's a journey I have only just started.

Spiritual War all the way.

Brad, thanks for making a thread to discuss these topics.

My take on it.

 

I had my awakening in 2009 so I have been trying to wake people up for over a decade. My parents were awake in the 80's as they were a product of the hippie era and they saw the bullshit of the Vietnam war which was a lie and all the protests because peace was the big thing that I believe the CIA created accidentally with the music industry and LSD, and marijuana prohibition. For more on that if you are interested I recommend listening to Dave McGowan and his documentary about Laurel Canyon.

So needless to say my parent's were a strong catalyst for my awakening even though for years I and my sibling thought they were crazy. But then in 2009 I realized that they weren't and many pieces began falling into place.

 

1. Already done that and been homeless before, living out of a car, lost a lot almost everything, almost everything important to me anyway. Try sleeping in the drivers seat of a little car every night for a year while working a full time job on your feet all day, dodging people and police to find a safe parking spot, waking up much earlier than you need to so you can shower at the local gym. Eating breakfast and dinner in the drivers seat, raw food uncooked is really all I knew and actually kept me very healthy since all I was able to eat were vegetables, fruits, nuts, and seeds. Was it humiliating? Yes. Was it embarrassing? Yup. Did I get to the point where I didn't give a shit about waking people up anymore and F humanity? Yup.

 

2. I get bored easy, once I feel like I have mastered something or close to it then I move on to another trade. A Gemini trait I suppose, why we are labeled as "flaky", which I consider an insult. It's really that we are a jack of many trades but not a pro at any one thing, and the other part is that I feel cursed, I never get to finish a project I start, there seems to always be this higher power that throws a monkey wrench into it at the last minute just before I am to experience glory of completing a task. I'm sure I'm not the only person this happens to. Do I wish I were different and been at one job my entire life? Sort of but then I think about it and it seems dreadful to me because then I wouldn't have such diverse knowledge about the world. I look at other people who have been at one job, like so many car guys who all they know is cars, and I dread that thought of being ignorant about the bigger picture and focused on material items and money my entire life. Now I look at those people with all their money and material items and I feel sorry for them because they are usually living a lie to keep it that way. See the medical industry for example.

 

3. The medical system, in America anyway, is a giant pile of fraudulent shit built on profit and controlling people, not curing and healing dis-ease. And it goes hand in hand with the "education" system of indoctrination who have purposely kept students ignorant of how to truly heal and cure dis-ease. Most people who I have met who work in the medical industry are not healthy physically or mentally.

 

I don't mean to be a jerk but for example I was at a costco last week waiting for someone cause I wasn't going inside and be forced to wear a mask, and I notice this obese lady comes hobbling out of the store pushing a cart. She's walking up to the vehicle parked right in front of me which had a special license plate designated "RN" for registered nurse (I call them registered nincompoops).  I'm thinking no way this lady is getting into the RN Jeep. Sure as shit she walks up to it and opens the door. I am trying to mind my own business but I can't help it and I'm watching her load the items into her vehicle and all of them were poison. A couple cases of soda pop coke or pepsi garbage, chips, beer, giant packages of meat that looks like beef, all acid. No wonder she is so dis-eased, she is eating nothing but poison! And yet this lady is making plenty of money working in the "health" "care" industry probably giving so many people bad advice, but she thinks she is correct because she has that degree that says she is smart.  Way too many of these people in 'Merica in the "health" "care" industry. Sorry if I offend anyway but it's true. Not all people in the industry but a LOT of them.

4. Be at peace with death. Lol. I have been taunting the reaper for years calling him a bitch who is too afraid to come see me. Most days I believe that there is someone who should be here in place of me. I would trade places with a Palestinian kid so he or she could live the life they were robbed from due to zionist demon netanyahu (nutandyahoo). I would trade places with the mother or father who was stolen from their children by a murderer, drunk driver, robbery gone wrong, whatever.

Does my outlook on all of this sound grim and depressing? Yeah probably, but I'm tired of this world that is made for the ignorant or corrupt to excel.

The silver lining in this however is those of us who are awake can now make the difference needed to help change the world for the better. Because before we were awake, typically we were very service to self people, unconscious of the bigger picture, me me me selfish attitude. Once a person is awake often times they begin to make decisions based on the bigger picture and greater good.

This is what many "woke" people don't understand, that trying to wake someone before they are ready is actually bad, every person wakes when they are ready and fighting against that is a waste of the gift of being awake. Those of who are awake should focus on what we are being told to do for the greater good, the bigger picture. That's what being "woke" is all about. It's about finally hearing your true self and the messages that you are receiving from the creator or "God" if you want to call it that.

 

[Messenger]

Lol, sorry for the long rant, Brad. Blowing off steam on the keyboard, even though I did bike ride today, I guess I should have rode a few more miles. 

[alexa]

7 hours ago, Brad the lad said:

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

 I would personally never do this as a few years back the NHS saved my life as I had to have an emergency heart operation. I was half dead when they helicoptered me for the op.

Edited June 4, 2020 by alexa

[Yasmina]

9 hours ago, Brad the lad said:

I see lots of people on various groups that I'm on saying about waking everyone up. This is important and as good humans beings it is almost our duty but if you are soley dependent on waking enough people up and it being the answer to all the problems ahead then  I can't help but feel that you are putting all your eggs in one basket. Being aware of the possibilty of NOT enough people waking up is just as important. Some people say "You can't focus on that because what you visualize becomes your reality". The trouble with that is if you are not prepared with the circumstances of the majority not waking up then if it becomes a reality it will hit you twice as hard.

 

How many people on here would be prepared to...

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

 

If you are not able to come to terms with the above then the searching must come from within. If you are preaching to others about waking up without facing all of he above then you are living in fear or even worse denial. I have come to see that I'm struggling with a couple from above. I know some here have already ticked most above and fair play to you. Number 4 is the big one though and if you have not come to terms with that one then you are owned/controllable  and very much in the matrix. This is even harder if you are not religous to achieve and it's a journey I have only just started.

Spiritual War all the way.

Well 'we' don't ever actually die, so it isn't that scary. Our souls don't die, what would be worse than leaving this matrix would be being trapped here forever, merged with AI or uploaded to the cloud or whatever the fuck it is they want to do. 

[Brad the lad]

8 hours ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

Just about to go to bed, so will not be able to respond to any messages in the meantime, but feel free to comment on what I have to say (for it will spark strong reactions from some, no doubt)... This whole idea of yours (and Fluke's, who I spoke with before) is nonsense, in my opinion. It is, quite frankly, ridiculous. These may seem like strong words, but I'm afraid they're necessary. Let's look at the four steps and analyse them. But before we do, let's all agree on something.

 

What is playing out before us, on a global scale...is all part of the plan. All of it. I'm not God. I'm not some almighty, all-knowing being. I don't know how each piece of the puzzle fits. In my time I've gone from believing that COVID is real but being overhyped and used to scare us, to agreeing completely with Mr. Icke in thinking that there is no new, unique Coronavirus at all (it would explain a few things, while also adding some more questions, and thus that's why I flip flop between the two). I sometimes think that George Floyd's death was planned. Then I think they're just taking advantage of an extraordinary slice of luck that's come their way (a psychopathic cop), and sometimes I wonder if the WHOLE thing was staged, and that Floyd is still alive or was killed afterwards. But all that matters is that we all agree on one thing... The large majority of humanity are being successfully conned. We're moving towards the endgame now. We only have pieces of the puzzle, but even so, we have a good idea what the picture will look like when it's completed. We may not know how to fit the pieces together, but we still know that the ending (if they get their way) results in a truly horrifying picture, and our world will be changed forever... Now let's tackle those four points.

 

1. Give up ALL possessions.

To do this indicates to cut and run from, essentially, pieces of yourself. True, they are meaningless in the large scheme of things, but they are things that bring me hope and enjoyment. Why should I abandon them. What is the point?... Which moves us onto point number two.

 

2. Give up your job/trade?

Again, to do this, indicates a desire to flee. To flee for what? Your lives? Well, you're already destroying your lives by running out on your job, possessions, and, let's face it, family members as well (you don't mention family, but my family wouldn't be going with me if I did this, so I'd be leaving them behind as well). Again, what is the point?... Onto point number three!

 

3. Turn your back on the medical system you know?

Again, I ask, what is the point? I don't fully trust our NHS (especially not at the moment), but why, if we're to run away from such things, are we fleeing from the health service? Sure, in some form they're part of this, but I refuse to believe that every single doctor and nurse is in on the scam. It just isn't possible. I'd be far more likely to run from the police (who are corrupt through and through in the US and Britain, in my opinion) than I would from the health service.

 

4. Be at peace with death.

I am. On this, we agree. To fully live. we must not live in fear of death. I faced death many years back now (at least it feels like it was many years ago). He isn't so bad... When my time comes, I shall embrace him like an old friend. But in the meantime, I'm going to fight.

 

Which brings me to the core point of my message... We MUST fight. Is it foolish? I don't know, maybe. Is it pointless? I don't know, maybe... But trust me, there's no alternative. I know it, David Icke knows it (and that's why, whether you think it's pointless or not, he urged us to share his messages with EVERYONE we know), and deep down, so do you. You see, you can give up all those things and try and run. But where are you running to? The world's a small place these days, and it's only going to get smaller and smaller. In the end, they will come for you, and whatever band of rebels are with you, they'll bring you to heel, because you'll have no one to stand and fight with you.

 

So yes, you could try and strike out and enjoy some final months of true freedom, before the net closes in...or you could stand and fight. Stand and fight with me and everyone else who still believes in the force of good! It embodies itself in so many different ways, in hidden ways that sometimes must be searched for in the heart, not with the eyes. From Mr. Icke himself (his awakening a gift from the force of good itself) to those around us who are slowly but surely, finding pieces of the puzzle. We may not know how to put all the pieces together, but they don't even know how to make a start. It's our job, our duty (I feel that strongly about it, yes) to help them to realise what those pieces mean, and how some of them fit together. Of course the average, "normal" person will not understand, and some of them never will... But here's the thing...some of them will get it. You may have tried and failed, but you may have just been pushing for success too soon. Quite recently (around two weeks back), I spoke with a black American friend of mine about COVID-19 and how it was, one way or another, a scam. I spoke of the cult/cabal that runs this world behind the scenes, but I also touched on how they keep the world divided through feeding the divisions and creating hate within us... And now, thanks to the seed of truth I planted, she's seeing the George Floyd situation for what it is. Yes, she's angry, and she supports BLM (and so do I, to a point, I just believe they're being manipulated by evil forces, just like their opponents), but she's now in full agreement with me in regards to COVID-19, and is questioning the narrative and looting and rioting. She's questioning all of it and is going through the early stages of awakening...

 

To sum up. Yes, it may seem like a mammoth task, but it's really not. Not when you realise that when you wake someone up, they themselves have the potential to wake someone else up. And that's how hope, true hope, is born.

 

Finally, to quote my favourite line from Cloud Atlas (brilliant book and a fantastic film adaption to boot).

 

"And for what? For what? No matter what you do it will never amount to anything but a single drop in a limitless ocean!"

 

"What is an ocean...but a multitude of drops."

 

 

The problem with your post is you are talking as if Im suggesting running now and I'm not. I'm nort bending over and asking for it softly.

I've been awake for around 20 years and trying to wake people daily in my job from all walks of life as well. I'm not saying I'm giving up and it is the  the complete opposite in fact. What I'm saying is that if you are not prepared to face 1, 2, 3 and 4 then you are lying to yourself. I say this  because if the day comes (which is a probability after all) of them forcing these to happen and you are not prepared to walk away then you will have to be in the system and that includes the jab. This is NOT a negative post and I'm not trying to bring anyone down either so if it was read like that then it has not been my intention.

 

Standing like a militant now is the easy bit. It goes a bit deeper for me though.

[AndyJ]

Everyone has to be responsible for their own consciousness at the end of the day. People have to wake up of their own volition, it's always a personal experience. Some people are destined to awake, others are destined to stay asleep. I think a key aspect as to who awakens or not is whether or not a person can clear themselves of past trauma as that ingrained fear or anxiety which gets imprinted on us by society is a big block to not only critical thinking but living in a more present state of being.  

[rideforever]

10 hours ago, Brad the lad said:

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

These things, although they are traditional ideas, are not waking up ... they are external to you.
The path is through a narrow gate, it is not that easy I'm afraid.

Making big bold outward demonstrations of shaving your hair, throwing your clothes away, or living in poverty ... and making sure everyone sees it is I am afraid not the same as "waking up".

Human beings love to make a big song and dance so everyone sees them.

 

Prayer, merging with God and so on .... well if you let go of the outside things, fully, and as they say go into your closet and shut the door ... that is the way to pray.  Because inside there only God can see you.  Then you must enter into God ... not God the fan club, not God a big idea .... but the reality of what is there.  Nobody will know, nobody will give you a prize, only you will know.

 

One important thing is to honour your pain anger and other things inside you ... that people reject.  Sit quietly and when angry say I am angry and feel it ... but not lost in it.  So on with all your pains.  Do not try to escape yourself.  Do not try to escape, instead ... in-scape.  Find the answer by going inside.
Be competent in daily life.
All this is trusting God.  Cutting down everything God put here is not trusting God ... 

And for sure, wake yourself up ... it is hard enough.
If you can do that think about others.
Best move quickly with all these things as life is painful enough without taking a long time.
 

[Fluke]

9 hours ago, jonesthepost said:

 

I tend to agree with you there; and with some, even if they have suspicions of what is really going on, they’ll keep quiet so they ‘fit in’ with the rest of the ‘normies’.

 

Imo, the worst ones are those who agree with whoever they happen to be around at the time; and they’ll stab you/them in the back; a lot of humans are so duplicitous; I avoid most as much as I can.

 

Again, imo, I think a lot of humans have been ‘taken over’ by archons/aliens/ or whatever; especially these days.

They seem to be ‘vacant’, and a lot have psychopathic tendencies; no warmth

 

So no, I’m not going round waking anyone up; I’ll make remarks that refute any bs, and that’s about it.

Yes and I do think it is an aspect of human nature to go with the herd or maybe we have been primed that way. My nature has always been to go against the grain so I am a bit like icke in the fact that I have stopped caring what people think of me. I had thatstsge years ago and it is freeing. However I don't want to make life harder for myself for the sake of it, not out of fear, but to protect myself from being drained. 

 

I have been on a mission to remove the toxic individuals out of my life. So far I have no friends apart from 1 distant friend but I am happy. Normies are around me and I don't hate them they are nice people but they drain me. Not one original thought.

 

It's really hard and this is why this sort of thing pisses people like us off. We open our hearts or try to reason with people or take a difference stance, and we are met with blank stares, granting and in my case sometimes anger i.e cognitive dissonance. It's not worth it everytime I try and engage in a convo in the hope that I am talking to a rational human being I instantly regret it and remember why I never bothered. The worst ones I've had was people actually ASK what I think is happening and I will innocently be like "yes well I'm no expert but this lockdown seems counterproductive and Draconian bla bla" and then I am shouted down and treated like I have just come in and killed their pet dog.

 

I feel sorry for a lot of them genuinely not to put myself above them because a lot are genuinely nice, but seeing a fight nearly start yesterday because someone got too close to a young man in his twenties drilled home how deep the programming goes. I think also it's a simple fact that people's IQs are genuinely free falling I've noticed people acting dumber and dumber the last 10 years, this coupled with technology addiction, family dynamics being torn apart through the decades, and a sick consumerist society and many other things doesn't help. People on the whole are not very bright. And the ones that are educated seem to have a perception of a pea. The rest have degrees that aren't degrees. "White studies" "gender studies". Another thing I've observed is men are treated like dirt in England. I think we all know now that feminism is nothing to do with "equal rights". 

 

I feel like number 2 could be in the offing for me simply because if the world stays at it is, or get worse I don't know if I want to or can be a part of it. So I won't deny these things keep me awake some nights. 

 

Sorry for the rant. 

Edited June 4, 2020 by Fluke

[rideforever]

2 minutes ago, Fluke said:

It's not worth it everytime I try and engage in a convo in the hope that I am talking to a rational human being

 

Yeah well that's the big frustration of the world isn't it.

It's a bit of a mess, but maybe it's worth thinking about a bit.

Sometimes like with young people they say something (ridiculous) but really want you to agree ... they really want you to like them.  That's what it's about.  And if you fight with them then they feel bad because you didn't like them.

Unfortunately many people are not taught how to think well ... and so they have this equipment (thinking) that they try to use and it all comes out a bit of a mess, and then people don't like it ... and they feel that nobody likes them when they use their equipment.  And then they go into self-lockdown to protect themselves from the world.

Same with our feeling equipment ... we feel terrible, angry, lusty ... or whatever - and nobody helps you.   What you supposed to do with it?
Many people shame you for feeling the way you do.
Others encourage you to be more lusty.
And many people tell you to cut off your genitals.
How's that gonna work ?
Confusing is not the word.
But at the same time life is going by and you want to be on the train, so you try to jump in - with whatever compromises you make.

Mess.

That's really how I see things these days ... we are monkeys with additional equipment, we all desperately want to use that big equipment but who will help us to learn how ... and how can that higher equipment be merged with the inner monkey that is at the base.
You see many "Scientists" are using their intellectual mind at maximum speed ... but it is decoupled from the inner being, from the original subconscious substrata .... so it becomes like a high velocity cloud up in the sky that talks and thinks and makes bombs ... but no longer feels the soul - it becomes a soulless thinking machine, and not a person.

A real person, a finished person, has the monkey-subconscious underneath and then on top of that it has fully working higher intellect and higher feelings ... all working and integrated.
And this is a big job and in general right now ... instead of that you have a big mess.
That's our problem as a species.

And of course when you are a big mess, so darkness comes to prey on you.
 

[motleyhoo]

8 hours ago, alexa said:

 I would personally never do this as a few years back the NHS saved my life as I had to have an emergency heart operation. I was half dead when they helicoptered me for the op.

 

There's 2 medical systems.  There's the one who are mechanics and fix mechanical problems, like broken bones, heart conditions, aneurysms, etc.

 

Then there's the one selling cures for chronic disease caused by poor life hygiene.  This is the one stealing trillions from the world's coffers.

 

[Seeker]

[jonesthepost]

6 hours ago, Fluke said:

Yes and I do think it is an aspect of human nature to go with the herd or maybe we have been primed that way. My nature has always been to go against the grain so I am a bit like icke in the fact that I have stopped caring what people think of me. I had thatstsge years ago and it is freeing. However I don't want to make life harder for myself for the sake of it, not out of fear, but to protect myself from being drained. 

 

I have been on a mission to remove the toxic individuals out of my life. So far I have no friends apart from 1 distant friend but I am happy. Normies are around me and I don't hate them they are nice people but they drain me. Not one original thought.

 

It's really hard and this is why this sort of thing pisses people like us off. We open our hearts or try to reason with people or take a difference stance, and we are met with blank stares, granting and in my case sometimes anger i.e cognitive dissonance. It's not worth it everytime I try and engage in a convo in the hope that I am talking to a rational human being I instantly regret it and remember why I never bothered. The worst ones I've had was people actually ASK what I think is happening and I will innocently be like "yes well I'm no expert but this lockdown seems counterproductive and Draconian bla bla" and then I am shouted down and treated like I have just come in and killed their pet dog.

 

I feel sorry for a lot of them genuinely not to put myself above them because a lot are genuinely nice, but seeing a fight nearly start yesterday because someone got too close to a young man in his twenties drilled home how deep the programming goes. I think also it's a simple fact that people's IQs are genuinely free falling I've noticed people acting dumber and dumber the last 10 years, this coupled with technology addiction, family dynamics being torn apart through the decades, and a sick consumerist society and many other things doesn't help. People on the whole are not very bright. And the ones that are educated seem to have a perception of a pea. The rest have degrees that aren't degrees. "White studies" "gender studies". Another thing I've observed is men are treated like dirt in England. I think we all know now that feminism is nothing to do with "equal rights". 

 

I feel like number 2 could be in the offing for me simply because if the world stays at it is, or get worse I don't know if I want to or can be a part of it. So I won't deny these things keep me awake some nights. 

 

Sorry for the rant. 

 

I agree with everything you’ve said here Fluke; it’s a strange place to be imo.

 

Dont apologise for sharing your thoughts; they’ve as much value as anyone else’s; and people with similar views know they’re not alone

[THESTRONG-THEVALIANT]

It's hard to recommend people in the cities that they should consider being self-sufficient with farming - at least someone in each family should be responsible for this.

 

 

[Messenger]

8 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

 

There's 2 medical systems.  There's the one who are mechanics and fix mechanical problems, like broken bones, heart conditions, aneurysms, etc.

 

Then there's the one selling cures for chronic disease caused by poor life hygiene.  This is the one stealing trillions from the world's coffers.

 

Very true Motley.

I should have clarified that in my rant against the medical system, that I do believe there are good people working within it. The people who rehabilitate those who have been in a car wreck, or burn victims, or cast broken bones, etc.

[awake]

The world will always be at odds, but we must make some kind of effort to make it better for everyone instead of being just slaves to the hierarchy which thinks it knows best. Then nobody can say we didn't try. Order and hierarchy is just an illusion... it is chaos in itself. Labels, institutions, laws, regulations, cultures... whatever they create are symptoms of the disease and will continue to do so. True freedom is life without money or possessions of crap we don't need whilst raping the planet of precious resources for our own slavery

 

As much as i'd like to dream of the humble life without this shit, it won't come by free will. So yeah, fuck it, let this motherfucker burn as we speak out. The majority will get what is coming to them for being dumbarses... natural consequences will guarantee it

[peter]

Personally , waking people up to me is irrelevant, I am willing to debate people from the perspective of my point of view ,weather that makes a difference to their attitude or not is really not my concern ,so quite frankly I couldn't give a shit .

If changing people's perception of reality  is your sole purpose because you are correct ( awake) and everyone else with opposing views is wrong (asleep)  ,then I would put it to you that you are not as awake as you think you are , due to the fact that you are displaying the all the symptoms of a classic narcissistic personality . 

 

 

How many people on here would be prepared to...

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

I find these questions rather irrelevant and a bit silly ,I may be wrong but to me they sound rather altruistic with a large smattering of virtue signaling

1  how is giving up all your possessions going to help the present situation

no home ,you live on the streets no car you cant go anywhere and the only gadget I have is an old mobile phone that stays home when I go out because I don't want anyone to bother me

and you haven't let me know who I'm supposed to give all my possessions to

2 give up the trade , I've been a qualified sparkie and believe the last thing I want to see is a pair of pliers and 2.5 flat twin and earth double insulated  cable

3 when I go to the quack I argue with him and get what I want not what he wants to give me

4 The older I get to me the less it matters

I'm usually wrong ,just my thoughts

[Messenger]

16 minutes ago, peter said:

Personally , waking people up to me is irrelevant, I am willing to debate people from the perspective of my point of view ,weather that makes a difference to their attitude or not is really not my concern ,so quite frankly I couldn't give a shit .

If changing people's perception of reality  is your sole purpose because you are correct ( awake) and everyone else with opposing views is wrong (asleep)  ,then I would put it to you that you are not as awake as you think you are , due to the fact that you are displaying the all the symptoms of a classic narcissistic personality . 

 

 

How many people on here would be prepared to...

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

I find these questions rather irrelevant and a bit silly ,I may be wrong but to me they sound rather altruistic with a large smattering of virtue signaling

1  how is giving up all your possessions going to help the present situation

no home ,you live on the streets no car you cant go anywhere and the only gadget I have is an old mobile phone that stays home when I go out because I don't want anyone to bother me

and you haven't let me know who I'm supposed to give all my possessions to

2 give up the trade , I've been a qualified sparkie and believe the last thing I want to see is a pair of pliers and 2.5 flat twin and earth double insulated  cable

3 when I go to the quack I argue with him and get what I want not what he wants to give me

4 The older I get to me the less it matters

I'm usually wrong ,just my thoughts

Great thoughts Peter.
 

If you have a nice welder I'll take it. 

[peter]

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

Great thoughts Peter.
 

If you have a nice welder I'll take it. 

I do have one ,but it's not nice , I'm for ever having to replace the main power transistor on the circuit board that controls the wire feed I always have a couple spare

[Brad the lad]

7 hours ago, peter said:

Personally , waking people up to me is irrelevant, I am willing to debate people from the perspective of my point of view ,weather that makes a difference to their attitude or not is really not my concern ,so quite frankly I couldn't give a shit .

If changing people's perception of reality  is your sole purpose because you are correct ( awake) and everyone else with opposing views is wrong (asleep)  ,then I would put it to you that you are not as awake as you think you are , due to the fact that you are displaying the all the symptoms of a classic narcissistic personality . 

 

 

How many people on here would be prepared to...

 

1)Give up all possessions including the home, car, gadgets etc.

2)Give up the job/trade they hold and have worked in all their life.

3)Turn their back on the medical system they know.

4)Be at peace with death (not willing it on but no over welming fear of it).

 

I find these questions rather irrelevant and a bit silly ,I may be wrong but to me they sound rather altruistic with a large smattering of virtue signaling

1  how is giving up all your possessions going to help the present situation

no home ,you live on the streets no car you cant go anywhere and the only gadget I have is an old mobile phone that stays home when I go out because I don't want anyone to bother me

and you haven't let me know who I'm supposed to give all my possessions to

2 give up the trade , I've been a qualified sparkie and believe the last thing I want to see is a pair of pliers and 2.5 flat twin and earth double insulated  cable

3 when I go to the quack I argue with him and get what I want not what he wants to give me

4 The older I get to me the less it matters

I'm usually wrong ,just my thoughts

 

 Again taken out of context. I'm not saying bend over and take it and give it all up now. I'm saying are you prepared to for the cause if that's what it takes. If they go all the way which is quite possible then you may have no choice because they will force 1, 2 and 3on you anyway!

Are you prepared to give it all up for the vaccine?  Saying it's not a probability is just denial.

 

I'm not saying give up trying and just take it. What I'm suggesting is that this could get pushed all the way and being a sparkie or gas engineer (like me)  is something you used to do unless you take the jab.

[chocomel]

9 hours ago, awake said:

The world will always be at odds, but we must make some kind of effort to make it better for everyone instead of being just slaves to the hierarchy which thinks it knows best. Then nobody can say we didn't try. Order and hierarchy is just an illusion... it is chaos in itself. Labels, institutions, laws, regulations, cultures... whatever they create are symptoms of the disease and will continue to do so. True freedom is life without money or possessions of crap we don't need whilst raping the planet of precious resources for our own slavery

 

As much as i'd like to dream of the humble life without this shit, it won't come by free will. So yeah, fuck it, let this motherfucker burn as we speak out. The majority will get what is coming to them for being dumbarses... natural consequences will guarantee it

 

Run out of likes.

 

Also don't forget, when you vibrate your truth vibration, people will feel that vibration that's coming out of you.

Much like when you sit near an enlightened person or non-physical being, you'd feel love or that majestic vibration without having a conversation.

Never underestimate non-verbal communication which is like 65%!