When is enough, enough?

[TruthSeeker27]

30 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

I kinda do feel a bit sorry for Boris Johnson- he seems out of his depth. He sure isn't tough as Winston Churchill was- and hasn't the experience level that Winston has when he became prime minister.

 

And yes Boris, probably is reading from sort of script. Winston Churchill wrote all his own speeches- worked on them for hours then memorised them and delivered them without reading off a piece of paper!

 

I had  a long chat with my mother about all this tonight. She's pretty clued in. She is disgusted at these rioters and what they did to Winston Churchill's statue, and the graves of war veterans and burning out flag. She like myself, didn't care they threw the slave trader's statue in the river in Bristol.

 

Winston Churchill, like most humans had his good points and bad points but I don't think it's true to say he didn't care at all about poorer people. Like many people from wealthy backgrounds who never experienced poverty, they don't know what it's like but to give him credit he really did give Brits hope. He was determined to win the war, never ever let the Nazis win and cared about his country. So yes, he would never have let these idiots we have today running amok and throwing bicycles at police officers.

 

That's the difference between him and Boris- Boris is just not a strong leader, and dithers.

 

Winston had been to Germany in the 1930s and had seen what the Germans were up to and warned the British politicians what was on the cards, but they didn't pay much attention to him.

 

The prime minister   at the time was even thinking about doing a deal with Germany, but Winston was having none of that!

 

They were very difficult times and we needed someone who was not afraid to stand against Hitler, who reportedly was afraid of Winston Churchill. Could you imagine Hitler being sacred of Boris Johnson?  No!

 

I had bought some old stuff off a friend off Instagram ( including old magazines) and it arrived yesterday. One of them is Picture Post from 1940- and all about the war and has an article about Winston it! Very interesting magazine to have in my collection.

 

 

 

That sounds really cool. I'm glad your mother is clued in as to what's happening. My mother is as well to a certain degree. We also didn't care about Colston's statue getting thrown into the water. But there's a line that shouldn't be crossed, and getting rid of Churchill and Nelson's statues is a step WAY too far.

 

I know that Chamberlain (I think that was the PM at the time) wanted to do a deal with Germany and Churchill disagreed of course when he got in power. Without a doubt, Winston was a fantastic war time PM. My thoughts on him mostly are influenced by my grandmother and her father (my great grandfather who I never knew). We come from a working class background, and my great granddad appreciated Churchill's leadership in the war, but outside of war he said that he never could have voted for him because Churchill was just too disconnected from working class voters, and I think that's why Churchill's second term as Prime Minister isn't as fondly remembered.

Edited June 12, 2020 by TruthSeeker27

[itsnotallrightjack]

1 hour ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

 

That sounds really cool. I'm glad your mother is clued in as to what's happening. My mother is as well to a certain degree. We also didn't care about Colston's statue getting thrown into the water. But there's a line that shouldn't be crossed, and getting rid of Churchill and Nelson's statues is a step WAY too far.

 

I know that Chamberlain (I think that was the PM at the time) wanted to do a deal with Germany and Churchill disagreed of course when he got in power. Without a doubt, Winston was a fantastic war time PM. My thoughts on him mostly are influenced by my grandmother and her father (my great grandfather who I never knew). We come from a working class background, and my great granddad appreciated Churchill's leadership in the war, but outside of war he said that he never could have voted for him because Churchill was just too disconnected from working class voters, and I think that's why Churchill's second term as Prime Minister isn't as fondly remembered.

 

Yes, some of the older generation are more with it than today's youngsters. Thinking about Colonel Tom Moore,  a world war 2  veteran aged 100 who in April raised millions for the NHS, what must he be thinking of this insult to Winston Churchill and the war memorials and graves?!

 

These louts also insult him, as he fought for our freedoms and Winston Churchill most likely gave him some hope that the war would be won.

 

Yes it was Chamberlain who was thinking about doing a deal with Germany.

 

Boris needs to give the plod the water canons and clear the louts off the streets.

 

I did read an hour ago that Saturday's protests by BLM have been cancelled because they heard Tommy Robinson and his footie mates are on their way to London to protect the monuments lol.

 

And they've put up shields around Winston Churchill's statue! So that is a public statement that he is not to disrespected again.

 

 

[TruthSeeker27]

14 minutes ago, itsnotallrightjack said:

 

Yes, some of the older generation are more with it than today's youngsters. Thinking about Colonel Tom Moore,  a world war 2  veteran aged 100 who in April raised millions for the NHS, what must he be thinking of this insult to Winston Churchill and the war memorials and graves?!

 

These louts also insult him, as he fought for our freedoms and Winston Churchill most likely gave him some hope that the war would be won.

 

Yes it was Chamberlain who was thinking about doing a deal with Germany.

 

Boris needs to give the plod the water canons and clear the louts off the streets.

 

I did read an hour ago that Saturday's protests by BLM have been cancelled because they heard Tommy Robinson and his footie mates are on their way to London to protect the monuments lol.

 

And they've put up shields around Winston Churchill's statue! So that is a public statement that he is not to disrespected again.

 

 

 

I'm really worried about the things I'm hearing regarding far right groups and far left groups heading to London tomorrow. I don't support far right or far left (in many ways, I don't support any form of political movement as I feel they're all manipulated). David is right 100% in what he says. The two sides are being played off against each other. I only hope what you say is true and the BLM protests are muted and that Antifa (Soros' lot) stay away, or we could see some terrible scenes tomorrow and Sunday.

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Its pure Psychological warfare, everyones being played against each other, its sick! Everyone needs to unite on a common front.