When is enough, enough?

[2020member]

I, like many on here, discovered the essence of David's work many years before the biggest overhaul to this planet we've ever seen since WWII. 

 

Don't get me wrong the walls have been closing in for a long time, and this way of life has been at odds with my ethical and moral compass more and more. But... this way of life up until late, has been just about bearable and i've managed to co-exist with the state forcing the will of the few onto the many. 

 

Mandatory vaccines, microchips, contact tracing, biometric passports, 5G et al. Is where I will personally draw the line and lay down everything to stop this becoming my new reality. And when I mean lay down everything, I mean everything.

 

If family ties have to be cut, marriages have to be broken and fleeing the city to live off-grid with like-minded people is the only option to preserve a life that does not go against everything I have ever believed in - then so be it. 

 

As long as you don't think that some group like Q-Anon are doing all the graft behind the scenes on our behalf. Then i'm afraid these are the tough choices many thousands of people will have to be making in the coming years, or maybe even months. 

 

I'm wondering if others on the forum are of the same opinion who have managed to grin and bear it up until now. People such as myself, who have managed to coexist and work within the system even though they know the truth. I think the charade is going to come to an end soon and those who relentlessly duck and dive the vaccine (and the system in general) will have no place to hide and will eventually become social outcasts. 

 

The only fall back is a new system and way of life for people like us as we reach this fork in the road...

 

[Janet W]

[rideforever]

Identifying a problem is not the same as identifying a workable solution and is not the same as implementing a workable solution.

[TruthSeeker27]

I'm in the unique position of "enough being enough" happening at the same moment as my awakening, or soon after. I had always had my doubts about this world, and just knew that forces existed beyond my comprehension. One way or another, I knew that the bloke or woman in Number 10 Downing Street wasn't running my country. I always knew that forces existed beyond that, pulling the strings on a global level. But I never gave it much thought. I am essentially your archetype loner. I love my family, but enjoy being alone and indeed, spend the majority of my time alone, isolated from the potential madness of the world, choosing instead to focus on my own little world, and how I can do my bit to help others in it, those who I see or interact with on a daily basis... But now everything has changed.

 

Yes, this plandemic has forced me to sit up and take full attention of what's happening. But it's so awful because yes, it is like a tidal wave that's suddenly arrived before me. It had always been a distant speck on the horizon. But while you and clearly many others on this forum had noticed it creeping closer and closer, for me it went from being in the distance to being literally upon me, right on my doorstep. The world has seemingly gone mad... But now I know it was crooked to begin with. Filled with dark forces and so many fools willing to do whatever the state tells them to do.

 

Enough is enough for me already. The week that changed everything for me was the week between the 17th of March to the 24th. Those days were among the most significant in my life. That's when the awakening happened and now it's just about planning ahead. It's getting to the point where I feel lost. I am determined not to slink away. I do not blame those who choose to flee from society. I actually envy you... But I feel it would be pointless. In time, "they" (you know who they are) will come for you. The powers that be will not let people break away unless they want them to. I believe the only hope we have now is fighting back from within and that's what I'm trying to do on a daily basis. Trying my hardest to wake other people up and I am having some success. If you're not doing so already, I do highly suggest that everyone who reads this tries to wake other people up. It may seem pointless and you may get mocked. Have patience. They don't get it. But they are more willing to listen now because they know that something is rotten somewhere. This whole global event has changed everything, for better and for worse. 

 

I honestly believe that these summer months will be our last of freedom (or at least, a certain, pathetic form of it), and our last chance to wake other people up. We can't waste this chance. We have to fight back... And yeah, it may end badly, but...to quote Thorin Oakenshield (from The Hobbit)..."If this is to end in fire...then we will all burn together!"

Edited May 27, 2020 by TruthSeeker27

[Tinfoil Hat]

10 minutes ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

I'm in the unique position of "enough being enough" happening at the same moment as my awakening, or soon after. I had always had my doubts about this world, and just knew that forces existed beyond my comprehension. One way or another, I knew that the bloke or woman in Number 10 Downing Street wasn't running my country. I always knew that forces existed beyond that, pulling the strings on a global level. But I never gave it much thought. I am essentially your archetype loner. I love my family, but enjoy being alone and indeed, spend the majority of my time alone, isolated from the potential madness of the world, choosing instead to focus on my own little world, and how I can do my bit to help others in it, those who I see or interact with on a daily basis... But now everything has changed.

 

Yes, this plandemic has forced me to sit up and take full attention of what's happening. But it's so awful because yes, it is like a tidal wave that's suddenly arrived before me. It had always been a distant speck on the horizon. But while you and clearly many others on this forum had noticed it creeping closer and closer, for me it went from being in the distance to being literally upon me, right on my doorstep. The world has seemingly gone mad... But now I know it was crooked to begin with. Filled with dark forces and so many fools willing to do whatever the state tells them to do.

 

Enough is enough for me already. The week that changed everything for me was the week between the 17th of March to the 24th. Those days were among the most significant in my life. That's when the awakening happened and now it's just about planning ahead. It's getting to the point where I feel lost. I am determined not to slink away. I do not blame those who choose to flee from society. I actually envy you... But I feel it would be pointless. In time, "they" (you know who they are) will come for you. The powers that be will not let people break away unless they want them to. I believe the only hope we have now is fighting back from within and that's what I'm trying to do on a daily basis. Trying my hardest to wake other people up and I am having some success. If you're not doing so already, I do highly suggest that everyone who reads this tries to wake other people up. It may seem pointless and you may get mocked. Have patience. They don't get it. But they are more willing to listen now because they know that something is rotten somewhere. This whole global event has changed everything, for better and for worse. 

 

I honestly believe that these summer months will be our last of freedom (or at least, a certain, pathetic form of it), and our last chance to wake other people up. We can't waste this chance. We have to fight back... And yeah, it may end badly, but...to quote Thorin Oakenshield (from The Hobbit)..."If this is to end in fire...then we will all burn together!"

 

I'm of the same mind, TruthSeeker27.

 

 

[Edgecrusher]

2 hours ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

I honestly believe that these summer months will be our last of freedom (or at least, a certain, pathetic form of it), and our last chance to wake other people up. We can't waste this chance. We have to fight back... And yeah, it may end badly, but...to quote Thorin Oakenshield (from The Hobbit)..."If this is to end in fire...then we will all burn together!"

 

I know exactly what you mean.

 

I've always felt "awake" or whatever you wanna' call it. My mum is a Jehovah's witness, and I was brought up being told about "armageddon" from as long as I can remember (I'm not a Jehovahs Witness, organised religion is not for me) but some of it sticks with you, especially Revelations haha I'm 47 now btw.

 

My brother always told me politicians were puppets and I've always looked at how the world worked and felt it just doesn't add up. Had an overall interest in war from Napoleonic times too and I think reading about war can teach you a lot about what really goes on and why...

 

Since 9/11 and the mess caused in the Middle East, the mass migration, the weird LGBT narrative being pushed on MSM, climate change etc, I've just felt, we're heading towards "something" but it was the seemingly overnight switch with the BBC "it's the Russians" narrative after the Sergei and Yulia Skripal poisoning that I thought, we're heading to something sooner than I thought. I have also looked at the BBC for quite a long time and felt that much of the main news was actually seriously fake/staged.

 

I've never voted either, as never felt it would make any difference. When you step back and look it's obvious things get taken in a direction regardless of who's in power. Nothing I do stops me paying taxes or not being part of the system but I was always proud I never put my tick in the box of the wrong person just because there wasn't much of a choice...

 

I've had an eye on Mr Icke since the Wogan thing, and have always shown an interest on and off but haven't read all his books. When I have read them they just seem to confirm what I've always "felt" anyway, you're sort of busy trying to enjoy the status quo as it is, getting on with your job/life otherwise what's the point - I wonder how David Icke has done it all this time. I hope with all my heart that he hasn't wasted his time.

 

I don't feel this has meant to have happened just yet but think Trump being in Office, us coming out of the EU, and what obviously seems like a massive paedophile ring about this close to being exposed any minute has bought it all forward a bit but not by much - with 2030 always being thrown around for the NWO and 2050 for it being all done.

 

I haven't seen one alternative media person say this hasn't NOT caught them out either, so for us I think it's an even bigger shock. I've seen many say we're grieving as we have lost out lives, and we know it. Ignorance is bliss...

 

I feel sick when I think about it and have up and down days. Sometimes I think they've gone too far too quickly and that too many people will wake up and the lot is going to come crashing down around them... I do see sense people are asking more and more questions, and also walking around (in the UK) people seem to me to not really be that bothered, and I think if they start trying to force mask wearing they're going to say what for, and the school thing is going to be a massive part of this.

 

Other times I think I just haven't got the energy for the fight, and feel like lying down and hoping I don't wake up as I feel, as has been said, the walls are closing in on me, and I don't want part of it. I don't want to be separated from my partner, that's the thing that worries me but I will be saying no regardless of whatever they say they want to do.

 

I also am not very good at having conversations about this without getting so fucking annoyed with people, so I don't come across well. If I was more articulate and had thicker skin, I would have actually walked around my town hading stuff out. Sometimes I talk myself out of things as when I see the sheep, and they are the majority, I just think no wonder "they" want to depopulate the planet... 

 

Talking on Twitter and a forum isn't really achieving much. I don't want to say what I do think people should be doing as it won't look good on the Forum.

[Fluke]

Well I feel you OP and i think many others here will echo those same fears. I am of a different mindset as of late which has proven not to be all to popular. But it works for the most part for me and i would go as far as saying it is the only thing that works.

 

The real problem with a significant dare i say the majority of people who are awake to these things is they have a mindset where they need to wake others up. As long as you have that mindset you are then almost by default waiting for an outcome. For instance it could be a social media post, a conversation, a video if you put content or ideas out there and are waiting for others to see it, (truther stuff) thus you are then usually waiting for an outcome (most people.) It wont come with most people. In fact you will just be unliked. 

 

So while i share your anxiety for the world that awaits I am still opitimistic to a certain extent. You mentioned forced vaccinations but we still don't know if that is going to go ahead. What percentage do you think will reject it? Lets say 10% reject it do you think the elite will care if the majority gets it? My concern all along is that they will use social pressures to shame those that don't conform, we have seen examples of this during the lockdown. 

 

So when we try to live as best as we can, talk to like minded people that is enough. As soon as people get over the fact that salvation is not coming, and that no speaker, guru, is leading us, we may develop within ourselves and surround ourselves with those we love. 

 

This lockdown has given us the biggest red pill will ever have. We now know who we cannot trust in our lives. Your neighbours, the ones who make condesending remarks at you at a supermarket for not "social distancing". Your hysterical family members. The mad neighbours clapping for "the heroes". But most of all we cannot trust the journalists, the mainstream media who pretty much have silenced any descenting voice against this lockdown. The civil servents. You now know the names of thw civil servents who have been promoting this lockdown. You now know which ones in your community you cannot trust. And the cowardly citizens of this country who have obeyed and trusted whatever the mainstream media tell them. The phrase should not have been stay home stay lives. It should have been stay home destroy jobs.

 

Learn from it, but don't them take your happiness, creativity, and love. And when i stopped worrying about the masses waking up those things magnified inside of myself. More so, i didn't want them to wake up. Because most people... they've revealed themselves during this lockdown and well its not great is it.?

 

I echo your thoughts about participating in a system where you KNOW its morally corrupt. But don't cut your nose off to spite your face. 

Edited May 27, 2020 by Fluke

[Fluke]

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"If family ties have to be cut, marriages have to be broken and fleeing the city to live off-grid with like-minded people is the only option to preserve a life that does not go against everything I have ever believed in - then so be it. "

 

I think this time is perfect for learning about our relationships too. I mean you find out who you can and cannot rely on, right? 

Edited May 27, 2020 by Fluke

[Finder]

Waking up for someone who is slightly asleep is normally gentle, because a soft touch or a bit louder than normal call is sufficient. For the one who is deeply asleep, waking up is never gentle but always is a harsh experience. Because that's what is required to wake them from a very deep sleep.

 

@2020member  Never use the half awakened awareness that occurred right after sudden and harsh awakening to project or predict the nature of the reality of the awake, the reality that is beyond and outside the sleep paralysis...

Edited May 27, 2020 by Finder

[TruthSeeker27]

57 minutes ago, Edgecrusher said:

 

I know exactly what you mean.

 

I've always felt "awake" or whatever you wanna' call it. My mum is a Jehovah's witness, and I was brought up being told about "armageddon" from as long as I can remember (I'm not a Jehovahs Witness, organised religion is not for me) but some of it sticks with you, especially Revelations haha I'm 47 now btw.

 

My brother always told me politicians were puppets and I've always looked at how the world worked and felt it just doesn't add up. Had an overall interest in war from Napoleonic times too and I think reading about war can teach you a lot about what really goes on and why...

 

Since 9/11 and the mess caused in the Middle East, the mass migration, the weird LGBT narrative being pushed on MSM, climate change etc, I've just felt, we're heading towards "something" but it was the seemingly overnight switch with the BBC "it's the Russians" narrative after the Sergei and Yulia Skripal poisoning that I thought, we're heading to something sooner than I thought. I have also looked at the BBC for quite a long time and felt that much of the main news was actually seriously fake/staged.

 

I've never voted either, as never felt it would make any difference. When you step back and look it's obvious things get taken in a direction regardless of who's in power. Nothing I do stops me paying taxes or not being part of the system but I was always proud I never put my tick in the box of the wrong person just because there wasn't much of a choice...

 

I've had an eye on Mr Icke since the Wogan thing, and have always shown an interest on and off but haven't read all his books. When I have read them they just seem to confirm what I've always "felt" anyway, you're sort of busy trying to enjoy the status quo as it is, getting on with your job/life otherwise what's the point - I wonder how David Icke has done it all this time. I hope with all my heart that he hasn't wasted his time.

 

I don't feel this has meant to have happened just yet but think Trump being in Office, us coming out of the EU, and what obviously seems like a massive paedophile ring about this close to being exposed any minute has bought it all forward a bit but not by much - with 2030 always being thrown around for the NWO and 2050 for it being all done.

 

I haven't seen one alternative media person say this hasn't NOT caught them out either, so for us I think it's an even bigger shock. I've seen many say we're grieving as we have lost out lives, and we know it. Ignorance is bliss...

 

I feel sick when I think about it and have up and down days. Sometimes I think they've gone too far too quickly and that too many people will wake up and the lot is going to come crashing down around them... I do see sense people are asking more and more questions, and also walking around (in the UK) people seem to me to not really be that bothered, and I think if they start trying to force mask wearing they're going to say what for, and the school thing is going to be a massive part of this.

 

Other times I think I just haven't got the energy for the fight, and feel like lying down and hoping I don't wake up as I feel, as has been said, the walls are closing in on me, and I don't want part of it. I don't want to be separated from my partner, that's the thing that worries me but I will be saying no regardless of whatever they say they want to do.

 

I also am not very good at having conversations about this without getting so fucking annoyed with people, so I don't come across well. If I was more articulate and had thicker skin, I would have actually walked around my town hading stuff out. Sometimes I talk myself out of things as when I see the sheep, and they are the majority, I just think no wonder "they" want to depopulate the planet... 

 

Talking on Twitter and a forum isn't really achieving much. I don't want to say what I do think people should be doing as it won't look good on the Forum.

 

If you feel as though you want to say something I think you should say it. I've been on this forum for a month now, and even though I don't post a lot, I do read a lot of stuff and the folks here are very understanding. This whole forum is our safe place, and we should feel free to post our thoughts here. So long as you put your point in a respectful manner all is good.

 

But yes, it seems as though you went through a period of awakening like I did just long before me. I could see through the lies and spins in the media, but never realised just how deep the rabbit hole went. And yeah, it goes DEEP. Deeper than I ever believed possible.

 

I also agree that they have made an error in rushing this through. Something about the early stages of COVID-19 feels wrong. When you exam it, lots of things don't add up, even if you assume deliberate steps were taken that look dodgy (China witholding info, etc), it still doesn't add up. I feel as though the Brexit situation and Trump pushed them into striking a little too quickly, and it could be their downfall. For some people it's been a case of too much too soon and they know something is wrong. That's why I think we must try and wake them up, because LOTS of people are on the fence and just don't know what to really think. Of course it's perfectly okay if you don't feel comfortable trying to wake up complete strangers. I get that. I just feel I can play a part because, even though I'm a loner, I do have a silver tongue when I need it and I'm putting it to good use, epescially when combined with knowledge... But yeah, in a way, this whole thing has brought the best out in me. It feels nice to use my powers of persuasion for something good instead of just for self-gratification. Haha.

 

I know it's hard when you have problems in your family. I hope your partner can understand. My family unit has been rocked by this as well. Usually I'm living in North Wales at this time of year working, but the caravan site I stay at has been closed, so I'm back with my mother for now and grandparents. And yeah, we're having disagreements almost daily at this point. But I'm slowly winning my grandmother over to my side.

 

Anyway, before I wrap this up, let me just say this. Don't despair, my friend. We ain't licked yet! And yes, even if they "win" and in 2050 everything is as they want it, it won't remain like that forever. The force of good itself will intervene if it has to, in order to prevent evil itself from taking over. It may feel tempting to just give up, but that isn't the way. Allow me to once again quote Tolkien (this time Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings).

 

"So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil."

 

Mr. Icke himself is a symbol of that very force. His massive awakening didn't happen by mere chance...

 

Take care and keep the faith.

Edited May 27, 2020 by TruthSeeker27

[Jaquiby]

1 hour ago, Edgecrusher said:

 

I know exactly what you mean.

 

I've always felt "awake" or whatever you wanna' call it. My mum is a Jehovah's witness, and I was brought up being told about "armageddon" from as long as I can remember (I'm not a Jehovahs Witness, organised religion is not for me) but some of it sticks with you, especially Revelations haha I'm 47 now btw.

 

My brother always told me politicians were puppets and I've always looked at how the world worked and felt it just doesn't add up. Had an overall interest in war from Napoleonic times too and I think reading about war can teach you a lot about what really goes on and why...

 

Since 9/11 and the mess caused in the Middle East, the mass migration, the weird LGBT narrative being pushed on MSM, climate change etc, I've just felt, we're heading towards "something" but it was the seemingly overnight switch with the BBC "it's the Russians" narrative after the Sergei and Yulia Skripal poisoning that I thought, we're heading to something sooner than I thought. I have also looked at the BBC for quite a long time and felt that much of the main news was actually seriously fake/staged.

 

I've never voted either, as never felt it would make any difference. When you step back and look it's obvious things get taken in a direction regardless of who's in power. Nothing I do stops me paying taxes or not being part of the system but I was always proud I never put my tick in the box of the wrong person just because there wasn't much of a choice...

 

I've had an eye on Mr Icke since the Wogan thing, and have always shown an interest on and off but haven't read all his books. When I have read them they just seem to confirm what I've always "felt" anyway, you're sort of busy trying to enjoy the status quo as it is, getting on with your job/life otherwise what's the point - I wonder how David Icke has done it all this time. I hope with all my heart that he hasn't wasted his time.

 

I don't feel this has meant to have happened just yet but think Trump being in Office, us coming out of the EU, and what obviously seems like a massive paedophile ring about this close to being exposed any minute has bought it all forward a bit but not by much - with 2030 always being thrown around for the NWO and 2050 for it being all done.

 

I haven't seen one alternative media person say this hasn't NOT caught them out either, so for us I think it's an even bigger shock. I've seen many say we're grieving as we have lost out lives, and we know it. Ignorance is bliss...

 

I feel sick when I think about it and have up and down days. Sometimes I think they've gone too far too quickly and that too many people will wake up and the lot is going to come crashing down around them... I do see sense people are asking more and more questions, and also walking around (in the UK) people seem to me to not really be that bothered, and I think if they start trying to force mask wearing they're going to say what for, and the school thing is going to be a massive part of this.

 

Other times I think I just haven't got the energy for the fight, and feel like lying down and hoping I don't wake up as I feel, as has been said, the walls are closing in on me, and I don't want part of it. I don't want to be separated from my partner, that's the thing that worries me but I will be saying no regardless of whatever they say they want to do.

 

I also am not very good at having conversations about this without getting so fucking annoyed with people, so I don't come across well. If I was more articulate and had thicker skin, I would have actually walked around my town hading stuff out. Sometimes I talk myself out of things as when I see the sheep, and they are the majority, I just think no wonder "they" want to depopulate the planet... 

 

Talking on Twitter and a forum isn't really achieving much. I don't want to say what I do think people should be doing as it won't look good on the Forum.

 

[Dagmar Gross]

I have been reading many Mind, Body, Spirit type books for decades, but somehow managed to miss David completely till last year, when I saw him being interviewed on GaiaTV. I kept forgetting to check him out until January this year, I think it was, and bought a couple of his books. And then this whole plan-whotsit (I'm trying to avoid words with which I might get kicked out by the security again) kicked off. So, I feel I was led to him just in time. Ever since, he and this site are what is keeping me sane.

I have been using my daily walks in park and woodland to spread any information I was gleaning to as many people as possible, at least one person every day. I don't go up to them like some cheeky rep. When we have smiled at one another and commented on how lucky we are to have so much green space and a wooded hill to walk on too, especially in the mainly wonderful weather we have been having for so many weeks during this lockdown, I start off with transmitting. People have so much more time to chat than before. That is so helpful!

 

Regarding our way out of this, I want to really recommend a video on this site with an interview with Alchemy Radio! David explains really well how by simply being confident we raise our vibrations and automatically attract what we need. Also, once we shed our fear of consequences of our rebellious acts he says the feared consequences won't happen! Yes, it does sound too good to be true, but it is worth trying. Then, mid-August The Answer will be out, which will tell us all this and much more no doubt. I am so looking forward to that! It seems we will get the help we need. And yesterday's featured video with Laura Eisenhower's message is so brilliant too! According to her, an entire army of Light Beings is out there to help and she says they will!

Hey, we need to believe anything fantastic is possible and that will then become our reality. We have nothing to lose by trying it! If it does go wrong, well there is always that option of going back to the Stone Age somewhere or perhaps by then Michael Tellinger will have managed to get his UBUNTU project of "One Small Town" going somewhere? That is worth checking out, only perhaps the U-Zs will send their minions to stop anything like that. Our only real option seems to be the Light Beings and their colleagues...

[Dagmar Gross]

43 minutes ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

 

If you feel as though you want to say something I think you should say it. I've been on this forum for a month now, and even though I don't post a lot, I do read a lot of stuff and the folks here are very understanding. This whole forum is our safe place, and we should feel free to post our thoughts here. So long as you put your point in a respectful manner all is good.

 

But yes, it seems as though you went through a period of awakening like I did just long before me. I could see through the lies and spins in the media, but never realised just how deep the rabbit hole went. And yeah, it goes DEEP. Deeper than I ever believed possible.

 

I also agree that they have made an error in rushing this through. Something about the early stages of COVID-19 feels wrong. When you exam it, lots of things don't add up, even if you assume deliberate steps were taken that look dodgy (China witholding info, etc), it still doesn't add up. I feel as though the Brexit situation and Trump pushed them into striking a little too quickly, and it could be their downfall. For some people it's been a case of too much too soon and they know something is wrong. That's why I think we must try and wake them up, because LOTS of people are on the fence and just don't know what to really think. Of course it's perfectly okay if you don't feel comfortable trying to wake up complete strangers. I get that. I just feel I can play a part because, even though I'm a loner, I do have a silver tongue when I need it and I'm putting it to good use, epescially when combined with knowledge... But yeah, in a way, this whole thing has brought the best out in me. It feels nice to use my powers of persuasion for something good instead of just for self-gratification. Haha.

 

I know it's hard when you have problems in your family. I hope your partner can understand. My family unit has been rocked by this as well. Usually I'm living in North Wales at this time of year working, but the caravan site I stay at has been closed, so I'm back with my mother for now and grandparents. And yeah, we're having disagreements almost daily at this point. But I'm slowly winning my grandmother over to my side.

 

Anyway, before I wrap this up, let me just say this. Don't despair, my friend. We ain't licked yet! And yes, even if they "win" and in 2050 everything is as they want it, it won't remain like that forever. The force of good itself will intervene if it has to, in order to prevent evil itself from taking over. It may feel tempting to just give up, but that isn't the way. Allow me to once again quote Tolkien (this time Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings).

 

"So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil."

 

Mr. Icke himself is a symbol of that very force. His massive awakening didn't happen by mere chance...

 

Take care and keep the faith.

When you say 2050, I think we don't have so much time. The issue I want to remind you all of here I cannot mention, but we only have till the autumn. I have already been kicked off the site twice for that. An explicit article on this can be found at NHSGGC.

[Koru25]

So, I am sitting in the spare room after having an argument with hubby about all this...one of many arguments. I couldn't sleep, so here I am. I haven't posted on here before (I don't think) and it's reassuring to read what other like minded folk are saying. I actually was looking up the DI at Wembley vids to remind myself of some stuff, then sadly remembered they aren't available anymore and couldn't find them here. Anyway I digress...

I agree, enough is enough. For me the past - is it 9 weeks?! - have been such an emotional rollercoaster. I have been gradually becoming more aware of all this stuff for 10 years, but this current situation hit me like a bus. The first week of lockup I cried every day (one of my sons did too, whether he picked up on it, or it was from his own shock...probably a bit of both). Ups and downs and lots of big arguments with husband and we don't usually argue very much so it's been very unsettling. 

I struggle to understand how he can't see how everything is connected. He just doesn't get the totalitarian tiptoe at all, no matter what I throw at him (and I don't mean plates lol!). He just thinks perhaps this is the way capitalism and humanity was going anyway. I get what he's saying, to a point, but there are so many other factors and events that have happened that point to something much greater.
I'm going to encourage him to watch Thrive as I think that's a good low-level starting point that addresses it all in a way he will appreciate.

I also at the same time just don't think it's possible for everyone to see the truth. Some people aren't meant to see it, or maybe knowing it in their bones is enough and to verbalise it is too much for their souls to bear. 

Before the current situation I never wanted to become a prepper as it felt too negative. Right now though, the inclination towards self sufficiency is becoming much more prominent. I think this is a time when likeminded people are coming together and I am thankful I have some good friends and we're having amazing discussions. We are planning on making an Orgone Generator to have a positive intent (yet to be set) on our nearby town. This feels like a positive step, even when we don't know what the future holds. It feels less like we are sitting ducks so to speak.

I would urge others, if the call is there, to investigate dowsing, the Zero Point Field (The Field is a great book on that I'm currently reading) and how to try and help influence this situation and the energies of our planet positively. Not that I am an expert on that front, I have had my fair share of tits up days!

I agree with truthseeker27

59 minutes ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

The force of good itself will intervene if it has to,

 

I just don't think we can carry on along this plane without 'good' stepping in. Good always prevails and so does truth.....eventually, whenever that eventually is. 

 

[Koru25]

18 minutes ago, Dagmar Gross said:

When you say 2050, I think we don't have so much time. The issue I want to remind you all of here I cannot mention, but we only have till the autumn. I have already been kicked off the site twice for that. An explicit article on this can be found at NHSGGC.

When I google (well, duckduckgo) that it comes up with a health service in glasgee?!! Not sure what you are referring to. Any more info?

[Sentient Being]

I'm personally trying to take a positive attitude towards what's going on at the moment. Being angry just lowers your vibrational level anyway and being pissed off all the time leads to frustration and anger which doesn't really get you anywhere.

 

One thing I've noticed is more and more people are waking up. I'm not saying they are fully awaken but even if they get to a level where they think 'something doesn't add up here' then that's a start. For me, that's the spark that lights the fire.

 

Those negative entities running the show at the moment are hell-bent on keeping people locked down and dumbed down when in reality they are rapidly doing the opposite - and so they are exposing themselves in a rush to get their 'plan' into place. With so many people off work it means more opportunities to look into things from alternative sources rather than watching the Tell-Lie-Vision.

 

My point is (and I can't remember who said it), if you can get just 1 percent or so of the world population to wake up and truly smell the coffee then you have succeeded. 0.01 percent of the population have succeeded for centuries to try and destroy and control the world so just 1 percent outnumbers them exponentially as more and more people are waking up too.

 

The only snag is that so many people have been brainwashed for so long that it will take a lot for them to push-back and that's why I think we are at a tipping point right now.

 

 

[Edgecrusher]

28 minutes ago, Sentient Being said:

One thing I've noticed is more and more people are waking up. I'm not saying they are fully awaken but even if they get to a level where they think 'something doesn't add up here' then that's a start. For me, that's the spark that lights the fire.

 

My point is (and I can't remember who said it), if you can get just 1 percent or so of the world population to wake up and truly smell the coffee then you have succeeded. 0.01 percent of the population have succeeded for centuries to try and destroy and control the world so just 1 percent outnumbers them exponentially as more and more people are waking up too.

 

Article here says 1 in 5 believe it's all a hoax. That's quite a fair few million people... That's 20% of the UK adult population, with people waking up all the time.

 

Lot's of people are "academically" thick but it doesn't take much for them to say "hang on, this is all over the top. I know a hairdresser, or a gym instructor that's fucked because of a "virus" with a 99.9% survival rate..."

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/22/860947708/1-in-5-in-england-think-the-coronavirus-is-a-hoax?t=1590607751756

[2020member]

21 hours ago, TruthSeeker27 said:

I'm in the unique position of "enough being enough" happening at the same moment as my awakening, or soon after. I had always had my doubts about this world, and just knew that forces existed beyond my comprehension. One way or another, I knew that the bloke or woman in Number 10 Downing Street wasn't running my country. I always knew that forces existed beyond that, pulling the strings on a global level. But I never gave it much thought. I am essentially your archetype loner. I love my family, but enjoy being alone and indeed, spend the majority of my time alone, isolated from the potential madness of the world, choosing instead to focus on my own little world, and how I can do my bit to help others in it, those who I see or interact with on a daily basis... But now everything has changed.

 

Yes, this plandemic has forced me to sit up and take full attention of what's happening. But it's so awful because yes, it is like a tidal wave that's suddenly arrived before me. It had always been a distant speck on the horizon. But while you and clearly many others on this forum had noticed it creeping closer and closer, for me it went from being in the distance to being literally upon me, right on my doorstep. The world has seemingly gone mad... But now I know it was crooked to begin with. Filled with dark forces and so many fools willing to do whatever the state tells them to do.

 

Enough is enough for me already. The week that changed everything for me was the week between the 17th of March to the 24th. Those days were among the most significant in my life. That's when the awakening happened and now it's just about planning ahead. It's getting to the point where I feel lost. I am determined not to slink away. I do not blame those who choose to flee from society. I actually envy you... But I feel it would be pointless. In time, "they" (you know who they are) will come for you. The powers that be will not let people break away unless they want them to. I believe the only hope we have now is fighting back from within and that's what I'm trying to do on a daily basis. Trying my hardest to wake other people up and I am having some success. If you're not doing so already, I do highly suggest that everyone who reads this tries to wake other people up. It may seem pointless and you may get mocked. Have patience. They don't get it. But they are more willing to listen now because they know that something is rotten somewhere. This whole global event has changed everything, for better and for worse. 

 

I honestly believe that these summer months will be our last of freedom (or at least, a certain, pathetic form of it), and our last chance to wake other people up. We can't waste this chance. We have to fight back... And yeah, it may end badly, but...to quote Thorin Oakenshield (from The Hobbit)..."If this is to end in fire...then we will all burn together!"

Thank you for sharing. I too 100% agree that this summer of unbelievable weather is a real last blast of freedom. I am constantly thanking and praying to the creator for offering up such beauty amongst chaos. And yes, 5 months ago 5G all the way to David Icke himself were never conversations for the dinner table. But not I feel compelled to speak my truth all the time. And thats a recurring theme all over. 

[Fluke]

On 5/27/2020 at 8:52 PM, TruthSeeker27 said:

 

I honestly believe that these summer months will be our last of freedom (or at least, a certain, pathetic form of it), and our last chance to wake other people up. We can't waste this chance. We have to fight back... And yeah, it may end badly, but...to quote Thorin Oakenshield (from The Hobbit)..."If this is to end in fire...then we will all burn together!"

That's Abrahamic religious nonsense thoroughly bad mindset that helps nobody. It's not your job to wake others up and it never will be. You don't waste the chance, what you do is something productive with your time , something artistic something spiritual whatever floats your boat. "We have to fight back... And yeah it may end badly". It will only end badly if you are talking about taking to the streets. 

 

Being awake isn't enough as long as you are lusting to wake others up. And you will always be unhappy with that mindset. It won't work. 

[Yasmina]

On 5/27/2020 at 3:39 PM, 2020member said:

I, like many on here, discovered the essence of David's work many years before the biggest overhaul to this planet we've ever seen since WWII. 

 

Don't get me wrong the walls have been closing in for a long time, and this way of life has been at odds with my ethical and moral compass more and more. But... this way of life up until late, has been just about bearable and i've managed to co-exist with the state forcing the will of the few onto the many. 

 

Mandatory vaccines, microchips, contact tracing, biometric passports, 5G et al. Is where I will personally draw the line and lay down everything to stop this becoming my new reality. And when I mean lay down everything, I mean everything.

 

If family ties have to be cut, marriages have to be broken and fleeing the city to live off-grid with like-minded people is the only option to preserve a life that does not go against everything I have ever believed in - then so be it. 

 

As long as you don't think that some group like Q-Anon are doing all the graft behind the scenes on our behalf. Then i'm afraid these are the tough choices many thousands of people will have to be making in the coming years, or maybe even months. 

 

I'm wondering if others on the forum are of the same opinion who have managed to grin and bear it up until now. People such as myself, who have managed to coexist and work within the system even though they know the truth. I think the charade is going to come to an end soon and those who relentlessly duck and dive the vaccine (and the system in general) will have no place to hide and will eventually become social outcasts. 

 

The only fall back is a new system and way of life for people like us as we reach this fork in the road...

 

Agree with everything you said! I feel exactly the same way. It has been bearable up until now, but all this new abnormal shit, sorry, but I cannot deal. 

[2020member]

On 5/27/2020 at 11:05 PM, Edgecrusher said:

 

I know exactly what you mean.

 

I've always felt "awake" or whatever you wanna' call it. My mum is a Jehovah's witness, and I was brought up being told about "armageddon" from as long as I can remember (I'm not a Jehovahs Witness, organised religion is not for me) but some of it sticks with you, especially Revelations haha I'm 47 now btw.

 

My brother always told me politicians were puppets and I've always looked at how the world worked and felt it just doesn't add up. Had an overall interest in war from Napoleonic times too and I think reading about war can teach you a lot about what really goes on and why...

 

Since 9/11 and the mess caused in the Middle East, the mass migration, the weird LGBT narrative being pushed on MSM, climate change etc, I've just felt, we're heading towards "something" but it was the seemingly overnight switch with the BBC "it's the Russians" narrative after the Sergei and Yulia Skripal poisoning that I thought, we're heading to something sooner than I thought. I have also looked at the BBC for quite a long time and felt that much of the main news was actually seriously fake/staged.

 

I've never voted either, as never felt it would make any difference. When you step back and look it's obvious things get taken in a direction regardless of who's in power. Nothing I do stops me paying taxes or not being part of the system but I was always proud I never put my tick in the box of the wrong person just because there wasn't much of a choice...

 

I've had an eye on Mr Icke since the Wogan thing, and have always shown an interest on and off but haven't read all his books. When I have read them they just seem to confirm what I've always "felt" anyway, you're sort of busy trying to enjoy the status quo as it is, getting on with your job/life otherwise what's the point - I wonder how David Icke has done it all this time. I hope with all my heart that he hasn't wasted his time.

 

I don't feel this has meant to have happened just yet but think Trump being in Office, us coming out of the EU, and what obviously seems like a massive paedophile ring about this close to being exposed any minute has bought it all forward a bit but not by much - with 2030 always being thrown around for the NWO and 2050 for it being all done.

 

I haven't seen one alternative media person say this hasn't NOT caught them out either, so for us I think it's an even bigger shock. I've seen many say we're grieving as we have lost out lives, and we know it. Ignorance is bliss...

 

I feel sick when I think about it and have up and down days. Sometimes I think they've gone too far too quickly and that too many people will wake up and the lot is going to come crashing down around them... I do see sense people are asking more and more questions, and also walking around (in the UK) people seem to me to not really be that bothered, and I think if they start trying to force mask wearing they're going to say what for, and the school thing is going to be a massive part of this.

 

Other times I think I just haven't got the energy for the fight, and feel like lying down and hoping I don't wake up as I feel, as has been said, the walls are closing in on me, and I don't want part of it. I don't want to be separated from my partner, that's the thing that worries me but I will be saying no regardless of whatever they say they want to do.

 

I also am not very good at having conversations about this without getting so fucking annoyed with people, so I don't come across well. If I was more articulate and had thicker skin, I would have actually walked around my town hading stuff out. Sometimes I talk myself out of things as when I see the sheep, and they are the majority, I just think no wonder "they" want to depopulate the planet... 

 

Talking on Twitter and a forum isn't really achieving much. I don't want to say what I do think people should be doing as it won't look good on the Forum.

 

thanks for sharing. what you say really resonates with me. 

[2020member]

On 5/27/2020 at 11:36 PM, Fluke said:

Well I feel you OP and i think many others here will echo those same fears. I am of a different mindset as of late which has proven not to be all to popular. But it works for the most part for me and i would go as far as saying it is the only thing that works.

 

The real problem with a significant dare i say the majority of people who are awake to these things is they have a mindset where they need to wake others up. As long as you have that mindset you are then almost by default waiting for an outcome. For instance it could be a social media post, a conversation, a video if you put content or ideas out there and are waiting for others to see it, (truther stuff) thus you are then usually waiting for an outcome (most people.) It wont come with most people. In fact you will just be unliked. 

 

So while i share your anxiety for the world that awaits I am still opitimistic to a certain extent. You mentioned forced vaccinations but we still don't know if that is going to go ahead. What percentage do you think will reject it? Lets say 10% reject it do you think the elite will care if the majority gets it? My concern all along is that they will use social pressures to shame those that don't conform, we have seen examples of this during the lockdown. 

 

So when we try to live as best as we can, talk to like minded people that is enough. As soon as people get over the fact that salvation is not coming, and that no speaker, guru, is leading us, we may develop within ourselves and surround ourselves with those we love. 

 

This lockdown has given us the biggest red pill will ever have. We now know who we cannot trust in our lives. Your neighbours, the ones who make condesending remarks at you at a supermarket for not "social distancing". Your hysterical family members. The mad neighbours clapping for "the heroes". But most of all we cannot trust the journalists, the mainstream media who pretty much have silenced any descenting voice against this lockdown. The civil servents. You now know the names of thw civil servents who have been promoting this lockdown. You now know which ones in your community you cannot trust. And the cowardly citizens of this country who have obeyed and trusted whatever the mainstream media tell them. The phrase should not have been stay home stay lives. It should have been stay home destroy jobs.

 

Learn from it, but don't them take your happiness, creativity, and love. And when i stopped worrying about the masses waking up those things magnified inside of myself. More so, i didn't want them to wake up. Because most people... they've revealed themselves during this lockdown and well its not great is it.?

 

I echo your thoughts about participating in a system where you KNOW its morally corrupt. But don't cut your nose off to spite your face. 

 

thank you for sharing. 100% you have to be the change you want to see. and exactly... this whole saga has certainly been like panning for gold or sorting the wheat from chaff or whatever analogy you want to give it! 

[2020member]

On 5/27/2020 at 11:58 PM, TruthSeeker27 said:

 

If you feel as though you want to say something I think you should say it. I've been on this forum for a month now, and even though I don't post a lot, I do read a lot of stuff and the folks here are very understanding. This whole forum is our safe place, and we should feel free to post our thoughts here. So long as you put your point in a respectful manner all is good.

 

But yes, it seems as though you went through a period of awakening like I did just long before me. I could see through the lies and spins in the media, but never realised just how deep the rabbit hole went. And yeah, it goes DEEP. Deeper than I ever believed possible.

 

I also agree that they have made an error in rushing this through. Something about the early stages of COVID-19 feels wrong. When you exam it, lots of things don't add up, even if you assume deliberate steps were taken that look dodgy (China witholding info, etc), it still doesn't add up. I feel as though the Brexit situation and Trump pushed them into striking a little too quickly, and it could be their downfall. For some people it's been a case of too much too soon and they know something is wrong. That's why I think we must try and wake them up, because LOTS of people are on the fence and just don't know what to really think. Of course it's perfectly okay if you don't feel comfortable trying to wake up complete strangers. I get that. I just feel I can play a part because, even though I'm a loner, I do have a silver tongue when I need it and I'm putting it to good use, epescially when combined with knowledge... But yeah, in a way, this whole thing has brought the best out in me. It feels nice to use my powers of persuasion for something good instead of just for self-gratification. Haha.

 

I know it's hard when you have problems in your family. I hope your partner can understand. My family unit has been rocked by this as well. Usually I'm living in North Wales at this time of year working, but the caravan site I stay at has been closed, so I'm back with my mother for now and grandparents. And yeah, we're having disagreements almost daily at this point. But I'm slowly winning my grandmother over to my side.

 

Anyway, before I wrap this up, let me just say this. Don't despair, my friend. We ain't licked yet! And yes, even if they "win" and in 2050 everything is as they want it, it won't remain like that forever. The force of good itself will intervene if it has to, in order to prevent evil itself from taking over. It may feel tempting to just give up, but that isn't the way. Allow me to once again quote Tolkien (this time Gandalf in The Lord of the Rings).

 

"So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil."

 

Mr. Icke himself is a symbol of that very force. His massive awakening didn't happen by mere chance...

 

Take care and keep the faith.

thank you for sharing. i 100% know what its like to have the daily disagreements. 

[2020member]

On 5/28/2020 at 1:01 AM, Koru25 said:

So, I am sitting in the spare room after having an argument with hubby about all this...one of many arguments. I couldn't sleep, so here I am. I haven't posted on here before (I don't think) and it's reassuring to read what other like minded folk are saying. I actually was looking up the DI at Wembley vids to remind myself of some stuff, then sadly remembered they aren't available anymore and couldn't find them here. Anyway I digress...

I agree, enough is enough. For me the past - is it 9 weeks?! - have been such an emotional rollercoaster. I have been gradually becoming more aware of all this stuff for 10 years, but this current situation hit me like a bus. The first week of lockup I cried every day (one of my sons did too, whether he picked up on it, or it was from his own shock...probably a bit of both). Ups and downs and lots of big arguments with husband and we don't usually argue very much so it's been very unsettling. 

I struggle to understand how he can't see how everything is connected. He just doesn't get the totalitarian tiptoe at all, no matter what I throw at him (and I don't mean plates lol!). He just thinks perhaps this is the way capitalism and humanity was going anyway. I get what he's saying, to a point, but there are so many other factors and events that have happened that point to something much greater.
I'm going to encourage him to watch Thrive as I think that's a good low-level starting point that addresses it all in a way he will appreciate.

I also at the same time just don't think it's possible for everyone to see the truth. Some people aren't meant to see it, or maybe knowing it in their bones is enough and to verbalise it is too much for their souls to bear. 

Before the current situation I never wanted to become a prepper as it felt too negative. Right now though, the inclination towards self sufficiency is becoming much more prominent. I think this is a time when likeminded people are coming together and I am thankful I have some good friends and we're having amazing discussions. We are planning on making an Orgone Generator to have a positive intent (yet to be set) on our nearby town. This feels like a positive step, even when we don't know what the future holds. It feels less like we are sitting ducks so to speak.

I would urge others, if the call is there, to investigate dowsing, the Zero Point Field (The Field is a great book on that I'm currently reading) and how to try and help influence this situation and the energies of our planet positively. Not that I am an expert on that front, I have had my fair share of tits up days!

I agree with truthseeker27

 

I just don't think we can carry on along this plane without 'good' stepping in. Good always prevails and so does truth.....eventually, whenever that eventually is. 

 

thank you so much for sharing. i really feel for you. i live with 3 other people who don't 'get it' whatsoever. All I can say is, keep chipping away and don't let your own health suffer from other peoples ignorance. it is only ourselves that can live our own lives. and if your spiritual at all... you'll know that it is us that have to stand before the creator and account for ourselves on judgement day. stay safe and stay strong. 

[TruthSeeker27]

13 hours ago, Fluke said:

That's Abrahamic religious nonsense thoroughly bad mindset that helps nobody. It's not your job to wake others up and it never will be. You don't waste the chance, what you do is something productive with your time , something artistic something spiritual whatever floats your boat. "We have to fight back... And yeah it may end badly". It will only end badly if you are talking about taking to the streets. 

 

Being awake isn't enough as long as you are lusting to wake others up. And you will always be unhappy with that mindset. It won't work. 

 

Well, considering I'm a Catholic, I don't dismiss it as "Abrahamic religious nonsense". What you view as a "thoroughly bad mindest", I see as our only hope of salvation. If a man lives only for himself (and those he cares for) he acheives nothing. If we live for others, we acheieve everything, regardless or not if my beliefs in God are correct or not. If all of Mankind became more selfless, Earth itself would become a paradise.

 

It is not my job in a technical sense, no, but it feels that way to me. Perhaps the word "mission" or "calling" would be more fitting. You may see it as fruitless but I don't. From my online correspondences I can confirm that I have successfully awakened others. True, they were more willing to listen than some, but they weren't quite there. Most recently a Canadian woman and myself have been talking quite a lot about this and I have introduced her to David and his work. Please tell me in what way that is a bad thing?

 

Sitting around doing something artistic or spirtiual, etc, "whatever floats your boat" doesn't cut it if you truly see things the way I do. I see it as a ticking time bomb. I honestly do believe that our world will be changed forever within the next few months to a year (at max). There's no coming back from what we're heading towards. I'm not willing to just sit and take it. True, I could just try and enjoy my last moments of real freedom (although I believe that true freedom was lost a long, long time ago now), but what would be the point in that? It would be going against my own nature.

 

When I say "it may end badly", I refer to this being ultimatley a losing battle. If enough people don't wake up, it is over. Why do you think David recently asked us to share his work? He literally asked us to help spread his messages recently on Bitchute. He did that because he knows, like I do, that to stand a real chance we need numbers. We need more people to resist. Everything is going exactly as they planned at the moment. If it carries on like this, and we reach the grand finale, it will end badly. I don't advocate taking to the streets (not yet at least). All I ask is that we try our best to help others wake up. Show the truth and expose it. 

 

Am I unhappy? Perhaps. But not when I'm working to help others and trying to expose the truth. Then I feel good about myself. I feel as though I am making a difference. Maybe I'm crazy, I don't know...but I think I am making a difference.

Edited May 29, 2020 by TruthSeeker27