awake Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, alexa said: Revelation 12 2 And then a great wonder appeared in heaven: There was a woman who was clothed with the sun, and the moon was under her feet. She had a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was pregnant and cried out with pain because she was about to give birth. Sounds like a sensationalized media report So she gave birth to a son in the morning as the sun rose from the horizon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 10 hours ago, oz93666 said: That bible verse was written over a thousand years ago ..."this generation did pass away " ...and none of it "took place" Sorry are you saying that the covenant breakers in Matthew 24 didnt face judgement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKitty Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 12 hours ago, theo102 said: You don't have to be a genius to realise that people were not publicly celebrating the killing of unarmed foreigners in 1984, or any other year, for that manner. Perhaps you haven't read enough history books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 1 hour ago, KingKitty said: Perhaps you haven't read enough history books. Perhaps you have no point to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKitty Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 5 hours ago, theo102 said: Perhaps you have no point to make. I like you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKitty Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, KingKitty said: I like you. I'm glad you are chuckling (I'll pretend it's with me and not at me). I wasn't being facetious, I genuinely appreciate being able to have a civil disagreement with another. Even tossing a few fun jabs at each other, without either of us resorting to name calling or worse. Would be rather dull if we all agreed on everything, afterall. So, until we meet again in another time, on another topic...be it abortion...be it global warming...be it Paul is dead...allow me say, I look forward to more verbal joisting with one so nobel as you. I bid good day to you, sir. [...then I doft my hat, mount my steed, and ride briskly into the early morning fog...aaaannd scene!] ...you guys think he bought it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOP Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I'm really surprised that none of you get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Scott Kirkland Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 We only hear about God's side of the story, It could turn out to be the very first propaganda job, Lucifer might be the good one, He only punishes the evil, God on the other hand would be classed as a sociopath, with narcassistic tendancies, Making sure the only work he does is telling television preachers that, He needs them to buy bigger private jets, God also wants the preachers followers to pay for it, If the bible is to belived God threatens all humans with genocide if he thought humans did not love and worship him enough, set his son Jesus up to be murdered "to prove he loves us" "Jesus was given the power to be a good listener, unconditional love, A noble trait, but next to useless in a life or death situation. Watches on as war is fought in his name, God may have created Lucifer use as a patsy in case Jesus shows up on Dr Phil, talking about his father getting his virgin mother pregnant. And pre-booking every motel, and inn room in advance so Joseph could not provide Mary any comfort in childbirth. Jesus was exited to get a message from his father, Telling Jesus to tell everybody that he is the king of the Jews. He was led to belive this would be great news. Also getting rid of the money changers "Bankers" from the temple, So Jesus and his crew went to the temple overturned the money changers tables took the money and told them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves. Don't you know who my dad is, "Now get the fuck out" allegedly for legal reasons. So Jesus passed on his message like a good son, He was taken aback by the negative response to his news. His super listening powers were weak against the kill him responses from a minority he heard. Shouts of you arrogant prick, Your dad's a wanker bemused the son of God. But still he carried on loving without condition listening to any problem. The problem he ignored was that, the current king was a bit of a drama queen. King Herod the great, the brutal Roman king who orderderd a massacre after being asked about "the one" King of the Jews, Jesus was warned that King of the Jews job was already taken. After seeing a drunken Jesus wearing a robe with I'm the king of the Jews, "Herod is a douchbag" sewn onto the back, He ordered the execution of Jesus. As a extra bit of evil, Joseph, Jesus step-dad owned a thriving wooden cross company, Was given the job to build a special cross. Which he unknowingly built. Jesus was at his supper party with his apostle's and "Who they called cock block" Mary, When a crowd arrived to arrest Jesus. Earlier that night Jesus recalled Judas referring to the night as the last supper, and became suspicious, At that moment Jesus says to Judas, I know it was you and it breaks my heart. As Judas kisses Jesus and calls him Rabbi to signal to the crowd. Jesus says you fucking Judas, Mary picks up a knife and stabs Judas in the back, telling him "Epstein did not kill himself". A threat in any language. The day of the exuction as Joseph looked up proudly at his cross, He forgot he also supplying extra long nails. As Jesus in placed up on the cross he tells the condemmed man next to him, Don't worry we will go to paradise. I know the guy who owns it. As the nails are hammered into his hands Jesus smiles, and Shouts "I will see you fuckers at the ressurection" I'll be back in three days. during the long agonising crucifiction Jesus thought God my dad is a dick. And thinks I know you are watching this shit. As that bell end soldier drove his spear into Jesus body. Jesus whispered you owe me money for 18 bottles of wine I made for you. And then taking his last breath, he heard Harod shout "Who is king of the Jews now?" Three days later a now angry Jesus woke up in a dark cave. It turns out he has the superpower self healing. With super strength, A huge rock in the mouth of the cave is moved. In suspense a huge crowd has come to see if Jesus had returned. Out of the darkness a figure appears it's Jesus and he looks ripped, all wounds healed. He proclaims Lucifer brought me back. Lucifer and God are the same person. He suffers from Dissociactive identity disorder. The loneliness of being God Almighty made his mind split into two seperate entities. While God created the Heavens and the Earth on day one. Then said to nobody, I can't see anything I should of created light before I started working on anything else. A couple of facts in my story may be slightly inaccutate. Also some I found misreading all of Dan Browns Da Vinci code books, Also a lot of it is passed on information from generation to generation, from eye witness accounts from people who translated the translations of unreadable ancient text, written by witnesses who wrote about their findings of long forgotten invisible crude carvings in a cave where allegedly A Mr Jesus Scott Christ, Had carved king of the Jews waz ere, along with evidence that somebody had stayed in the cave for three days before some sort of ressurection type event photographic evidence of these carvings was said to of exsisted untill, A Mr God Christ allegedly took out a court injuntion to stop those pictures ever becoming public, to respect the familys privacy. As they wished to remain anonymous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 13 hours ago, AOP said: I'm really surprised that none of you get it. Are you including me? Can you expound on your point? Listen, when you are in prison, go by the rules set by the governor. If you don't like it, get out and never come back! I play by the Lucifer's rules if it is here to gatekeep us but that would include deception and desire (hot word of the week). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 13 hours ago, Scott Kirkland said: We only hear about God's side of the story, It could turn out to be the very first propaganda job What "God" are you talking about? The Bible is a collection of books from different sources, and they don't refer to the same thing as "God". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, theo102 said: What "God" are you talking about? The Bible is a collection of books from different sources, and they don't refer to the same thing as "God". Actually the Bible is just about one God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Forsaken Bankzy said: Actually the Bible is just about one God. No, The OT starts talking about Elohim, but the NT starts talking about El. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, theo102 said: No, The OT starts talking about Elohim, but the NT starts talking about El. Can you provide scripture, and do you also take into consideration that Judaism, Christianity and the Islamic faith believe in one God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Forsaken Bankzy said: Can you provide scripture Genesis 1:1 (God->Elohim) vs Matthew 1:23 (God->El from Emmanuel) 2 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: and do you also take into consideration that Judaism, Christianity and the Islamic faith believe in one God? They don't. Judaism distinguishes between YHWH and Elohim, Christianity is confused about identity, and Islam focuses on Allah, although it acknowledges the involvement of other beings of lesser status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, theo102 said: Genesis 1:1 (God->Elohim) vs Matthew 1:23 (God->El from Emmanuel) But matthew is not referring to a different God. Immanuel means God with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: But matthew is not referring to a different God. Immanuel means God with us. No, it means El is with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, theo102 said: No, it means El is with us. So in Matthew's eye's who is El? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, theo102 said: They don't. Judaism distinguishes between YHWH and Elohim, Christianity is confused about identity, and Islam focuses on Allah, although it acknowledges the involvement of other beings of lesser status. No, Judaism will say YHWH is the Elohim of all Elohim. Christianity is pretty clear on it's monolithic faith, ie. the Trinitarian doctrine. And Allah in the Islamic faith is one God, you can argue that Allah is the God of the OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Forsaken Bankzy said: So in Matthew's eye's who is El? Hard to say what the writer of Matthew thought, since the reference is to Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew refers to a virgin when the original text does not. Emmanuel is literally a reference to El. 4 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: No, Judaism will say YHWH is the Elohim of all Elohim. It doesn't say that. Deuteronomy 6:4 doesn't even contain the word Elohim. 5 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: Christianity is pretty clear on it's monolithic faith, ie. the Trinitarian doctrine. That doctrine isn't supported by their canonical texts, eg Psalm 82. 6 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: And Allah in the Islamic faith is one God, you can argue that Allah is the God of the OT. That doesn't work because Allah is singular but Elohim is plural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 21 hours ago, AOP said: I'm really surprised that none of you get it. That half this thread is shills or fools with their flat Earth? Earth is an anagram for Heart. Mirror the H front to back. Most people don't have the intellect to understand magnetism and its role in the universe, let alone the multiverse. Has anyone yet explained how thick the "flat" Earth bottom is to hold the thousands of pounds of pressure of water and coral? No one has explained that part yet? That's what I thought. Don't any of you flat-Earthers have friends who are pilots? I know three men who used to fly for Southwest airlines, I've spoke to them about this and they laugh. Please tell me, if the Earth were flat then why does it take less time to fly from west to east, and more time to fly from east to west. Think about it, it's actually an easy answer. Does anyone know what a gatekeeper is? It is a person who infiltrates the truth community and pollutes it by offering up truths to such events as the staged shootings for example, or maybe some inside information on corona "virus", etc. While they are gaining your trust they then quietly slip in some rubbish such as flat Earth, and they trick you with some loaded info and questions that you can't prove only because you haven't the financial means to do so. How many of you would go up in a shuttle if you were offered? Thousands of miles so that you could see the Earth from afar.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, theo102 said: It doesn't say that. Deuteronomy 6:4 doesn't even contain the word Elohim. The word Elohim doesn't just mean one God though, It was reference to spiritual beings. The point is that the OT is clear about the one true God, and the the NT is in full support of that because it does not deny the OT one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: The word Elohim doesn't just mean one God though, It was reference to spiritual beings. It doesn't mean that, in Genesis 1:26 men and women were made in the likeness of Elohim, meaning that Elohim had a physical form like people do. Also the angel that Jacob wrestled was described as Elohim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, theo102 said: Hard to say what the writer of Matthew thought, since the reference is to Isaiah 7:14 and Matthew refers to a virgin when the original text does not. Emmanuel is literally a reference to El. https://www.preceptaustin.org/immanuel-emmanuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, theo102 said: It doesn't mean that, in Genesis 1:26 men and women were made in the likeness of Elohim, meaning that Elohim had a physical form like people do. Also the angel that Jacob wrestled was described as Elohim. As Elohim is referenced in different ways. Do you have any other scripture where the God of the OT is different to the one in the NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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