Millennial Generation

[rideforever]

Is there something very wrong with the millennial generation?
Are the problems we see today a result of this generation entering and taking positions of authority in society.

Society seemed to look very different 20 years ago, but rapidly a shift has happened in a generation.

Is there something badly wrong with that generation?

[Tinfoil Hat]

No, Rideforever. My daughter's a millennial and is clever, industrious & and kind-hearted. All her friends that I've ever met have been lovely, without exception. 

 

On another site I look on, they're fond of blaming Boomers (my generation) for all the ills of the world.

 

I'm not in agreement. 

 

 

[rideforever]

Isn't it something like this : to be raised with everyone falling over to make you feel comfortable and accepted and special with values and promises and world peace and disney land.

And so there is not the slightest reality in it.  If something goes wrong, how could it be inside me .... as I am so special and accepted, it must be somebody else's fault.  And what need is there for responsibility or tradition when I am so wonderful and everything is right.

This is the way to hell, via total fakeness.  The fake news, fake culture, fake politics, fake food, fake everything .... because everyone is so accepted and special.

To which generation this points to I don't know ... but I see that young people around 20 are not like that, they are more straightforward and honest. 

[Tinfoil Hat]

I expect some people in all age groups are like that. I didn't parent that way (& I was raised the opposite of that - children should be seen & not heard, and preferably not seen too  ).

 

There was supposed to be an element of that in schools, with everyone getting a medal for everything, because there could be no winners who were better than the rest. But I think a lot of people exercised better sense in preparing their kids for the real world. Not all, obviously, but I'm not up for writing off any generation that way.

[rideforever]

Well, it's simply a reality that the western culture has plunged in the last 20 years.  Perhaps the roots were there before that.  And it seems to be that generation more or less who has the phoney values.  Why that should be I don't know, probably the environment and society their parents were in affected what they were taught.
And, such values make people fake and impossible to deal with, they have fundamentally phoney ideas about life, and so have little hope to improve the situation ... and the just make more ridiculous demands about life.

Isn't that really what the problem is with the current culture ... there is a group of phoney people making ridiculous demands on society, and have fundamentally unreal ideas about life.  It's impossible to connect to them, they become a severed sub-culture who are anti-life ... or liberals.  There is no communication with them.

They destroy everything they touch and never look back, it's as if they are wound up wrong.
Perhaps the parents of the millennials were simply watching exciting advertising on TV ... and then repeated that to their children, and that was their parenting.  And so the millennials are raised by phoney advertising were everything is just great.

Another possibility is that the parents of millennials achieved success in the service sector which rose in an economic wave ... which they didn't really deserve, they just happened to rise with the tide.  So the parents were just lucky and taught their kids, the millennials, that life is so easy.  Except that the wave didn't come for millennials.  And also that the parents, the boomer generation, had roots that were still hard working ... the values of hard work from the industrial revolution and the wars ... but the parents did not comprehend the value of that ... and so left that out of the parenting of millennials.
Which left the kids with large expectations, but no practical skills or work ethic or real world orientation.
The problem is that without wounds, without struggle and conflict and bloody knees, there is no connection to reality.  You just live in a head full of adverts.

 

[Tinfoil Hat]

How many folk of that age group do you come into contact with, to be basing your bigoted opinions on, Ride?

 

My kids are 17 & 26 (same dad btw, in case you're doing the maths ). My son, the 17 year old is classed, for reasons I'm not sure of, as generation Z, & my daughter is classed as a millennial. Am I just lucky that they, and their circle of friends are right good characters, and are good company to be around? 

 

 

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Tinfoil Hat

[Grumpy Owl]

1 hour ago, rideforever said:

Is there something very wrong with the millennial generation?
Are the problems we see today a result of this generation entering and taking positions of authority in society.

Society seemed to look very different 20 years ago, but rapidly a shift has happened in a generation.

Is there something badly wrong with that generation?

 

Its quite possible we are seeing the fruition of a corrupted education system. These people have gone through the indoctrination system of schools, colleges and university, programmed with 'progressive' ideology by the previous generation, and now they will set about doing the same to the 'next' one.

 

1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

No, Rideforever. My daughter's a millennial and is clever, industrious & and kind-hearted. All her friends that I've ever met have been lovely, without exception. 

 

On another site I look on, they're fond of blaming Boomers (my generation) for all the ills of the world.

 

I'm not in agreement. 

 

 

 

But on the other hand it is refreshing to hear coments like this, and it is important to not 'tar' the whole millenial generation with the same brush. After all, not all of them will have completely succumbed to their 'progressive programming', but as with anything those who make the most noise attract the most attention.

 

And with the 'OK boomer' meme, it is another example of 'divide and rule', where the younger generation have been 'trained' to blame the previous generation for all their woes.

 

This is the problem with 'identity politics'; everything is always 'somebody else's fault', and you end up with a series of 'blame games' with people choosing to become 'victims' rather than taking responsibility for their own actions.

[rideforever]

1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said:

'identity politics';

 

There is more though.  There has always been politics, just read Machiavelli or Plato.
But what the hell is "identity" politics.
It basically means that these people have no personal identity they don't really know who they are, because they were raised fake.
And so politics or society or media ... is a place where they vomit out their non-entity-ness.
It's not politics at all, but self-help or psychiatry.
It is not politics at all.
The meaning of "identity politics" is clear ... these people were raised in a way were they have not formed a basic human identity.
 

It's not a problem to have problems, to have things to learn and work your way up.
But the way this "generation" does not think it has any problems and so as they enter into industry they are attempting to de-humanise and de-reality-ise society.
There is even a new word "derealization", I hear it more and more these days.
 

Edited May 26, 2020 by rideforever

[Mikhail Liebestein]

5 hours ago, rideforever said:

Is there something very wrong with the millennial generation?
Are the problems we see today a result of this generation entering and taking positions of authority in society.

Society seemed to look very different 20 years ago, but rapidly a shift has happened in a generation.

Is there something badly wrong with that generation?

I don’t see that yet. I run a chunk of Europe for a fairly large business, and I am GenX only having just replaced a boomer. The more senior execs are still boomers.

 

That said, if you are talking influencers and trends then that is the Millennials. GenX was never a big enough group to be ‘cool’/‘sick’, and given the general nihilistic tendencies of GenX, I don’t think we even wanted that. 
 

I think the Millennials need another 5 years to start wielding power.

[awake]

7 hours ago, rideforever said:

there is a group of phoney people making ridiculous demands on society, and have fundamentally unreal ideas about life.  It's impossible to connect to them, they become a severed sub-culture who are anti-life ... or liberals.  There is no communication with them.

They destroy everything they touch and never look back, it's as if they are wound up wrong.

 

I agree. The way i see it is that they have something that they have been taught to protect. Self-interests when it comes to security. Because one of the biggest divides in todays society is job security and the bottom line. This way of life... money and materialism is failing, which is one of the main reasons why this corona bullshit has been put into place. If it were working we wouldn't have all the problems in the world today

[A_Grand_Tale_Of_Horror]

My biological, mental and stage age are so drastically different I span
generations like time spans space.

 

Confusing

[TruthSeeker27]

Well, I'm a Millennial (just). Was born in 94. I don't think there's anything wrong with us per se, but we do get a bad name almost everywhere because we are most closely linked to the horrible "woke" brigade. And not just that, we're also looked upon as being selfish and materialistic. In my eyes, we are among the most likely to believe the media and what "they" tell us. However, I don't believe we're the most stubborn. From my experience, it's the older generation who are most set in their ways. When presented enough evidence (and perhaps because we're more likely to research ourselves because we're more plugged into the web) we can have our eyes opened. I always knew in my heart that something was wrong with the world, I just couldn't put my finger on what it was. It was a long journey to my awakening, but I've finally arrived... But yes, the older generations (of all kinds) are most likely to never change their opinions, at least from my experience.

[rideforever]

8 hours ago, Mikhail Liebestein said:

GenX

I'm also GenX although I also reach back to tradition and the old ways.  GenX seems to me was rebellious energetic, cynical, and many things.  They had enough material, enough struggle and friction, to come to some good reality-based conclusions about life.

 

The way I see it, the real danger is having no friction because they you just live in bullshit-advertising land and turn up at work and think it's going to be like that ...  how else can you cope with the friction of real life, it's lethal to walk around with vacuous ideas.

Ultimately if people get enough friction they will learn, one way or another - no matter how you were raised and with whatever ideology, you just need to be pushed around enough and you'll work it out.
 

And all this weird phoney media we are subjected to ... is psychiatry, and maybe that generation is trying to get some friction some nutrition with their phoney culture ... plants don't stop growing even if they were raised in a bad way, they continue to grow ... and they try to get what they need from their environment ... one way or another.  And they need friction, so they make friction.

 

Another thing I notice is that younger people have less character in their face, they are any-body,  and their bone structure seems weaker ... I notice that for instance with Dune the movie, the difference in the faces and bodies of the original cast and the cast for the currently developing remake.  I don't know if that's due to the food have less nutrients in them.
I heard a yogi (Jaggi Vasudev) he was saying that he noticed that people in rural india, that their bone structure has been declining as long as he knew it.  They used to be bigger and stronger in the body.

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by rideforever

[Tinfoil Hat]

The many  youngsters (in the generations you castigate and dismiss) who I know through family and career encounters have enriched my life with their vibrancy and thoughtfulness in the main, and are a credit to their hardworking boomer parents. There are probably some on this forum - and thank goodness for that, because they seem to display better sense, shrewd character, and less divisive arrogance than some I could mention. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by Tinfoil Hat

[kj35]

My kids fit into this bracket and are exceptional people. All very different all aware. Some taken in by woke. Others not. But all questioning narrative in a way gen x didn't when at their age not to the same global way. They have better communication links for info than we ever did. They absolutely spot the fakeness of influencers- just calling that shallow brigade that name was enough for them to question it. 

 

I think the cabal have trouble ahead with the millenial generation and gen z'ers.  They might be being taken in with woke at the minute but what the cabal have inadvertently done is made that generation as a whole ( not small groups of 'intellectuals') question the official narrative.

[rideforever]

These days people talk about "the information", the "truth movement" ... and so on.
In my opinion this completely misses the point.

Real goodness comes from the body, from the regulation of the subconscious body.

Humans are so desperately in their mind they imagine they have no body and it makes no difference.

As longs as they get more eye-candy they don't even notice if they have cancer or destroy the planet.

So ... the young indeed have vast quantities of "information" ... but they have no body, no being, no conscience no contact with the Earth.

Many people talk about what's wrong with people with society with politics and whatever.

But almost universally they are lost in their heads, which they adore, more head talk more information more staring at the screen.

But actually something hidden is that it is those practical people with well regulating straight living physical lives ... it is them that are connected to reality and from that ground of basic truth ... ontop of that is the Path built.

Whilst the many who gates are wide open and pour data through their eyes into their brains and talk intellectual all day long ... they are going precisely nowhere, they have no ground no roots no soil ... it goes in and goes out and nothing happens.

This is barely recognized in society which the whole disaster.

Except in the Tao Te Ching where it says that a good ruler should empty minds and fill bellies and strength bones.

That is actually the way to bring heath to society.

From tilling the Earth.

But people are lost in their mad minds, almost everyone.

.. therefore those kids that are plugged in are certainly not the answer.

I was shocked to discover who Elon Musk had married, some celeb called "Grimes" who has weird tatoos on her hands and long black fingernails, and their new kid is being called ... "X AE A-Xii".
One is truly lucky to get the hell out of this place.

 

[kj35]

Yes but they are being told to meditate. Do yoga. Mindfulness. They think they are being 'on trend' .That way the subconscious will start talking to them. No woke movement  or cabal can stop that.