The Importance of Beauty

[EnigmaticWorld]

One thing I will say, it makes a big difference when things are taken care of. If you compare the communist blocks of East Berlin to the Russian ones, there seems to be a lot of difference.

 

 

[greatdayforfreedom]

2 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 

The Ludivico Medical Facility.  Soon they will be rehabilitating conspiracy theorists back into society with aversion therapy with eye drops whilst strapped to a chair and forced to watch David Icke films.

 

Forced to watch BBC news 24, without being able to blink.

Edited May 25, 2020 by greatdayforfreedom

[rideforever]

(thought I posted this)

I love the Royal Festival Hall it's a beautiful building with 5 or 6 floor, fantastic balcony, vast space with sofas and tables and corners bars cafes and restaurants for anyone to meet and it's just great.

But it costs money to make it like that, a lot of hardwood is used there and high quality fixtures and fittings, and huge space.

 

But the quickly erected concrete shells can be used to make ugly sterile cheap housing ... you can call it "modernist" ... but it isn't.
Because human beings excel at twisting things, and using the same words whilst corrupting what lies behind, you have to be specific.

 

 

[Tinfoil Hat]

On 5/25/2020 at 9:06 AM, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

Here, I've found a picture of the thing that offends my senses dauly...

 

 

Maybe it's just me & it's a personal taste thing.

 

I'll have to take back my tirade about the above local blot on the landscape, as my son advised me today that there's shrubbery being trained up this structure. Granted, it's been there for a good few years, and there's not much evidence of greenery, but the intention is apparently there, which puts a different complexion on it.  

Edited May 26, 2020 by Tinfoil Hat

[Truthspoon]

The Search for Beauty

 

 

 

The search for beauty is the preoccupation of every human and living creature in this material world. We search for beauty outside of ourselves for what is within we fail to appreciate and generally take for granted. It seems for most of us, that we must seek personal happiness and validation outside of ourselves. 

 

And so we venture further into materialism and further from the source of personal wisdom. We can never ‘know’ another person as we know ourselves. We can never achieve wisdom from another person because knowledge and awareness lies within our own consciousness. Some of us corrupt what is within, due to a lack of insight or personal damage of some kind, and what is within themselves appears rank and poisoned and the inner beauty is lost. 

 

So we project our love and desire outside of ourselves, like plants reaching their leaves to the sun, we hope to find sustenance and a purpose for living in someone else.

 

This makes no sense spiritually because the person in whom you are trying to find this beauty is also looking for the same thing in you, yet the fact that both of you are looking for something which you lack, in someone else, means neither of you possess what you are searching for, because if you did you wouldn’t have to look for it in others.

 

Superficially, women are attractive and men are handsome, yet this only appears to be the beauty they are searching for, but it is only a configuration of physicality, it is more materialism. It has no deeper meaning and is only a cipher for beauty but not the real thing. The attractiveness and charm which some see in others is often enough to make them love them, but rarely is it enough to make the person possessing these qualities love themselves to the point of self completion.

 

The person having the qualities of attractiveness or charm knows that these things are not the real person they are, yet they seem sufficient to make the other person love them. These things are merely tools to enable the person to obtain emotional, sensual, material or financial security. But love is the dream, but it comes from within the self. 

 

Why is another person needed to produce a feeling which originates within the self?

 

What is love?

 

Love is a form of attention. Love takes the attention from ones own personal inner problems and gives one something to focus on outside of the self.
 

But what happens when attention goes outward? The material world expands and grows as the all knowing inner being reaches out into the void.

 

The reality is short lived because true love requires timeless understanding and a still mind. Within a human relationship these things are unobtainable in this world which by definition is constantly in flux and full of a thousand distractions. There are financial pressures, communication failures, misunderstandings. It is easier to find love in yourself and keep it there than it is to search for it in someone by reaching across the void to another consciousness. 

 

Why reach across the void at all?

 

So we all reach out of ourselves because we feel dissatisfied with our own inner beings, and we seek to expand our inner light into the darkened void. The consequence of this is human reproduction, which is actually a form of entropy, or widening chaos. Materially, having children is natural, from a spiritual perspective however it is not.

Reproduction is the consequence of our failure to find God, it is a consequence of a spiritual hunger for completeness which we think the material world can solve for us. But it cannot, it can only offer the temporary excitement of desire followed by a slow loss of the self at the expense of assuming a role as head of a family.

 

We fracture and divide ourselves. And so from the original harmony we have ‘difference’, we have tribalism, peoples, nations, conflicts, wars which are inevitable when different universes occupy the same world. Reproduction is shattering the hologram into a thousand more holograms. Marriages are not easy and often fail because eventually we realise that we can never really find love outside of ourselves, except as a kind of dozing domesticity, but if we really look into ourselves we will realise that what we were looking for was inside us all along.

 

https://www.truthspoon.com/p/the-search-for-beauty-is.html

[MrA]

9 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

as my son advised me today that there's shrubbery being trained up this structure

 

[Tinfoil Hat]

16 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

 

 

Beautifulness  ...

[chocomel]

On 5/25/2020 at 4:24 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

A new thread about the importance of beauty and the decline in architecture. Why do we often create or build things that are an assault on our senses these days? Why can't people have surroundings that lift their spirits?

 

I thoughtt you have started 'how to put on a make-up' when I saw the thread title. 

 

What seems like a simple opening sentence is a deep question which can leads you to all sorts of rabbit holes.

 

What i've noticed is that all these modern architecture seems harmful to environment both physically and energetically and it's either done on purpose or that the architects who are designing new styles are vibrating low that anything they creates also vibrates at the same low energetic level. Does that make sense?

 

Older and ancient structures included geometric shapes and other characters which had purpose e.g. gargoyles, stained glass etc...

It makes sense to create building with geometric shapes in mind because on a higher level, everything is geometric so if you create building based on that, it is harmonius whereas these modern inventions are rather abstractly shaped. Remember, what is considered 'beautiful' usually contains the golden ratio, be it a photography, paintings, buildings etc.

 

Also worth mentioning is that it's not about model like face which is beautiful. Sometimes someone with a crinkly face can appear beautiful as well.

It's what's coming out of that person e.g. vibration. And if that person lives according to the law..... god's law (without being religious btw) then they are harmonious and again you would perceive it as beauty.

Edited May 26, 2020 by chocomel

[chocomel]

On 5/25/2020 at 6:16 AM, zarkov said:

Interesting - I have been dwelling on this for while - more so recently!

 

It is evident that beauty occupies and elevates the mind, changes the perspective and contemplative nature of perception, allowing thought to progress from subsistence and the pragmatics of survival to the more adventurous possibilities that fill our dreams beyond the everyday.

Beauty in all forms snaps the mind out of the mundane and raises awareness to new levels that can shape civilisations and lead to the evolution of the mind and more.

 

I fully agree with your take on architecture - most modernist architecture is appalling, lacking in imagination, coining descriptions like purity as if to compensate somehow.

Brutalist architecture for me is the worst offender but I am sure that context could persuade me that there might be some examples of worth. Frank Lloyd Wright made a better effort of balancing hard elements but his success architecturally speaking was because he focused on horizontal features which naturally claim affinity to landscape format so sat well and made better use of golden section ratio.

When visual elements are broken down to their most simple you have the line. It is a conceptual element that does not exist in reality, but is used to define shapes patterns forms planes edges and outlines etc.  You can take a straight line between 2 points and the information required to describe that line in basically 2 points as for example a vector and the connection between. When a curve is created, you have infinitely more information contained within the line & with each progression along the curve a new piece of information is presented or is required. Much of contemporary architecture is now formed of straight lines, cold hard sterile and devoid of meaningful intent or sympathy for the surroundings or for that matter those who use inhabit and interact with those spaces.

The impact on people (by intent I believe) is greater than immediately perceived and certainly reflective of the paradigm shift we now see in people who characterise deflation, apathy, compliance, defeat, acceptance etc.

The jarring, jagged abrasive and aggressive hard edged sharp pointed and bold coloured graphics in advertisements esp TV is most notable!

There are exceptions of course and they stand out.

But generally the environment does now feel hostile & soulless in many respects!

Look at our town and city centres! Character and variety replaced with mirrored facades and glass frontages with bland structure-less expanses of nothingness! Soul destroying.

Our grandparents would feel lost, homeless.

 

90% of communication is visual.

The straight line does have a use however and that is to balance and contrast (as a foil) with the curve. within reason !

 

Very good point you've picked up as well.

Of course, if you live in a house or work in an office which is shaped brings harmonious energy, you'd feel more motivated, happy and be creative. That's what humans are supposed to be, not like being a robot and slaves. Badly designed buildings bring discord and disharmony that people who are housed in it would feel depressed, anxiety and ill etc...you get my point.

I guess from the elites point of view, the more people feel depressed etc...to bring more negativity in the environment, the better... Better for the pharma industry, better for depopulation programme etc. You only have to study Feng Shui to understand this. The science of asia is quite interesting which also involves directions (NWSE). Traditionally, river always brought wealth to the city which is nearby. Water is considered the symbolism of wealth and London is a good example. After all, you call money....currency...current.

[chocomel]

On 5/25/2020 at 7:41 AM, Storm in the garden said:

I remember when I was at school a loooong time ago, and a teacher pointing out that in traditional architecture windows get progressively smaller the higher they go.

This gives the illusion of more space in a street as the buildings seem to be "leaning away" and the street opening up.

However in modern architecture all the windows in a building are the same size giving the street  an impression of closing in on people and claustrophobia.

He's right because if you walk down an old style and a new style street of around the same width and building height, the older street seems more open (provided you bother to look up obviously which is not what most people do nowadays).

 

On a related subject...What's the reason behind gargoyles?

Why are they on so many old buildings of power......government buildings, churches, banks, stately homes etc.

They obviously have significance and are sending a "message".

Why else would so many buildings be designed to incorporate something so ugly and non-existent in the real world?

Why not something pretty like an antelope or a horse ....or a fluffy bunny?

 

Gargoyles on buildings are supposed to ward off evil.

If you put a scary looking devil on your building, devils would be repelled.

I guess it is very unlikely that your bunny would protect you but run off.

Having said this, lions are quite common thing placed at the gate in China.

Horse would have a different meaning.... Probably, again, not the sort of thing you want to place.

Study symbolism to get the answer you seek.

[EnigmaticWorld]

On 5/25/2020 at 10:20 AM, Given To Fly said:

i can understand styles changing but when you look back at certain architecture, material designs and clothing do you not cringe ?

 

I think there are some styles of architecture that are timeless. The pagodas in Asia for example, they will always look nice to me, no matter the year. Obviously this is subjective though.

 

Yes, most items of clothing haven't aged well at all, but a few others that have remained in style since their inception, although cuts and styles change like you say.

 

On 5/25/2020 at 10:20 AM, Given To Fly said:

watch pre 90's or maybe even pre-80's TV shows and films.  a lot show in what in today's standards is dilapidated buildings and just plain unhygienic areas.

what was the mindset back then ? surely it couldn't be indifference to it.

 

Depends if it's about the cost to maintan, or if it was a poor design that was destined to become unhygienic because of poor design decisions.

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

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[EnigmaticWorld]

 

[Fluke]

 

Narration Sir Roger Scruton. Worth checking out his talks on architecture and beauty as he breaks it down well. There was a clip from a documentary of graffitied walls and Roger quoting something like "and who can blame the vandals, for these buildings were designed by vandals" 

[EnigmaticWorld]

1 minute ago, Fluke said:

 

Narration Sir Roger Scruton. Worth checking out his talks on architecture and beauty as he breaks it down well. There was a clip from a documentary of graffitied walls and Roger quoting something like "and who can blame the vandals, for these buildings were designed by vandals" 

 

Yeah that quote was in the Sir Roger Scruton vid that I posted, and I agree.

 

"RIP Sir Scruton, you have left this Earth perhaps when we needed you the most." - A Youtube comment

[peter]

On 5/25/2020 at 6:40 PM, Oakwise said:

Beauty's only an illusion

Here your truth is an intrusion

A mirage is all it's ever been

It may be an illusion like everything else ,but beauty sends  peoples hearts a flutter, it may be a person a place , pet or object, it doesn't matter what it is but when you are there your happiness and sense  of well being elevates , it may be an illusion granted, but the illusion of beauty is much much preferable  to the illusion of shit. 

[Tinfoil Hat]

When I used to taxi my daughter to her wealthy mate's house in a rural area, I noticed that as soon as we reached the greenery, my blood pressure dropped and I felt calm and contented. There were pheasants and rabbits visible about the place, and a sign on a small bridge over a stream read, "Caution, frogs crossing".  

[Tinfoil Hat]

Going on the theme of architecture / music / art / entertainments all being uglified (I made that word up) to repress vibration, here's another example of the lunacy purporting to be 'art'. 

 

 

Grimes will legally sell her soul as part of a virtual art exhibit titled 'Selling Out'

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/grimes-sell-soul-virtual-art-exhibit

 

 

That reminds me, some of the trafficked children were transported under the label of 'Art', I remember seeing recently.

 

Edited May 31, 2020 by Tinfoil Hat

[Jnana]

Speaking of beauty in the world, nice haircut David!

 

#bringbackthemullet

[EnigmaticWorld]

I shared info on this when the story was breaking, but I was just wondering whether this will still happen now. No doubt the iconoclasts that are tearing down statues will say the nice classical style is too oppressive looking now and we will just get more post modernist junk.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Brad the lad]

Great post and missed it the first time around...

 

 I was in Italy 25 years ago and passed an OAP working from a tiny shop. He was carving fireplaces from wood with very basic hand tools. I was blown away at the time and could have watched his skill for hours. None of my friends seemed that bothered and was pulling me away because they all wanted to move on quickly. I also remember walking around the side streets in Venice and admiring the architechture in everything. Peoples garden gates were a thing of beauty there. Very inspiring and very uplifting to live around.

 

In contrast to Italy and just 2 years later with the same group I was in Sofia in Bulgaria. What a contrast. Grey buildings, no grass, concrete slab everywhere. It pulls you down and makes you depressed just being there.

 

The surroundings we live in have a huge impact on our well being. Art ,nature,colour and texture are all linked with the senses. Disconnecting us from them is just another weapon!

[EnigmaticWorld]

7 minutes ago, Brad the lad said:

Great post and missed it the first time around...

 

 I was in Italy 25 years ago and passed an OAP working from a tiny shop. He was carving fireplaces from wood with very basic hand tools. I was blown away at the time and could have watched his skill for hours. None of my friends seemed that bothered and was pulling me away because they all wanted to move on quickly. I also remember walking around the side streets in Venice and admiring the architechture in everything. Peoples garden gates were a thing of beauty there. Very inspiring and very uplifting to live around.

 

In contrast to Italy and just 2 years later with the same group I was in Sofia in Bulgaria. What a contrast. Grey buildings, no grass, concrete slab everywhere. It pulls you down and makes you depressed just being there.

 

The surroundings we live in have a huge impact on our well being. Art ,nature,colour and texture are all linked with the senses. Disconnecting us from them is just another weapon!

 

No likes left, but agreed.

[EnigmaticWorld]