The Importance of Beauty

[Oakwise]

2 hours ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

So are you saying that it would make no difference to you whether your window looked out on a field of poppies swaying in the morning sunlight or a slab of concrete from the apartment opposite? just asking..

 

No, I'm not saying that. 

 

I would much prefer to see a field of poppies swaying indolently in the breeze. 

[Storm in the garden]

58 minutes ago, rideforever said:

 

This is everything you have been taught and everyone in the UK (and elsewhere) was taught.
Taught to distrust and destroy in yourself your avenue of growth and to worship that which will destroy you.
You have repeated it 100% correctly like a slave.
You should be much more cynical and skeptical than this.

 

 

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.

However I fail to see how my opinion that the conscious decision by the elite to remove people from nature has been somehow brainwashed into me?

I've never been taught it, told it or read it.

The very idea of removing people from nature and cramming them into big cities so they can be monitored, controlled and brainwashed is fundamental to the implementation of Agenda 21/30. Are you a supporter of Agenda 21/30?

I already have my own avenue of growth which is living in harmony with nature and not being dependent on any god or otherwise for guidance or instruction.

 

[Dawn Richardson]

Because Freedoms are being eroded, Cultures and Arts are being reduced. Music has all but stopped in its tracks. Music from the past is what we now enjoy. The music died in 2000..

Does anyone know about OASIS? Don't Mean the Musical Group

[Orange Alert]

3 hours ago, Given To Fly said:

i can understand styles changing but when you look back at certain architecture, material designs and clothing do you not cringe ?

 

watch pre 90's or maybe even pre-80's TV shows and films.  a lot show in what in today's standards is dilapidated buildings and just plain unhygienic areas.

what was the mindset back then ? surely it couldn't be indifference to it.

 

 

In comparison it is now souless, sterile and global identikit corporate blandness.

[Dawn Richardson]

CONCRETE REMINDS ME OF THE 1940'S Germany.

[rideforever]

16 minutes ago, Storm in the garden said:

I already have my own avenue of growth which is living in harmony with nature and not being dependent on any god or otherwise for guidance or instruction.

 

This is a perfect way to live for an insect, because an insect has no conscious intelligence ... and it would seem that many human beings prefer to live like that than to learn how to be conscious.  It is not easy to learn because it is easier to be a slug, and only strong pressure can work to make you conscious.

Atheists have many opinions about belief and God and the church ... all stemming from never going in and doing what is asked.

But of course there are many bad things happening everywhere.

If you don't comprehend yet ... you are slowly dying and one day will be coughing blood shitting yourself and choking to death, like all of us.
I suggest you make much more of an effort, because what does this atheist world give to you ?
Nothing.
Yes nature is good ... but it is a lower world.

There is no morality that you should follow and there is nothing that you should or should not do .... because learning does not work like that.
In the church you practice various things and slowly you come into knowledge, it takes time and works on the physical, emotional, energetic and psychological level ... slowly growing.
There are no rules to follow ... people who talk like that are Atheists who have no idea what the church is about.  People don't go to follow rules.
They go because by going the feel something higher inside them, inside they introspect, they share, they love, they pray, they attempt to commune with a "higher world".  They are good people.
Even if some of them are more robotic and go out of habit ... well at least they have the small amount of common sense to do something that may lead somewhere, it is either that or chopping off your genitals and destroying the ecosystem like "society" is doing.
At least they have that much sense in their heads.
 

[Orange Alert]

Just now, Dawn Richardson said:

CONCRETE REMINDS ME OF THE 1940'S Germany.

+1

The National Theatre on the Southbank in London is it a Nazi submarine pen or a costal defence battery.

 

[Dawn Richardson]

 

 

Guernsey 1940's

Edited May 25, 2020 by Dawn Richardson

[Dawn Richardson]

Angular Ugly 1970's DESIGN Southampton

Edited May 25, 2020 by Dawn Richardson

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

 

Brunel University, Uxbridge. I went on a short course there about 30 years ago. No wonder it was featured in A Clockwork Orange.

[Given To Fly]

16 minutes ago, Dawn Richardson said:

CONCRETE REMINDS ME OF THE 1940'S Germany.

 

the FBI headquarters is concrete ugly. it's very prison-like with them window holes

[Orange Alert]

5 minutes ago, Dawn Richardson said:

 

Below the Alton Council Estate, Roehampton, SW London or is it a hardened Nazi installation with a flak tower and underground communications centre?

 

[Given To Fly]

34 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

In comparison it is now souless, sterile and global identikit corporate blandness.

 

they are more attractive now, imo, but as you say they're soulless. the mentality hasn't changed despite the aesthetic.

 

and of course styles do change, i mean i'm sure we all had shoddy hair-dos/cuts back in the day

[Heavenman]

The beauty of nature Vs The ugliness of the ARCHontic nightmare.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dawn Richardson]

A lot of people don't need to worry these days.about haircuts.

[awake]

Those buildings look much stronger than some of the crap that gets built in Aus. Not everywhere but there's plenty of cardboard boxes with tin rooves and awful colour schemes. Let's not forget the shit layout designs where nothing is logical.. especially hospitals and shopping centres

Edited May 25, 2020 by awake

[Orange Alert]

18 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

 

Brunel University, Uxbridge. I went on a short course there about 30 years ago. No wonder it was featured in A Clockwork Orange.

 

The Ludivico Medical Facility.  Soon they will be rehabilitating conspiracy theorists back into society with aversion therapy with eye drops whilst strapped to a chair and forced to watch David Icke films.

[Dawn Richardson]

I'd rather live in a wooden lodge, made of logs.

[Orange Alert]

20 minutes ago, Dawn Richardson said:

A lot of people don't need to worry these days.about haircuts.

 

Many look like Grant Mitchell nowadays.

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by Orange Alert

[Given To Fly]

24 minutes ago, Dawn Richardson said:

A lot of people don't need to worry these days.about haircuts.

 

5 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

Many look like Grant Mitchell nowadays.

 

 

believe it or not here in derry in work it was said that back before the troubles in n. ireland there were hardly any bald men about. it was because of whatever gas/substance used on rioters by police and the army that made more people bald and thus same with offspring.

Edited May 25, 2020 by Given To Fly

[Storm in the garden]

29 minutes ago, rideforever said:

This is a perfect way to live for an insect, because an insect has no conscious intelligence ... and it would seem that many human beings prefer to live like that than to learn how to be conscious.  It is not easy to learn because it is easier to be a slug, and only strong pressure can work to make you conscious

 

Interesting choice for comparison.... insects and slugs.....not a lion or a horse or an antelope or an eagle no?

I'm perfectly conscious thanks, partly because I'm capable of free thought and haven't been subject to the ramblings of a man in a frock from an impressionable age who tells me that a supreme being has been conversing with him.Well actually I have been subject to those ramblings, it's just been so long ago that I almost forgot. However when I reached the age of reason (7 or 8) my intelligence kicked in.

I don't know how old you are but in my formative years organised religion was an intrinsic part of the curriculum, so to suggest that I was brainwashed by the system for my beliefs is actually laughable because I formed my opinions contrary to the system of the time.

 

50 minutes ago, rideforever said:

There are no rules to follow ... people who talk like that are Atheists who have no idea what the church is about.

 

Really? There are no rules in organised religion???

Wow, it must have changed quite a bit since I was a child. What religion is this that has no rules? Tell me more...

You presume I'm an Atheist. Could I be an agnostic? Or could I believe in a god but not in organised religion? 

 

1 hour ago, rideforever said:

They go because by going the feel something higher inside them, inside they introspect, they share, they love, they pray, they attempt to commune with a "higher world".  They are good people.

 

You forgot the part where throughout history they have consistently killed people who weren't of the same opinion, or who may have believed a slightly different version of the same opinion. 

 

1 hour ago, rideforever said:

. you are slowly dying and one day will be coughing blood shitting yourself and choking to death

 

You are attracted to the dramatic, aren't you? I think you may need to give the old hellfire and brimstone a bit of a rest for a while because it's consuming you.

I may die in the rather graphic way you have described but hopefully not, and hopefully not for you either.

I'm presuming that you're probably a Christian but irrespective of what organised sect you belong to the same applies...

You are only a Christian because you were indoctrinated from a young age by your parents, teachers and religious leaders.

Had you been raised in India you would instead be a Hindu, if raised in Iran you would be Muslim, in Tibet a Buddhist, or in Israel a Jew.

Therefore the one true god you fervently believe in would be a completely different god to the one you believe in now.

So essentially your god of choice is really only a matter of simple geography.

 

[rideforever]

19 minutes ago, Storm in the garden said:

organised religion

 

You repeat like a photocopier all the words phrases images and reasoning of the matrix, by the way.
The very phrases themselves ... perhaps you don't see it.
Most people do, and they think they have free will.
That is the whole problem.

Good luck all the same.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

2 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

 

Brunel University, Uxbridge. I went on a short course there about 30 years ago. No wonder it was featured in A Clockwork Orange.

 

Very depressing architecture like Thamesmead, which was also in that movie.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

The Hulme Crescents in Manchester were some of the ugliest things I ever saw. Human beings living in concrete boxes. Crime was off the scale, most of the people living there were on antidepressants, and it was a hunting ground for the Yorkshire Ripper when he crossed the Pennines. They are now gone but it must have been hell on earth living there.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Very depressing architecture like Thamesmead, which was also in that movie.

 

My course was in the summer so it softened the ugliness some but to my eye, it was as if the architect hated humanity. Same with the National Theatre on the South Bank.