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2 hours ago, Fluke said:

Then don't support it. Sanctimonious people like you are the reason extremists are created. Stop patronising people and let people make their own minds up. 

 

Maybe you should take your issue up with David or maybe interview him? I'm sure he wouldn't but you never know he might even agree to it.  

 

It's not worth bringing your vibration down for someone like him.

He's digging his own hole as we speak righ now. When it is deep enough, I'll shoot out my psi and he'll fall into the hole. I have discovered that I have a unique talent. 😉

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In relation to the the first post in this thread by stride. Would like to say that for a while now before the new forum, I was trying to find ways to sign up. All I typed each time in a google search was “Join David Icke Forum.” This always led me to a link on the the old forum but no help in signing. I noticed that as soon as I created an account in the last few days, that every time I checked from interest my previous google search it was directing me to the page in Strides link.  Maybe Google’s  trying Trying to re-educate me😀

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18 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Copyright violation is completely different to 'censorship'. 😄

 

Look, I know myself and some other members here do have doubts and suspicions about Brian Rose and his integrity and intentions.

 

If you want to share your concerns about Brian Rose and London Real, then please feel free to do so.

 

If you have any concerns about David Icke and his ideas and materials, then as has been pointed out already according to the forum guidelines, please present your case in a mature and sensible way, so that other members here can debate your points.

 

Posting 'silly videos' here isn't going to win you many friends, and neither will attacking other members and/or forum staff.

 

 

Using copyright systems to take down fair use criticism videos is censorship.  London Real are famous for it. 

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20 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Copyright violation is completely different to 'censorship'. 😄

 

Look, I know myself and some other members here do have doubts and suspicions about Brian Rose and his integrity and intentions.

 

If you want to share your concerns about Brian Rose and London Real, then please feel free to do so.

 

If you have any concerns about David Icke and his ideas and materials, then as has been pointed out already according to the forum guidelines, please present your case in a mature and sensible way, so that other members here can debate your points.

 

Posting 'silly videos' here isn't going to win you many friends, and neither will attacking other members and/or forum staff.

 

 

For context, that clip that London Real took down just showed David Icke talking about Dr Kyle Sidell in Rose/Icke 2 and misquoting the doctor as saying "its not an infectious disease" or something to that effect, then I showed what Dr Kyle Sidell REALLY said about it being "viral" and the doctor talking about how he recommended full PPE etc. I also pointed out that sidell clip David put up on this site was edited, with audio cut off, and it was renamed to present a false narrative. (original clip name was "COVID19 is not ARDS") I then linked to the Doctors official channel and showed the full clip for context. 

 

This was all well within fair use and it only used about 1 minute of london reals content, but of course it showed Icke had lied about the doctor, so it was taken down.  

 

I have watched hours of Dr Kyle Sidell, and not once anywhere did he ever even imply this is not a virus or not infectious.

 

 

 

  

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I have be requested via PM to clarify my point on kyle sidell and my video that got taken down. So this is all in reference to what David Icke claimed in Rose/Icke 2. 

 

This is just a SMALL example of the type of stuff I found when I researched david ickes sources. This is not a point I would have lead with , but it came up so here goes.

 

To understand what is going on here, You need to realize there is a difference between SARS-CoV2 (virus) and COVID19 (Symptoms/Disease), You need to understand how Icke was twisting words here or simply getting it very very wrong. Actually Dr. Cameron Kyle Sidell was talking in technical terms to other ICU doctors about the way ventilators were being used to treat the DISEASE and symptoms. He never once in any interview implied anything like its not a virus or its not infectious, he was talking about the disease not the virus.

 

In the sidell clip that Icke chose for his site, The doctor is saying its not ARDS but Icke tried to flip that into - its not a virus , its 5G, When the doctor says at one point "this disease is not COVID19" . Once again he is talking about the disease and it's symptoms in technical terms to other ICU doctors, he is not talking about the virus or whether it is infectious. 

 

So in Rose Icke 2 at 1hr 2minites 30 seconds found here https://freedomplatform.tv/the-coronavirus-conspiracy-how-covid-19-will-seize-your-rights-destroy-our-economy-david-icke/ David implied that Dr Cameron Kyle Sidells video backed up his claim there was no virus, he claimed the doctor said "its not infectious disease" and was implying that the doctor was saying its not a virus... You only need to watch the first 10 minutes of Rose/Icke2 to see that David is completely mixing up the virus with the disease at every point in this interview. Watch for yourself and see how wrong he gets it.

 

Keep in mind David Icke is claiming to have spent day and night and almost every waking moment researching this virus/disease. So either he didnt research it very well.. or he was trying to confuse the virus and disease on purpose..I do not know TBH...any thoughts here on why he did not seem to know the difference?  

 

I suspect David genuinely does not understand the difference between COVID19 and SARS2, For example At 6minutes 15sec in Rose/Icke 2 you can hear him refer to the virus as COVID19,  at 8 minutes 10 sec he says the RT-PCR test "doesn't test for COVID19"..He is obviously confusing the virus with the symptoms. or maybe he hoped his viewers did not understand the difference. Either way he took Dr. Cameron Kyle Sidell completely out of context with this mistake.

 

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At 3 minutes 45 seconds in Rose.Icke 2 David Told viewers to go to these videos https://davidicke.com/2020/04/06/vital-videos-watching-david-ickes-london-real-interview-today/  . Now when I originally made my debunking video back in April, Icke had linked to another youtube video of Sidell that was edited, cut short, and did not show the bit where Sidell says its "viral".. Also the clip was renamed to remove the reference to ARDS. 

 

Do not forget that David Icke could have linked to the doctors own official channel here and the original clip here if he had wanted... https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNgMagm3-NwKdfGiXp8WILg  Why did he not do this? IMO because that would have given viewers too much info as the doctor had about 10 videos talking about this virus and it's treatment. Lots of those are gone now, I do not know why. I still have some here. 

 

Anyway, Since then the ickes have got a different clip up of sidell on davidicke.com, but at least it shows everything from that clip, including the bit where he says it seems like a "viral" induced disease.

 

The original video on the doctors channel was called "COVID19 is not ARDS"...but since then the doctor has renamed it to "FROM NYC ICU: DOES COVID-19 REALLY CAUSE ARDS??!!" to clarify I assume.

 

This clip is now the only one on the drs channel. I do have copies of other clips downloaded which I could upload if needed, but there are plenty of interviews available with him on other channels,  and you will never see Dr Kyle Sidell say/imply/hint that this is not a viral induced disease once. I promise you that. 

 

 

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 For example here he is with a few other ICU doctors talking about COVID19 for over an hour and 30 minutes, they talk about PPE and how much is needed etc. They all agree that FULL ppe is needed. They are not talking about this like its not infectious once, and Siddell never has even slightly implied anything like that. 

 

 

 

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l'm noticing that there's not a lot of interest or responses yet. (l'm not surprised) You appear to have spent an enormous amount of time obsessing and analyzing these videos.
lt's not easy to comprehend what it is exactly you are implying despite reading and re-reading several times.
Regardless of your claimed points, are you stating that Covid-19 is a real pandemic, a disease more deadly than any other similar type of virus, one that we should ruin the worlds economies over ? One that we should isolate over, one we should wear masks for, one that will only be cured by an official vaccine ?
Are you trying to suggest that everything the W.H.O. - Bill Gates - World Governments and MSM are telling us is totally correct and absolutely true ?

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As I've said elsewhere Corona is not an easy enigma to crack ... the problem being the subject is very specialized and we are reliant on data from suspect sources ... 

 

I have certainly not made up my mind to what extent it's real .... David does present a good case that it doesn't exist , but he's the only person who believes this ... Could it be he's gone too far? ... Could it be Rose is only giving him a platform because he's made a mistake on this ....

 

The two most reliable sources on the planet Bartzis and Mollison both say the virus is real and recommend masks and social distancing .... They also say one of the main goals is to crash the economy  ...

 

It's also clear masks are to  muzzle us , reduce our oxygen and  drive us all crazy ... But what you gonna do if there is a real plague??? Dammed if you do , Dammed if you don't ....

 

I return to Mollison who has spoken much on this issue , he says the virus is real , ET engineered with the goal of killing half of us , destroying the global economy and civilization ... and vaccines are tainted.   

 

We still have the issue of the small number of deaths ... Even believing official figures these are very low , and  no worse than a flue outbreak .. so how is it going to kill half of us ??? The ET's behind this are very smart and are playing with us ...easing us into the nightmare with a weak virus which has already induced terror in many ... at anytime the virus could "mutate" .. and the ET's replace it with a real killer !

 

There is a way out ... Pray for Divine Intervention ! 

 

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1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

l'm noticing that there's not a lot of interest or responses yet. (l'm not surprised) You appear to have spent an enormous amount of time obsessing and analyzing these videos.
lt's not easy to comprehend what it is exactly you are implying despite reading and re-reading several times.
Regardless of your claimed points, are you stating that Covid-19 is a real pandemic, a disease more deadly than any other similar type of virus, one that we should ruin the worlds economies over ? One that we should isolate over, one we should wear masks for, one that will only be cured by an official vaccine ?
Are you trying to suggest that everything the W.H.O. - Bill Gates - World Governments and MSM are telling us is totally correct and absolutely true ?

You, too, have confused the virus with the disease. SARS-COV2 is the virus (infectious) and COVID 19 is the disease (symptoms).

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12 hours ago, downtherabbithole? said:

You, too, have confused the virus with the disease. SARS-COV2 is the virus (infectious) and COVID 19 is the disease (symptoms).

Is that right? 

You sign up - don't introduce yourself - jump straight into this thread and make presumptions about my 'confusion'.. and then disappear again. 

That's not suspicious at all is it..?

Either you're a fellow 77th team member or a sock account. 

You seemed to be the confused one here. 

You're confused about the abilities of forum members to see through your juvenile BS. 

 

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12 hours ago, downtherabbithole? said:

You, too, have confused the virus with the disease. SARS-COV2 is the virus (infectious) and COVID 19 is the disease (symptoms).

it doesn't matter,the question is why did the goverments "take" a common cold and make a plandemic/scandemic out of it....

 

if you can't comprehend that, ask your superior ti clarify to you

 

clearly you are on need to basis 

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Just like everyone else I imagine, my first reaction was to sign up  and point out the error of their ways but after about 5 min of reading their posts ,I thought why bother as it became apparent that these minds are permanently closed and as such any train of thought out side the bounds of CNN's 9 o'clock news is strictly off limits, therefore it will be  ridiculed into submission without the faintest of thoughts like, what if.

Then you have to look at the number of posts some of the characters have made , it's obvious they they all value their own opinion and quite frankly they're welcome to them

 

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2 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

it doesn't matter,the question is why did the goverments "take" a common cold and make a plandemic/scandemic out of it....

 

if you can't comprehend that, ask your superior ti clarify to you

 

clearly you are on need to basis 

Not really sure why all the vitriol towards me. I merely pointed out that people are confusing the terms used. I have no hidden agenda, and certainly don't work for the government. I thought this forum would have discussions, but all I have been subjected to is abuse.

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3 hours ago, screamingeagle said:

it doesn't matter,the question is why did the goverments "take" a common cold and make a plandemic/scandemic out of it....

 

if you can't comprehend that, ask your superior ti clarify to you

 

clearly you are on need to basis 

 

Exactly!  

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On 5/24/2020 at 10:47 PM, awake said:

 

Of course they did

 

We may not be able to completely avoid google but we can certainly stop using their search engine as the first "go to" for searching. In other words, stop supporting them too

 

DuckDuckGo

StartPage

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Qwant Lite

I used duck duck before and changed to web crawler which is now in cahoots with google I think , I've been trying to go back to duck duck go but for the life of me ,it wont let me change back

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On 7/27/2020 at 8:39 PM, Basket Case said:


lt's not easy to comprehend what it is exactly you are implying despite reading and re-reading several times.
Regardless of your claimed points, are you stating that Covid-19 is a real pandemic, a disease more deadly than any other similar type of virus, one that we should ruin the worlds economies over ? One that we should isolate over, one we should wear masks for, one that will only be cured by an official vaccine ?
Are you trying to suggest that everything the W.H.O. - Bill Gates - World Governments and MSM are telling us is totally correct and absolutely true ?

 

I am implying that David Icke does not know the difference between the virus and the disease, or at least at the time of Rose/Icke 2 he did not understand the difference. 

 

I am implying the SARS-CoV2 virus is a real thing that exists.

 

I am not "trying to suggest that everything the W.H.O. - Bill Gates - World Governments and MSM are telling us is totally correct and absolutely true ?"

 

 

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On 7/27/2020 at 8:44 PM, screamingeagle said:

and also would you take the vaccine london fake ......asking out of the curiosity

 

No, Not a fan and would be worried its not safe. But on the other hand I do not think it has nanobots in it and I do not think it is going to sterilize 97% etc etc.

 

There is a big difference between thinking David Icke is wrong about the existence of viruses, and believing everything MSM or Bill Gates says. they are just two sides of the same coin .. TPTB have a story to suit every type of mind.  

 

Basket Case: For more clarification on what I am Implying.. I am saying David fabricated the quotes he attributed to Dr. Cameron Kyle Sidell about it not being infectious.. You could argue that Icke was paraphrasing.. But not once did the doctor even slightly hint that he did not think this is a virus.. 

 

This is very important point and I can show a pattern of this type of misleading..  For example Icke also implied that Dr. Andrew Kaufman showed a link between EMF/5G and exosomes... In reality Kaufman was very clear that he could find no research on a link between EMF/5G and exosomes, even though he said he really really tried to find some.

 

 

 

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