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I saw something this morning that opened my mind, in a certain way.

 

Trump tweeted "Pro Life" "Vote".

 

Then someone (presumably a lady) replied with: "No uterus, no opinion" Not very classy, but very relevant.

 

This led me to the conclusion that men have absolutely no say regarding a woman's body, especially when it comes to making and enforcing laws. Women in power need to make pro or anti-abortion laws. Men should stay out of it.

 

Also, for a long time i have been against men being gynecologists. Only women should be gynecologists. It just makes sense. Women understand women bodies. Men should stick to men's health.

 

Common sense people. There should be more of it.

 

 

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Someone else's body is no one else's business. Anymore than someone should be able to tell you that you have to get a vaccination to save other people's lives.

it's difficult to pontificate on this topic unless you're the one in that position but since the question was asked i would not oppose abortion in cases of rape, incest and if the mothers' life was in

I'm generally pro life, but not sure where I stand on babies born from rape and stuff. I understand decisions that women make are not easy.   The ones that glorify abortion are evil though.

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On 10/6/2020 at 9:20 AM, QuodHumana said:

This led me to the conclusion that men have absolutely no say regarding a woman's body, especially when it comes to making and enforcing laws. Women in power need to make pro or anti-abortion laws. Men should stay out of it.


When I was pregnant I took a blood test that screens for Down Syndrome and other chromosomal abnormalities and common birth defects. (Used to be done by risky amniocentesis).


I asked my husband what he would say if it came back positive.  He said he would compel me to abort the baby.  I was distraught because I didn’t want to kill it no matter what.  I loved it even then.  I was torn because he said he didn’t want to raise a child with problems.  
 

The test came back negative. 
 

Do you think the father should not have a say in matters like these? 

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1 minute ago, Michi713 said:

Do you think the father should not have a say in matters like these? 

 

The unique instance of a physical form, created via the joining of you and your partner, is a part and responsibility of both of you.

As to the 'human' which you and your partner have created, you both have equal 'say' in the matter.

Yes, the women takes the vastly greater risk as to gestation and birth, but the man is meant to act as a provider and protector not just within that time period but for ALL of the life of the child and mother.

 

Such is the nature of this realm as it is for a human form.

 

The inhabiting 'spirit' (which is not human) is another consideration?

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11 minutes ago, Michi713 said:


When I was pregnant I took a blood test that screens for Down Syndrome and other chromosomal abnormalities and common birth defects. (Used to be done by risky amniocentesis).


I asked my husband what he would say if it came back positive.  He said he would compel me to abort the baby.  I was distraught because I didn’t want to kill it no matter what.  I loved it even then.  I was torn because he said he didn’t want to raise a child with problems.  
 

The test came back negative. 
 

Do you think the father should not have a say in matters like these? 

 

I'm generally pro life, but not sure where I stand on babies born from rape and stuff. I understand decisions that women make are not easy.

 

The ones that glorify abortion are evil though. There was a video I watched a while back where women were singing about abortion on some bus as they went to get abortions. I wanted to cry for humanity.

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3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I'm generally pro life, but not sure where I stand on babies born from rape and stuff. I understand decisions that women make are not easy.

 

The ones that glorify abortion are evil though. There was a video I watched a while back where women were singing about abortion on some bus as they went to get abortions. I wanted to cry for humanity.

The women getting pregnant from rape is a false narrative. Women don't get pregnant from rape.

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2 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:

 

He's a dick. The Torah forbids it. Exodus 1:

 

15 Then the king of Egypt said to the Hebrew midwives, one of whom was named Shiphrah and the other Puah, 16 “When you serve as midwife to the Hebrew women and see them on the birthstool, if it is a son, you shall kill him, but if it is a daughter, she shall live.” 17 But the midwives feared God and did not do as the king of Egypt commanded them, but let the male children live. 18 So the king of Egypt called the midwives and said to them, “Why have you done this, and let the male children live?” 19 The midwives said to Pharaoh, “Because the Hebrew women are not like the Egyptian women, for they are vigorous and give birth before the midwife comes to them.” 20 So God dealt well with the midwives. And the people multiplied and grew very strong. 21 And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families.

 

Theres a certain kind of "religionity" in every religion which only has pretensions of being at one with God. They dont even believe in God or religious morality but just like their "science says", "the law says", and every other false flag they use to gain their misplaced power, they turn religion on its head and all the sons and daughters of the kingdom have is the sign of Jonah that Google is not their God. Babylon seeks that level of power, not for the sake of liberating the sons and daughters of the kingdom of heaven but to keep them prostrated before the enslavers, never knowing their heavenly treasure.

 

You ough to see my website https://auranos.org/sub/

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How the Abortion Debate Displaced Economics on the G-7 Agenda

 

"Much of the behind-the-scenes focus revolved around the push for abortion, which explains

 how economic discussions got relegated to the back seat. As awareness has grown regarding the intersection between women’s empowerment and the economy—a worthy recognition—so, too, unfortunately,

has the push for radical agendas, unrelated to the economy. 

 

In 2018, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau created a new body, the Gender Equality Advisory Council, and gave it the power to present recommendations on gender issues to the G-7. That mechanism allows abortion activists to influence participating governments with a veneer of legitimacy, in a bid to build the case for an “international human right” to abortion. In a show of brazen disregard for governments, the Gender Equality Advisory Council published its recommendations in a 54-page document rife with controversial “reproductive rights” references—and emblazoned with the G-7 insignia, falsely giving the impression of official endorsement."

 

More here

 

https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/09/17/how-the-abortion-debate-displaced-economics-on-the-g-7-agenda/

 
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You know I wouldnt mind a public law to temporarly sterilise supporters of killing babies. I feel its other peoples babies they want to kill. Temporary sterilisation could be reviewed yearly for people promoting this kind of murder as some 'social good' during which time they are expected to attend courses demonstrating that their support for the killing of babies is a very serious wrongdoing whether the government permits it or not. If they take on board what they are taught then the temporary measures can be released as they will not be a risk to the lifes of these most vulnerable members of 'society' (an association of friends - who dont kill one another for a start). Let the murderers of babies die out in a cruel slow genocide against their ideology which is itself the greatest genocide of all.

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2 hours ago, Steph said:

He's a dick. The Torah forbids it. Exodus 1:

 

15 Then the king of Egypt said to the Hebrew midwives, one of whom was named Shiphrah and the other Puah, 16 “When you serve as midwife to the Hebrew women and see them on the birthstool, if it is a son, you shall kill him, but if it is a daughter, she shall live.” 17 But the midwives feared God and did not do as the king of Egypt commanded them, but let the male children live. 18 So the king of Egypt called the midwives and said to them, “Why have you done this, and let the male children live?” 19 The midwives said to Pharaoh, “Because the Hebrew women are not like the Egyptian women, for they are vigorous and give birth before the midwife comes to them.” 20 So God dealt well with the midwives. And the people multiplied and grew very strong. 21 And because the midwives feared God, he gave them families.

 

Theres a certain kind of "religionity" in every religion which only has pretensions of being at one with God. They dont even believe in God or religious morality but just like their "science says", "the law says", and every other false flag they use to gain their misplaced power, they turn religion on its head and all the sons and daughters of the kingdom have is the sign of Jonah that Google is not their God. Babylon seeks that level of power, not for the sake of liberating the sons and daughters of the kingdom of heaven but to keep them prostrated before the enslavers, never knowing their heavenly treasure.

 

You ough to see my website https://auranos.org/sub/

Jews run the abortion movement. This fact. I just tried 3 different search engines to look for sources but they've all been scrubbed from the search results so I need more time to dig them up. Research is getting hard with all the censorship going on.

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(((Rebecca Gomperts))) (born 1966) is a doctor based in Amsterdam and is the founder of Women on Waves and Women on Web, which provides reproductive health services for women in countries where it is not provided. In 2013 and 2014, she was included in the BBC's 100 Women. In 2018, she founded Aid Access, which operates in the United States. A trained abortion specialist and activist, she is generally considered the first abortion rights activist to cross international borders.

Oprichter abortusboot: 'Mijn hoop is dat abortus uit het strafrecht  verdwijnt' | Het Parool

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(((Gloria Marie Steinem))) born March 25, 1934) is an American feminist, journalist, and social political activist who became nationally recognized as a leader and a spokeswoman for the American feminist movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Steinem was a columnist for New York magazine, and a co-founder of Ms. magazine. In 1969, Steinem published an article, "After Black Power, Women's Liberation", which brought her to national fame as a feminist leader.

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2 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:

(((Gloria Marie Steinem))) born March 25, 1934) is an American feminist, journalist, and social political activist who became nationally recognized as a leader and a spokeswoman for the American feminist movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Steinem was a columnist for New York magazine, and a co-founder of Ms. magazine. In 1969, Steinem published an article, "After Black Power, Women's Liberation", which brought her to national fame as a feminist leader.

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The satanists in control like abortion because of killing and it helps the depopulation agenda.

 

The morning after pill is available in most western nations. The morning after pill is better than a termination weeks or months down the line. 

 

People have to be more responsible about contraception, but they are not encouraged to do so by the State nor media.

 

A friend of mine wrote the following words. He thinks Margaret Sangster was a male to female transender.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

The morning after pill is available in most western nations. the morning after pill is better than a termination

weeks or months down the line.

 

^^^ This ^^^

 

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2 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:

(((Gloria Marie Steinem))) born March 25, 1934) is an American feminist, journalist, and social political activist who became nationally recognized as a leader and a spokeswoman for the American feminist movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Steinem was a columnist for New York magazine, and a co-founder of Ms. magazine. In 1969, Steinem published an article, "After Black Power, Women's Liberation", which brought her to national fame as a feminist leader.

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2 hours ago, Lord Humungus said:

(((Gloria Marie Steinem))) born March 25, 1934) is an American feminist, journalist, and social political activist who became nationally recognized as a leader and a spokeswoman for the American feminist movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Steinem was a columnist for New York magazine, and a co-founder of Ms. magazine. In 1969, Steinem published an article, "After Black Power, Women's Liberation", which brought her to national fame as a feminist leader.

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Gloria Steinem is a Jewish witch.

 

Here she is recently with Meghan Markle.

 

 

 

 

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A friend of mine wrote this.

 

"There is no collective social pressure being brought to bear on women by men who en mass are shirking their responsibility for the rearing of children they have conceived and even if there was it could not account for the alarmingly large number of abortions millions of women throughout north America, Europe, the Antipodese and Scandinavia undergo each year. In all of these 'first world' territories every kind of contraception may not only be obtained from any drug store, pharmacy and supermarket, but is provided free in many countries by government clinics and general medical practitioners who will also conveniently dispense the 'morning after' pill in an emergency to any woman or girl who might otherwise come begging for an abortion.

 

Women cite many reasons for having their pregnancies terminated, inevitably coersion by domineering husbands, common law spouses and boyfriends is one of them, but however contemptible and sorely condemned does not rank among the most common. Women are electing to have abortions with or without the knowledge of putative fathers and in spite not because of their wishes. The prevention of serious or irreparable damage to women's mental health is routinely cited by doctors as the reason for the vast majority of abortions. In the United Kingdom only sixteen abortions have been carried out to save the lives of women in the last ten years. A publicly unacknowledged social emergency exists for which men are not responsible and women will not be held accountable. Obviously, except for male doctors who carry them out, men (putative fathers) take no active part in abortions. Nevertheless, by way of social osmosis most men are at least vaguely aware that women regard them as morally culpable for the abortion of babies (even when they are against it) and implicitly expect men to shoulder the blame or at the very least share the shame of bearing silent witness to the obscenity of abortion on an industrial scale. Crucially, if men are guilty of anything, it is their abject failure to communicate to their mothers, wives, sisters, daughters and women in general any serious misgivings or enduring concern for the vast and rapidly escalating number of abortions carried out year after year. According to a UK Department of Health report, 207,384 abortions were carried out on women living in England and Wales in 2019, the largest number since the 1967 UK Abortion Act was passed.

 

Margaret Sanger, crypto male to female transgender impostor and founder of Planned Parenthood (America's largest for profit operated chain of abortion clinics) was a eugenicist notorious for his disdain for the poor, disabled, racial minorities and African Americans in particular. In Sanger's dystopian plan called the American Baby Code published by American Weekly Magazine in 1934 article no.1 states, 'The purpose of the American Baby Code should be to provide for a better distribution of babies to assist couples who wish to prevent overproduction of offspring and thus to reduce the burden of charity and taxation for public relief and to protect society against the propagation and increase of the unfit.' Sanger proposed that marriage licenses be issued to couples who would then have the right to establish 'a common household', but no concomitant right to parenthood. Article no.4 of the code states, 'No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child and no man shall have the right to become a father without a permit for parenthood.' Taking into consideration his preoccupation with race it is hardly surprising that Sanger accepted an invitation to give a speech to an organization that shares that preoccupation, the Ku Klux Klan.

 

In his 1938 autobiography Sanger reminices on how well he got along with members of a New Jersey branch of the KKK and how as a welcome consequence received invitations to speak to like-minded groups. Naturally, the KKK was impressed by Sanger's Negro Project which was designed to reduce the number of African American babies born. The year following publication of his autobiography Sanger wrote to Clarence Gamble (a director of Planned Parenthood, heir to the Proctor and Gamble soap fortune, eugenicist and founder of Pathfinder International which promotes the use of contraception in the United States and sixty other countries) about the Negro Project saying, "We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the negro population and the (reverend) minister is the man who can straighten that idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." In Sanger's book, Woman and the New Race published in 1920 he declares, "The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Since legalization in 1973, 61 million abortions have been carried out in the United States. In 2019, 42 million abortions were carried out worldwide"

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