Deca Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: i'm currently reading: Psychic Self-Defense: The Classic Instruction Manual for ProtectingYourself Against Paranormal Attack it gives a brilliant insight into how most or some of these occult crimes are played out. Right if you think it's a psychic/Paranormal attack and not by technology ..then please stop claiming to be a TI .. our claim about man made technology ok ....which is backed up by declassified technology like V2K a microwave hearing effect .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: Clearly you don't understand the James Tilly Matthews case and how mental health professionals try to use it to discredit present day claims of being TI`s Edited May 25, 2020 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Deca said: Right if you think it's a psychic/Paranormal attack and not by technology ..then please stop claiming to be a TI .. our claim about man made technology ok ....which is backed up by declassified technology like V2K a microwave hearing effect .... your comprehension sucks. i said " most or some". of course it is also technology based, but it is also occult based. maybe they are different Targeted Individual groups and aspects of violation but to me it seems you are deliberately undermining the occult and spiritual warfare of it despite innumerous TIs experiencing thus. why would you ever want to make out that they are mentally ill ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Deca said: Clearly you don't understand the James Tilly Matthews case and how mental health professionals try to use it to discredit present day claims of being TI`s you haven't shut up about being a TI but have provided no evidence ever of being one yourself. i don't want your name, address or anything identifying, but you sit there spitting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deca Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: your comprehension sucks. i said " most or some". of course it is also technology based, but it is also occult based. maybe they are different Targeted Individual groups and aspects of violation but to me it seems you are deliberately undermining the occult and spiritual warfare of it despite innumerous TIs experiencing thus. why would you ever want to make out that they are mentally ill ? simple understand Dr persingers "god" helement plus how they would use such a technology https://www.wired.com/2007/12/the-voice-of-go/ Quote It appears that some of the troops in Iraq are using "spoken" (as opposed to "screeching") LRAD to mess with enemy fighters. Islamic terrorists tend to be superstitious and, of course, very religious. LRAD can put the "word of God" into their heads. If God, in the form of a voice that only you can hear, tells you to surrender, or run away, what are you gonna do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) My scan Report Edited May 25, 2020 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oddsnsods Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Deca said: James I think drew that picture himself .... it's a very interesting story James Tilly Matthews and the Air Loom https://mikejay.net/james-tilly-matthews-and-the-air-loom/ " Matthews was a literal double agent, too: a man whose confinement in Bedlam had been the last act in a drama of diplomacy and espionage that had already seen him incarcerated for several years in France as a counter-revolutionary spy. James Tilly Matthews was a tea-broker, originally from Wales, who found himself, in London in the late 1780s and early 1790s, swept up in the movement for progressive political reform. He had accompanied his republican mentor David Williams on a visit to visit Paris in the winter of 1792. Williams, along with a handful of British republicans that included Tom Paine and Joseph Priestley, had been proclaimed a citizen of the new French republic, and had been invited by the revolutionary government to assist them in drafting a constitution. But the timing of their arrival was fraught: the trial of Louis XVI had begun, and France and Britain were edging towards war. Matthews, driven by a combination of ideological passion and political naivety, became a self-appointed peacemaker, undertaking secret diplomatic missions across the Channel to persuade both governments to abandon their sabre-rattling and forge an alliance. Matthews may have been a novice at such cloak-and-dagger affairs, but he was persistent and ingenious. He drafted peace proposals and new constitutional arrangements, and presented them to the British Prime Minister William Pitt and the French Foreign Minister Jacques-Pierre Brissot. Even when the rush to war swept his initiatives aside, he refused to abandon his mission. He persisted with his peace proposals until he was arrested in Paris by the Committee of Public Safety in late 1793; he spent the next three years, throughout the height of the Terror, under house arrest and in prisons. Returning to Britain in 1796, he began a letter-writing campaign against the British government, attempting to hold them to account for abandoning him to the enemy and accusing them of increasingly far-fetched conspiracies. Receiving no reply, in December 1796 he interrupted a debate in the House of Commons to accuse the government minister Lord Liverpool of treason, as a result of which he was arrested and confined in Bedlam. Here, perhaps, through the succession of traumas, arrests and confinements that came to swallow up Matthews’ life, we can glimpse how the Air Loom might have made its entrance." Yes, good read & this guys story is very interesting, considering he is the first man to be labelled schizo & describes trauma based mind control. Is too much of a coincidence for me to write off. Everything about his story stinks of psyop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) On 5/24/2020 at 7:36 PM, Deca said: that's high profile people diplomats... harassment is not unusually for them... have you not watched any spy movies? Plus in this high tech surveillance day and all the information they can get remotely via your mobile and internet access they don't need to be anywhere near you. When we are talking about the former East Germany, then it has been officially established that something close to 20% of the population were working for the Stasi, in one capacity or another. If that regime hadn't ended, then I think it is ludicrous to suggest that they would have now solely switched to online harassment. This is because many folks still live in the real world existentially. They aren't going to have deep online relationships with their neighbours or work colleagues. It wasn't only high level diplomats being got at either. It was your average Joe Public, like many of us, who just happened to be a bit outspoken! Zersetzung is currently active in the U.K. and it is only getting worse. On 5/24/2020 at 10:45 PM, Deca said: you just blame some mythical group with unlimited man power and resources that all your neighbours and family and friends would just go along with... and have this ability to do this without leaving any objective evidence and this has no psychological impact, social consequence and does not effect your mental capacity... good luck with that... Firstly, the PTB do have unlimited resources! Nowadays, in the U.K., I would say it is mainly neighbours over family and friends. They will also try to move some perps in close to where a target lives, as well as influence existing neighbours. On 5/24/2020 at 11:07 PM, Given To Fly said: here's my twitter account: https://twitter.com/_jammer_ when the new forum arrives i will go into more detail about my experiences. I could have written a book, by now, if I had been inclined to. On 5/24/2020 at 9:14 PM, oddsnsods said: No there is only one as always everyone else is crazy accept Deca the victim. Some times I wonder and some times I am sure. There is more than one on this thread. Disagreement is cool though. Edited May 25, 2020 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, numnuts said: When we are talking about the former East Germany, then it has been officially established that something close to 20% of the population were working for the Stasi, in one capacity or another. If that regime hadn't ended, then I think it is ludicrous to suggest that they would have now solely switched to online harassment. This is because many folks still live in the real world existentially. They aren't going to have deep online relationships with their neighbours or work colleagues. It wasn't only high level diplomats being got at either. It was your average Joe Public, like many of us, who just happened to be a bit outspoken! Zersetzung is currently active in the U.K. and it is only getting worse. Sorry its was more like 2% plus they had a large number of informants .... again with modern surveillance techniques ..plus the raise of smart tech and social media ...BIG DATA etc they just don't need so much of the 1960/70`s style stasi approach also where the independent objective evidence ? 3rd party witness ...for such a large scale operation you expect a lot of supporting evidence for this outdated man intensive form of harassment ...where is it ????? (plenty of peole have CCTV spy cams....cams on their phone burglar alarms etc ..once you realize there NONE ...you have to ask yourself why do so many people believe/report this ???? ...like I have said a lot is because of the psychological impact , effects and social consequence .... Quote Firstly, the PTB do have unlimited resources! Nowadays, in the U.K., I would say it is mainly neighbours over family and friends. They will also try to move some perps in close to where a target lives, as well as influence existing neighbours. again where is your evidence ??? wouldn't some of your friends and family say F**k that and actuals tell you ....and then support you !!! ...why does that not happen !!!! don't think it would more cost effective just to zap you with a beam from satellite or mobile phone tower and screw you over ... "gangstalking" is stuck in the 1960`s .... it would just be a dumb way of doing things these days also we have the JTRIG documents ....why know how they fuck people over How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/ Quote I could have written a book, by now, if I had been inclined to. Some times I wonder and some times I am sure. There is more than one on this thread. Disagreement is cool though. Edited May 26, 2020 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Deca said: again where is your evidence ??? wouldn't some of your friends and family say F**k that and actuals tell you ....and then support you !!! ...why does that not happen !!!! ssshhhh all. this apparently is deca in the top left: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: ssshhhh all. this apparently is deca in the top left: you do know that I been posting on the DI forum since 2007 about mind control & electronic harassment .... and my thread on the subject on the last forum had over a million views .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Deca said: you do know that I been posting on the DI forum since 2007 about mind control & electronic harassment .... and my thread on the subject on the last forum had over a million views .... be that as it may but jeepers you're full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: be that as it may but jeepers you're full of shit. Have you got any actual objective evidence for your "belief" in gangstalking .....because that is what you need as it's seen as a false belief by the system and society "extraordinary claims needs extraordinary evidence" Now I have come up with and explanation why people getting zapped would believe /describe things that would sound very similar to "gangstalking" but can be explained by understanding things like psychological impact, effects and social consequence ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Deca said: Have you got any actual objective evidence for your "belief" in gangstalking .....because that is what you need as it's seen as a false belief by the system and society "extraordinary claims needs extraordinary evidence" Now I have come up with and explanation why people getting zapped would believe /describe things that would sound very similar to "gangstalking" but can be explained by understanding things like psychological impact, effects and social consequence ... yeah so 999 plate vehicles gangstalking me in close proximity, i.e. in my street where i live and the street behind me and just around the corner and on my daily routes all within a mile radius isn't enough to raise suspicion and yes i have been zapped also. it is spiritual warfare. they want me to know that i am surrounded and cause me to give in. wont happen. Edited May 26, 2020 by Given To Fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Given To Fly said: yeah so 999 plate vehicles gangstalking me in close proximity, i.e. in my street where i live and the street behind me and just around the corner and on my daily routes all within a mile radius isn't enough to raise suspicion and yes i have been zapped also. it is spiritual warfare. they want me to know that i am surrounded and cause me to give in. wont happen. cars driving around with 999 in the number plate is not uncommon ... how have you tested your belief that they only have these plates to some how harass YOU and what alternative explanations have you eliminated ... because you don't want to hold onto a false belief because they can claim you are delusional with it .....trying to prove your "not mentally ill" or "not delusional" because you are "gangstalked" does not work ...and generally proves to mental health works that YOU are and you have no insight into your mental illness and need immediate treatment also, you can't prove a negative ....so trying to prove you are "not mental ill" by using "gangstalking" which is seen as a false belief by society and the system is a dumb strategy ......proving that you are relativity sane , can look after yourself and that you have no intention on harming yourself others if a far better one .... Edited May 26, 2020 by Deca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deca Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 i am not a fan of Dr Phil, but he makes some valid points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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numnuts Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) On 5/26/2020 at 12:47 AM, Deca said: wouldn't some of your friends and family say F**k that and actuals tell you... and then support you!!! ...why does that not happen!!!! Um, because I was talking about neighbours maybe? Edited May 31, 2020 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Step into the light Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 On 5/22/2020 at 8:34 PM, Dawn said: Wow, super helpful thank you. That manual covers the sadistic methodology I’ve experienced 100%. But still...I don’t think they are physical people. (Even though they can touch you). I drove 2000 miles round trip and experienced gang stalking at every stop. I would stop at an empty gas station to use the restroom in the middle of nowhere, and by the time I came out, there would be twelve people lined up at the register all staring at me. Yet, only two more cars in the parking lot.. That kind of thing... My landlord now sit in his truck by the mailboxes all night long with his headlights on, blocking the road if I were to try to exit.. Every time I start to meditate my neighbor will start up a power tool or his dogs will start having a fit. My family calls/texts purely to sow fear. Under the guise of concern they will ask me about every single thing I’ve ever been anxious or insecure about. And really....I could go on and on and on with examples. The scope of the operation would really have to be absurdly large. Did they really recruit my family, friends, neighbors, dogs, deploy round the clock surveillance, and get 400 people organized to stalk me from LA and back? No. They have to be some sort of projection/hologram/program/AI/ET etc. An electronic distortion of my limbic system perhaps? The double slit experiment definitely comes to mind...things don’t seem to spring into action until I show up and look at them... And the less time you give them to prepare... the sloppier it gets. After I noticed it was going on there isn't one person I look at that doesn't seem to be involved. The more I looked into it thinking i could expose them and blatant calling them out in the street the more the situation seemed to worsen. When I learned to just be quiet it did seem to stop being so destructive although I still notice there still observing me for choice of a better word.. Had plenty of evidence that was on sim cards and stored on laptop only for the sim cards to have been emptied and laptop to go corrupted. I do wonder what the point to it is, not sure if it's a case of simply peeing them off as when I think of it I think it's been going on all my life. My family all seem to be in on it and only ever seem to be interested in gaining info out of me. My partner too I'm sure is in on it. There must be some way of putting a end to this nightmare. It's like living in your own movie and you seem to be the star of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elongated1 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) On 5/22/2020 at 8:26 PM, labrats said: They wouldnt have to, they just have to convince everyday citizens and turn them into Nazi spies In my experience of having it done to me and consequently learning how it can be done, I can tell you that you don't need to convince everyone. While people might suspect that they are using a high tech equipment to influence the mind of MK subjects etc.... I would say that that is only one way and not the only way. I can think of multiple methods, in fact, there is also a cheapest way it can be done. If someone wants to torment and harass you, then this is the 'safest' way because other people (unpaid and they wouldn't know that they are being manipulated) will do the work for you and there is no comeback. It is quite remarkable to see. I haven't had to use such methods but once I became aware of the programme, it is quite stunning to witness it happening in precision. Sorry I forgot to mention, there are many ways to stop it from happening too. Clue: Problem and solution are one of the same thing. Edited May 3, 2021 by elongated1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 12:32 AM, Step into the light said: After I noticed it was going on there isn't one person I look at that doesn't seem to be involved. The more I looked into it thinking i could expose them and blatant calling them out in the street the more the situation seemed to worsen. When I learned to just be quiet it did seem to stop being so destructive although I still notice there still observing me for choice of a better word.. Had plenty of evidence that was on sim cards and stored on laptop only for the sim cards to have been emptied and laptop to go corrupted. I do wonder what the point to it is, not sure if it's a case of simply peeing them off as when I think of it I think it's been going on all my life. My family all seem to be in on it and only ever seem to be interested in gaining info out of me. My partner too I'm sure is in on it. There must be some way of putting a end to this nightmare. It's like living in your own movie and you seem to be the star of it. Exactly. Best I can make of it, we are in some kind of challenge or training program simulation. In this reality, anyone can act as an agent of the matrix. The matrix seems to be omniscient..or at least pretends to be because it has access to all online communications as well as all face to face conversations you have. It is the matrix’s job to keep you from the truth. The truth (the light) destroys this false reality. This is mostly done by instilling fear and self doubt. Though, because the program just screws with you, rather than killing you... I have to assume that the point is to overcome the challenges you are presented with. I am starting to understand that although it takes the form of evil, that is not necessarily it’s nature. Showing you that your parents or your significant other work tirelessly squeezing you for information that can later be weaponized and used against you.... is actually doing you a favor. It’s letting you know it’s time to move on. After you let your old life and and old indoctrinated self fall away, new people worthy of your vibration are supposed to find you... But I guess I haven’t gotten to that part yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zusies Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 On 5/22/2020 at 5:57 PM, labrats said: https://www.targetedsurvivors.com/ This forum has also been hacked and locked out the poor Admin guy. That forum as fake and a planned set up by shane gibbs to make a patsy out of someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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