EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Makes me wonder what white hats are currently up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Italian museum tests using invasive camera technology to analyze visitors https://reclaimthenet.org/italian-museum-tests-using-invasive-camera-technology-to-analyze-visitors/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Viral video shows Malaysian police destroying 1,069 bitcoin mining rigs with a steamroller https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/19/malaysian-police-steamroll-1point25-million-worth-of-bitcoin-mining-rigs.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 You say you not sure we should go mad Max or not Enig? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: You say you not sure we should go mad Max or not Enig? Well I'm still not sure about full Mad Max as I'm not sure what will become of the vulnerable under a life of barbarity, but I think we should try and push the pendulum in that direction. Don't get me wrong though, I would prefer Mad Max than the world that TPTB are planning for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Well I'm still not sure about full Mad Max as I'm not sure what will become of the vulnerable under a life of barbarity, but I think we should try and push the pendulum in that direction. Don't get me wrong though, I would prefer Mad Max than the world that TPTB are planning for us. Too me thats your worst nightmare there & they paint it like the Nurse tik tok videos too. When they are stomping on your head for failing to comply... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 Just now, oddsnsods said: Too me thats your worst nightmare there & they paint it like the Nurse tik tok videos too. When they are stomping on your head for failing to comply... Agreed. At least you have a chance when it's every man for himself, but you're screwed in a world where you're getting hunted by machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 11 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Agreed. At least you have a chance when it's every man for himself, but you're screwed in a world where you're getting hunted by machines. just some fun stuff in this crazy times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 11 hours ago, oddsnsods said: You say you not sure we should go mad Max or not Enig? Very impressive mobility for a robot. It's interesting that the Salesforce guy slips in the "AI" line though with a definite 5-10 years. That's bollocks. This robot is very impressive but is completely dancing to algorithms programmed very much by human intelligence with very narrow parameters of operation. Let's take Tesla Autopilot as an example of artificially intelligent evolution. Approaching ten years of development it is IMHO way behind the initial promises. I've had cars with autonomous driving features. 60-70% of the time they worked, 29% of the time they were annoyingly wrong and I had to correct, 1% of the time they were dangerous! Yeah, we get the slick video and we're all crapping our pants and posting hollywood fantasies such as robocop to create fear about our futures. But this robot is a 60% working too. Let us see the documentary series of everyday life with this robot to understand its true level of autonomy if any, its power issues, how many takes before the good performance. Then let's crap our pants if it looks like robocop is achievable! Sorry, I'm ranting but we're shitting our pants over sales videos for products that IMHO will never exist. Definitely not in a finished product that matches the sci-fi ideal I think it's important to start realising what is actually possible and laugh at our ridiculous attempts to match the power of natural creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, screamingeagle said: just some fun stuff in this crazy times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, Daithi said: think it's important to start realising what is actually possible and laugh at our ridiculous attempts to match the power of natural creation. deception and inversion are the tools/tactics how the elite runs this society.... so it's expected that the A.I. will be advertised as superior and at the same time dangerous but all for the "benefit" of the humans and the society meanwhile people are working longer hours for less ect. jesss it's like all has been planed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daithi Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: This is one example of "AI" that is here and is damaging humanity at an alarming rate. There's a great documentary on netflix, "the social dilemma" that is a great intro to the evils of social media. The irony that I am recommending output of an organisation that employs just these tactics too is not lost on me! For those who want to dive deeper, lookup Supervised Learning online. Human slave armies are employed to tag vast databases with labels and then the computer programs chomp through this and identify patterms. They then also look at your behaviour and see which pattern categories you match and then they'll sell your soul to the highest bidder. The psychological damage that these algorithms inflict on the unwary is sad to witness. A true pandemic of our time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, Daithi said: This is one example of "AI" that is here and is damaging humanity at an alarming rate. There's a great documentary on netflix, "the social dilemma" that is a great intro to the evils of social media. The irony that I am recommending output of an organisation that employs just these tactics too is not lost on me! For those who want to dive deeper, lookup Supervised Learning online. Human slave armies are employed to tag vast databases with labels and then the computer programs chomp through this and identify patterms. They then also look at your behaviour and see which pattern categories you match and then they'll sell your soul to the highest bidder. The psychological damage that these algorithms inflict on the unwary is sad to witness. A true pandemic of our time Out of reactions too. The thing that woke me up a lot was photos. I remember when I used to use Facebook and my friends couldn't understand why I was worried as I never posted personal photos of myself. I wasn't as awake back then, but growing up on sci-fi, I knew something wasn't quite right and that it looked like some biometric dragnet. These people don't understand that even if you personally don't post photos of yourself so you can be read like an open book, someone else could and they could tag you in it. Even if you got the tag removed, it was still probably logged in some database to begin with. I'm not sure how it works these days though, maybe you have to verify the tag, just thought I would make that clear in case things have changed. Now the surveillance dragnet is becoming even more brazen with software like Clearview AI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: I'm not sure how it works these days though, maybe you have to verify the tag I believe it is also using geometric facial measurements of landmarks such as the eye positions and the nose etc. So at a level there is plenty to be worried about around privacy. But I don't believe that perfection in these systems is possible. I don't see any technology platform that could be deployed across the globe and track you in real time. That is still very hollywood imaginings rather than reality. A lot of the operation of these AI algorithms and neural nets is still very heavily dependent on humans on the back end peforming checks. In the developing world there are vast white collar sweat shops where people are paid a pittance to feed the neural network software with validated and prepared data. I.e. this stuff is not at the "matrix" level where computers can support themselves in building a vast virtual prison to enslave us. Instead the growth in capability is constrained by classical physics, Moores law and such and smoke and mirrors are being used constantly to make this stuff look far more menacing than it is. But we need to stay awake, even at the relatively crude level of achievement this tech is evil privacy destroying stuff. Worse, there will be many imperfections and outright frauds peformed in preparing and validating the models used, innocent people will be seriously fucked over by this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Daithi said: Very impressive mobility for a robot. It's interesting that the Salesforce guy slips in the "AI" line though with a definite 5-10 years. That's bollocks. This robot is very impressive but is completely dancing to algorithms programmed very much by human intelligence with very narrow parameters of operation. Let's take Tesla Autopilot as an example of artificially intelligent evolution. Approaching ten years of development it is IMHO way behind the initial promises. I've had cars with autonomous driving features. 60-70% of the time they worked, 29% of the time they were annoyingly wrong and I had to correct, 1% of the time they were dangerous! Yeah, we get the slick video and we're all crapping our pants and posting hollywood fantasies such as robocop to create fear about our futures. But this robot is a 60% working too. Let us see the documentary series of everyday life with this robot to understand its true level of autonomy if any, its power issues, how many takes before the good performance. Then let's crap our pants if it looks like robocop is achievable! Sorry, I'm ranting but we're shitting our pants over sales videos for products that IMHO will never exist. Definitely not in a finished product that matches the sci-fi ideal I think it's important to start realising what is actually possible and laugh at our ridiculous attempts to match the power of natural creation. Their so called 'smart' tech usually ends up a nightmare agreed, my car has a cruise control censor which I never trust as seems to brake very late & is always in bot racer mode. Still they can stick a camera in & bust your door down with machine guns is what bothers me..or send terminator drone swarms after you for being outside your designated gulag. This is the tech they are showing us. My point to Enigmatic from previous conversations was, this is devolution in the making with the transhumanist & quantumn AI beast coming rapidly down the pipeline, as well as Luciferase tatoo mark, we would be better going full caveman than bottomless pit, where you will wish for death but it wont be coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 20 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: this is devolution in the making with the transhumanist & quantumn AI beast coming rapidly down the pipeline, as well as Luciferase tatoo mark, we would be better going full caveman than bottomless pit, where you will wish for death but it wont be coming. That's a really well written paragraph. I think I am 100% onboard with you on your general point? This is also a great thread because I'm not so arrogant that my ideas will definitely play out! I see full caveman as being a good road for humanity from here. My growing feeling is that caveman life could be far more sophisticated and healthy than corrupt history has taught to us. It's a lifestyle that brings us into balanced harmony and collectively opens us back up to being free range, organic humans. Where I might differ from you is that for me the devolutionary bottomless pit is a choice based only on a fear porn pipeline rather than real quantum AI/transhumanist anything. I see this as continuing to hold true for the foreseeable future of humanity. That's my key point that I'm driving about AI and transhumanism. It's an idea with no tangible delivery beyond slick sales videos and contrived simple demos that deny the complexity of a real world product. I feel there is a schism forming already where the caveman crew are breaking away and building a parallel society. It doesn't feel like a revolution as it unfolds in my life, it is more a gentle evolution towards new, better ways of living. More and more MSM and sheeple wage slave existence is disappearing from my life. It feels like we all have a stark choice today between buying into the AI/transhumanist fear porn slavery or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Daithi said: I believe it is also using geometric facial measurements of landmarks such as the eye positions and the nose etc. So at a level there is plenty to be worried about around privacy. But I don't believe that perfection in these systems is possible. I don't see any technology platform that could be deployed across the globe and track you in real time. That is still very hollywood imaginings rather than reality. A lot of the operation of these AI algorithms and neural nets is still very heavily dependent on humans on the back end peforming checks. In the developing world there are vast white collar sweat shops where people are paid a pittance to feed the neural network software with validated and prepared data. I.e. this stuff is not at the "matrix" level where computers can support themselves in building a vast virtual prison to enslave us. Instead the growth in capability is constrained by classical physics, Moores law and such and smoke and mirrors are being used constantly to make this stuff look far more menacing than it is. But we need to stay awake, even at the relatively crude level of achievement this tech is evil privacy destroying stuff. Worse, there will be many imperfections and outright frauds peformed in preparing and validating the models used, innocent people will be seriously fucked over by this stuff. Well said, and even though I might enjoy watching things like the video below, I don't think they will ever give machines total power as they will find patterns and might turn on their master. I could be wrong, maybe the elites will slip up, but I don't see machines ever having power over all humans, just the average Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Daithi said: That's a really well written paragraph. I think I am 100% onboard with you on your general point? This is also a great thread because I'm not so arrogant that my ideas will definitely play out! I see full caveman as being a good road for humanity from here. My growing feeling is that caveman life could be far more sophisticated and healthy than corrupt history has taught to us. It's a lifestyle that brings us into balanced harmony and collectively opens us back up to being free range, organic humans. Where I might differ from you is that for me the devolutionary bottomless pit is a choice based only on a fear porn pipeline rather than real quantum AI/transhumanist anything. I see this as continuing to hold true for the foreseeable future of humanity. That's my key point that I'm driving about AI and transhumanism. It's an idea with no tangible delivery beyond slick sales videos and contrived simple demos that deny the complexity of a real world product. I feel there is a schism forming already where the caveman crew are breaking away and building a parallel society. It doesn't feel like a revolution as it unfolds in my life, it is more a gentle evolution towards new, better ways of living. More and more MSM and sheeple wage slave existence is disappearing from my life. It feels like we all have a stark choice today between buying into the AI/transhumanist fear porn slavery or not. Elon Musks Space X sky net sats launched during lockdown along with talk of his Neuralink implants & internet of things definitely happening, is not no scifi although Musk does bullshit a lot about his ideas & is no scientist atall, just a salesman. They are building the next level prison or Matrix by 2030, with a more manageable size population. Im not sure about all the graphene talk in the jab & hydrogel Darpa stuff. Elons technocrat grandfather tried to stage a coup in Canada, kinda like whats happening now. The passport being an obvious stepping stone to the chip. All they need is to go cashless (Quantum dot tattoo) like I say which will store your private key on for the blockchain that holds all your social credit. Herd you into the super city pods & total surveillance, to achieve zero carbon. They are already hacking DNA, that seems to be a big reason for them to jump in headfirst with the MRNA jabs..as they say its a revolution in therapeutics & will try & bring out a jab for all ailments so you never get sick, if you can afford it. ELion Musk one of the obvious front men also talks about add ons, so you can get employment in whatever field you like..if you can afford. Agree tho, their plans usually seem to fail hard with the AI, as is all greed based motivation for their tech. Why Farmer Bill is buying up all the farmland, so you will eat his synthetic meat & drink his poop water or starve. Maybe Klaus Schwab will let you have some roaches if you are a happy slave. All we can hope for when it comes to caveman post apocalypse if the jabbered start dropping, society go's into full meltdown & those left take out the Elites before they can restore order out the chaos. Cavemen would not be alien to their surroundings & dependant on eyephones, back on our spiritual path before the Elions invaded. Edited July 21, 2021 by oddsnsods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: They are building the next level prison or Matrix by 2030 For sure odds .... this is only 1600 of them (even over Antarctica .... that will wind up some lol) .... something like 46000 intended!! <<<< very soon :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 minute ago, ink said: For sure odds .... this is only 1600 of them (even over Antarctica .... that will wind up some lol) .... something like 46000 intended!! <<<< very soon :( One ring to rule them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daithi Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Elon Musks Space X sky net sats launched during lockdown along with talk of his Neuralink implants & internet of things definitely happening, is not no scifi although Musk does bullshit a lot about his ideas & is no scientist atall, just a salesman. They are building the next level prison or Matrix by 2030, with a more manageable size population. Im not sure about all the graphene talk in the jab & hydrogel Darpa stuff. Elons technocrat grandfather tried to stage a coup in Canada, kinda like whats happening now. The passport being an obvious stepping stone to the chip. All they need is to go cashless (Quantum dot tattoo) like I say which will store your private key on for the blockchain that holds all your social credit. Herd you into the super city pods & total surveillance, to achieve zero carbon. They are already hacking DNA, that seems to be a big reason for them to jump in headfirst with the MRNA jabs..as they say its a revolution in therapeutics & will try & bring out a jab for all ailments so you never get sick, if you can afford it. ELion Musk one of the obvious front men also talks about add ons, so you can get employment in whatever field you like..if you can afford. Agree tho, their plans usually seem to fail hard with the AI, as is all greed based motivation for their tech. Why Farmer Bill is buying up all the farmland, so you will eat his synthetic meat & drink his poop water or starve. Maybe Klaus Schwab will let you have some roaches if you are a happy slave. All we can hope for when it comes to caveman post apocalypse if the jabbered start dropping, society go's into full meltdown & those left take out the Elites before they can restore order out the chaos. Cavemen would not be alien to their surroundings & dependant on eyephones, back on our spiritual path before the Elions invaded. out of likes, good stuff, cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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