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The UK is a safe house for the proxy armies of the cabal IMO 

 

But do your own research into the network of spies and " Embassy " intrigues 

 

They will allow the leak of just enough info to make you think they are perhaps not as well established as they really are

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4 hours ago, Asmallperson said:

Well if you want to live in that sort of delusional mindset its up to you. What would you like for christmas, a lobotomy and sume rubber wallpaper?

 

Why would you want to believe its fake? is the real world too scary for you?

Shill exposed.  Old story of conspiracy person finds the world scary therefore believes in any old tosh, then come the insults.  Back to Tel Aviv with you.

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1 hour ago, smashstuff said:

Shill exposed.  Old story of conspiracy person finds the world scary therefore believes in any old tosh, then come the insults.  Back to Tel Aviv with you.

 

I'm out of likes ?

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11 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

 

Then they tried to unite everyone under the bee symbol after. Worker bees?

Yes. This has been bothering me. I'm  mank by birth (don't live there now but family does). Immediately after the bomb mum sends me a bee lapel badge.and everyone is getting bee tattoos? Had to look up why...Yes there were bees on bins and council stuff but it ( the bee symbol) wasn't a 'thing' not before this.

 

Any other Manks here?

 

I've not lived there for 20 years so I'm out of the loop a bit.

 

We didn't all rock up with bee tats after the IRA  bombs. We just enjoyed the new Traffy centre and said they'd done us a favour bombing the Arndale. :-)

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9 hours ago, kj35 said:

Won't do ! And was just trying to explain how weird bomb shock waves behave from a first hand experience before I watch x 

 

So, did you experience those explosions 1st hand kj35? I hope you weren't injured. I can imagine it would be terrifying.

 

People who were starting to dismantle the drum kit & stuff on stage said they just heard a bang which they thought was a stand falling down in this instance. The bombs you're talking about were more powerful, as they did a lot more damage to structures.

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12 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

One thing I don't hear people talk about much is the numerology.

 

It was reported that the suspect was 22, killed 22, on the 22nd of May at 22:33, at 2.24408626556396" W longitude.

 

22 is often said to be the master builder number.

 

Then they tried to unite everyone under the bee symbol after. Worker bees?

 

THE MANCHESTER BEE

 

"Throughout the Old Testament the Israelites are told that God will lead them into a land “flowing with milk and honey”. The bee was also an important symbol for the Freemasons who then governed Manchester. In Freemasonry the bee is a symbol of co-operation, that societies can only accomplish difficult tasks when they cooperate. St. John Chrysostom, the 4th century preacher, explained that “the bee is more honoured than other animals, not because it labours, but because it labours for others”.

 

http://www.newmanchesterwalks.com/news/the-manchester-bee/

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9 hours ago, Asmallperson said:

Well if you want to live in that sort of delusional mindset its up to you. What would you like for christmas, a lobotomy and sume rubber wallpaper?

 

Why would you want to believe its fake? is the real world too scary for you?

 

Why do you jump in expressing you opinions as though they were facts, without ever looking at the information that's being presented? Is it because you're scared that if you do examine it, your preconceived notions of the world will be shattered? 

 

9 hours ago, Asmallperson said:

Your doubt doesnt change truth. What this does prove is that you choose to live in a delusion. Thats your choice but all you are doing is clouding your mind.

 

Sorry, but it sounds a lot like you're projecting your own shortcomings on to others. Just because you proclaim something as the truth doesn't make it so. Particularly when you have the opportunity to present some basic evidence you claim to have, which would demonstrate knowledge and so sway opinion, but you refuse to. It suggests you're being disingenuous.

 

9 hours ago, Asmallperson said:

As if. 

 

All this is showing my is that you lot are prepared to listen to any shit that questions an official story and to dismiss the fact that people might actually know some of the victims.

 

 

 

No, I thought you wouldn't provide surnames, because it's apparent that you don't know them. 

 

All your posts are showing is that you are not prepared to evaluate evidence. 'Us lot' on the other hand were prepared to listen to your facts  for evaluation along as everything else, but instead of providing it, you have a tantrum. It begs the question, what is your motivation for joining a conversation in the 1st place.

 

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I shall engage with whomever I wish to thanks, A-Chan.

 

I forgot to mention the dodgy dude, Bickerstaff. He was wandering about, shouting his daughter's name and squealing with (pretend) alarm & commenting on people around him laughing but that they didn't know about the bodies and turmoil in the foyer. During this, he was filming himself on his phone, stopping briefly to look straight into the camera - like you would if you were frantically hunting for your child after an explosion, right? 

 

But from analysis of the footage, and it looks like he filmed that during the concert - i.e. with foreknowledge of the explosion. He's a crisis actor if ever there was one, and Richard tracked down his home and went there, but couldn't get him to talk.

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8 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

I shall engage with whomever I wish to thanks, A-chan.

 

You are welcome, to "feed a troll".

You just encourage them to continue trolling (you quoted them thrice).

 

What I wrote was a general request.

If people want to engage with trolls (and continue giving them oxygen) that is of course their choice.

 

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Just now, A-chan said:

 

You are welcome, to "feed a troll".

You just encourage them to continue trolling (you quoted them thrice).

 

What I wrote was a general request.

If people want to engage with trolls (and continue giving them oxygen) that is of course their choice.

 

 

That's your all your opinion, A-Chan, which is fine, but I will exercise my own judgment. (Those  3 quotes were all in 1 single post, by the way, and I can count).. 

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kj35:

 

I'm not a Manc, but I have lived and worked there, both in the centre (St Ann's Square) and in the south of the city. I found the bee thing rather weird, too. Like you, I'd never seen it used as a symbol before, except on Boddington's beer. Now Boddington's, when it was a proper brewery, was right next to the prison at Strangeways, as you will no doubt remember - is there some symbolism there?

One of my neighbours, who has moved away now, is a policewoman. Her partner told me the following day that she had taken her sister to the concert. Naturally when he heard about it, he called her and she said she knew nothing about it. They had left via another door and were totally unaware of the scale of what had happened until they heard it on the radio.  She is not based in Manchester and has no other connections to it. At the time, I had known her for a couple of years and I am absolutely sure that both her training and humanitarian reactions would have kicked in and and she would have offered to help. 

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3 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

So, did you experience those explosions 1st hand kj35? I hope you weren't injured. I can imagine it would be terrifying.

 

People who were starting to dismantle the drum kit & stuff on stage said they just heard a bang which they thought was a stand falling down in this instance. The bombs you're talking about were more powerful, as they did a lot more damage to structures.

 Yes the 1992 bombs.when 2 went off (They coded through 4) . Not physically harmed.  But experiencing that plus spending a whole day with army controlled robots blowing up bins and packages and not knowing if the next two bombs would detonate or where. Stays with you. The second two bombs it turned out was a lie. I was on the bus coming into work when the first one went off. I came into reception to find people with glass shards and blood on them as they evacuated from our sister office that was in the path of the first bomb . The second bomb went off (from memory) around 10 / 10.30 and was more powerful. That's the one whose shock waves we all felt. By this time we knew it was a verified coded IRA  bomb campaign (apparently) .Our building was designated a safe zone and we were sealed in by the army and not allowed to evacuate. More people got injured in the second bomb as they had evacuated to go home and that bomb was on their route . This is why you now have two  different evacuation plans from offices ..One for fire and one for terrorism. Before these 2 bombs you just a rocked up outside like a fire drill. 1996 was far far bigger. And credit where it's due the IRA gave warning so people could escape before it detonated. The police forgot to evacuate the people in the Royal building who were in doing Saturday overtime and that's where a lot of injuries occurred.  Some very serious. How no one was killed I'll never know. One bloke was flattened by the lift doors blowing out. Don't know if that's in the official narrative.  

 

The arena bomb sounds smaller and packed with nails nuts and bolts and doesn't surprise me that it killed randomly but would have sounded smaller as a bang. Also don't underestimate the adrenaline that courses so even if you're injured you get away from the source if you possibly can.Not watched this yet though am just giving a first hand experience of what it can be like. And still most Londoners only remember st Mary Axe ( Pre 7/7)

 

 

Oh...and..having been designated a safe zone the well oiled machine that is the British army realised at about 3pm they'd forgotten to check all the parked cars at the back of our office.  That was a fun 30 minutes. As we huddled together As far from the curtain glazing as possible hoping they didn't accidentally blow us up.

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Thanks - as usual, I have no 'likes' to give.

 

I'm sorry you went through such harrowing experiences, kj35. That must have been unsettling for long after.

 

I've just watched the rest of the video, and I found Richard to be very thorough. 

 

The least persuasive bit for me was the language specialist woman's observations (Genevieve Lewis). I agreed with some of it, but a lot was a bit nit-picky for me. Also, I'd have liked to have seen some follow up  to the planted camera outside one person's home.

 

But it's something I'd not looked into previously, and he gives a ton of information here, based on which, I have to say I now believe it was a hoax. The lengths our leaders and their hordes of minions go to in order to deceive the public, and justify further ruthless behaviour is nothing short of despicable. Personally, I think it's our duty to delve into things to understand the scale of what we're up against.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

THE MANCHESTER BEE

 

"Throughout the Old Testament the Israelites are told that God will lead them into a land “flowing with milk and honey”. The bee was also an important symbol for the Freemasons who then governed Manchester. In Freemasonry the bee is a symbol of co-operation, that societies can only accomplish difficult tasks when they cooperate. St. John Chrysostom, the 4th century preacher, explained that “the bee is more honoured than other animals, not because it labours, but because it labours for others”.

 

 

Thanks for this.  I'm a mank and I never knew about that freemason element . It seems Mancunians are particularly susceptible to being used as sacrifices for masons. The Salford pals regiment were sacrificed as cannon fodder on the first day of the Somme . Im sure other areas were too. But Manchester does seem to bear the brunt. 

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the guy looking for his daughter before explosion even went off,was the fakest thing ive ever seen.

 

Fully exposed by Mr Halls film.

 

Theres people getting wallets out to buy drink FFS after a bombing LOL>

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3 hours ago, kj35 said:

 Yes the 1992 bombs.when 2 went off (They coded through 4) . Not physically harmed.  But experiencing that plus spending a whole day with army controlled robots blowing up bins and packages and not knowing if the next two bombs would detonate or where. Stays with you. The second two bombs it turned out was a lie. I was on the bus coming into work when the first one went off. I came into reception to find people with glass shards and blood on them as they evacuated from our sister office that was in the path of the first bomb . The second bomb went off (from memory) around 10 / 10.30 and was more powerful. That's the one whose shock waves we all felt. By this time we knew it was a verified coded IRA  bomb campaign (apparently) .Our building was designated a safe zone and we were sealed in by the army and not allowed to evacuate. More people got injured in the second bomb as they had evacuated to go home and that bomb was on their route . This is why you now have two  different evacuation plans from offices ..One for fire and one for terrorism. Before these 2 bombs you just a rocked up outside like a fire drill. 1996 was far far bigger. And credit where it's due the IRA gave warning so people could escape before it detonated. The police forgot to evacuate the people in the Royal building who were in doing Saturday overtime and that's where a lot of injuries occurred.  Some very serious. How no one was killed I'll never know. One bloke was flattened by the lift doors blowing out. Don't know if that's in the official narrative.  

 

The arena bomb sounds smaller and packed with nails nuts and bolts and doesn't surprise me that it killed randomly but would have sounded smaller as a bang. Also don't underestimate the adrenaline that courses so even if you're injured you get away from the source if you possibly can.Not watched this yet though am just giving a first hand experience of what it can be like. And still most Londoners only remember st Mary Axe ( Pre 7/7)

 

 

Oh...and..having been designated a safe zone the well oiled machine that is the British army realised at about 3pm they'd forgotten to check all the parked cars at the back of our office.  That was a fun 30 minutes. As we huddled together As far from the curtain glazing as possible hoping they didn't accidentally blow us up.

IRA = British Army Intelligence

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13 hours ago, MrA said:

 

Abedis father was part of a network of Libyans who had previously attempted to overthrow Gaddafi 

 

Having failed they were given refuge in the UK but had their passports taken away

 

The last time the UK got involved with removing Gaddafi they gave the men their passports back so they could return to Libya 

 

Abedi the suspected bomb gut went with them and then returned to the UK 

 

The whole thing is suspect AF 

 

I am.personally of the opinion that false flag OPs often turn from being a drill to a.live event with live materials 

 

Many people came to the same conclusion regarding 7/7 tube bombinga

 

A drill gone live , with the men participating thinking they were part of an exercise and not an actual attack 

 

But then it goes lives and they are the patsies

 

I can't link David's Twitter message about this, because the security on the fourm has blocked me twice. Oh the irony!

 

David Icke at the time called it out but many people on the old forum had their eyes, ears and mouths wide shut, including a moderator.

 

But hopefully the image will appear.

 

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1 hour ago, bryan said:

IRA = British Army Intelligence

Nothing would surprise . That said there were many bomb threats and incendiary devices. The IRA  gave coded warnings and stated clearly they didn't want to harm people just disrupt financial centres.  I've just read the wiki page for 1996 and it states there was 90 minutes given. Ample time to evacuate from that area. Also. As I said the people injured were mainly in the Royal building. I do know one of them it is their story if they wish to share it but the part where I shared that the police simply 'forgot' to evacuate them was very common knowledge.  Don't forget we were all very very used to bomb hoaxes by this point, which might explain why they stayed put. Also they stayed put under police advice.  They said there was a very eery quiet that descended before the bomb went off. As even the policeman positioned outside their building evacuated. This police man had spoken to them and told them to stay put. This building was right behind the airbridge- right next to the van with the bomb. It seems utterly implausible that said policeman would simply forget all the people in the office working.

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