Guest Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kala Namak said: Is the shiny new fangled forum going to be exposed in the same way? Well I would hope not .... If I have anything to do with it, it will be backed up on the server and personally on my system every 24 hours (also offline on external drives) . But that remains to be seen. (not actually a thing I want) 6 minutes ago, Kala Namak said: I need a moment to compose myself and figure out if I want to continue posting in a forum that may be vulnerable. Comprehend completely .... feel the same way :( But I know that admin tried in every way possible. They are ripping it away .... the truth .... from every place they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Kala Namak said: ...at least version 3. So the new fangled forum will be version 4. i don't understand then how why a high profile forum like this is taken for granted for so many times. so all 3 will have been erased from history ? what lessons have been learnt from that ? Edited July 3, 2020 by Given To Fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kala Namak Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, ink said: If I have anything to do with it, it will be backed up on the server and personally on my system every 24 hours (also offline on external drives) . But that remains to be seen. (not actually a thing I want) Nearly everybody does this with their own data, ie not back it up properly. You should have at least 2 digital copies of anything you consider valuable, especially nowadays with storage being relatively cheap. A decent backup and recovery strategy is even more important for the "valuable" content in websites and online forums, and there clearly wasn't one in this case. It should have been set up right from the start especially given how many people want to shut DI down. 36 minutes ago, ink said: Comprehend completely .... feel the same way :( But I know that admin tried in every way possible. I'm not trying to have a go at the admin, I'm sure they put in a shift trying to deal with the aftermath of the cowardly hackattack, however if there was a strategy in place it should have been relatively easy to recover with minimal data loss to the last known "good version" of the database. Hopefully the good thing that will come out of this is that version 4+ of the forum will have some kind of robust recovery procedure in place to counter future attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 it's personal testimonies that i feel sorry for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 13 hours ago, ink said: Ok .... An update Although this will not be a long post .... some definitions may help .... old forum = the read only pre-March 2019 forum hacked forum = the social forum from the closure of the old forum new forum = the one being created which goes live on 10th July There is much which has occurred even down to a 'hack' of the hacked forum back in January. This was gotten over but then the old forum had 'problems'. All of the 'Icke' websites have had many issues and they continue :( The new forum is created and the time that it has taken is down to trying to convert the near 6 million posts from the old forum into the new structure .... this has not been successful. Now the developers are trying just to re-create it into a read only once again. The new forum goes live on the 10th of this month .... It will begin with the threads/posts made on this current temporary forum. The hacked forum threads and posts .... have been lost. Thanks for the update. Not great to hear that the posts from the 'hacked' Social have been lost, but at least someone has 'come clean' and made an honest admission. But this 'bad news' is at least offset by the fact that the 'old forum' can be restored and kept as an archive. If the old forum has a backup, it should be relatively easy to restore to a new hosting account. Can you say at all if the 'new forum' is going to use this current Invision system or some other forum software? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Most stuff I posted I can recreate or happily forget :-) can my warning point from the hacked lost forum be lost too ? Like others have said it's the personal testimony that hurts. I diaried my 5 or 6 week long detox from prescribed opiates. It was meant to be both a diary to remember what hell it all was (being on them and with drawing) and all thanks to David and waking up that I'm off that crap. Also a help if ever needed to anyone in the same position. I can recreate the 'sense ' of he experience but not the actual real time experience. Edited July 4, 2020 by kj35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kala Namak Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 17 hours ago, Given To Fly said: i don't understand then how why a high profile forum like this is taken for granted for so many times. so all 3 will have been erased from history ? Trying to be fair and balanced, a lot of people don't quite understand that running a high traffic forum is not easy. Trying to keep order within a forum can be like trying to herd cats (depending on how well behaved the clientele are), and keeping it safe, active and flowing is quite a challenge. It's not as simple as just installing the forum software and especially with someone like DI that has powerful enemies, careful preparation and planning is required, and to do that properly can be expensive, you can't just "wing it". I'm not privy to what was going on behind the scenes and the exact reasons that the first two forums disappeared. Apparently only one of those has been "erased" (number 2), this current forum (number 3) and ye olde forum (number one) are apparently going to be at least partially accessible from the new fangled one (number 4). 17 hours ago, Given To Fly said: what lessons have been learnt from that ? Just like your house, car or bank account, you need a reasonable level of security to deter bad actors and crooks. This event has exposed the need for a solid robust infrastructure if you're going to run a high traffic public forum, especially one that is going to attract a lot of scrutiny from the ptb. The recent hack has to go down as a bit of a humiliation and a major L. So we have to take it on the chin, understand what happened and come back stronger and more professional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Can you say at all if the 'new forum' is going to use this current Invision system or some other forum software? I can't .... I have asked but the developers have not replied (fucking pain I know) I asked Gareth if I can have a copy of the old forum database and was told "That should be fine for you to have it" .... my intention for that database, is that if I hold a copy (remember it is read only so no new posts) then it is in multiple places (off line as well) and I can then use another copy of it to translate into whatever forum software is used for the new one (and hopefully drop it into it). May take some time .... millions of posts .... but it is only the database table/field structure which I would need to change. Either way .... it is vastly better that so much is held in many places. Really hate book burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 3 hours ago, kj35 said: can my warning point from the hacked lost forum be lost too ? Sorry kj .... your warning on the 'hacked' forum was given for a reason and it should stand. You have no restrictions .... same as me .... I have a warning given by jumprogue .... I keep it to remind me not to just dish warnings out, that they do limit interaction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, ink said: Sorry kj .... your warning on the 'hacked' forum was given for a reason and it should stand. You have no restrictions .... same as me .... I have a warning given by jumprogue .... I keep it to remind me not to just dish warnings out, that they do limit interaction! I was just being cheeky. But I think you know that :-) looking forward to the new forum and now we're all forewarned about book burning we can all make sure we save stuff. Edited July 5, 2020 by kj35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awake Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 It's the 10th in oz. I suppose it will be the 11th when the update occurs. Still going ahead or do pigs really fly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, awake said: It's the 10th in oz. I suppose it will be the 11th when the update occurs. Still going ahead or do pigs really fly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 ^ POLICE FORCE AUSTRALIA ! jeepers, the road traffic bill in oz are wankers. a gravy train if i ever saw one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Alert Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Given To Fly said: ^ POLICE FORCE AUSTRALIA ! jeepers, the road traffic bill in oz are wankers. a gravy train if i ever saw one. As in the UK the police force is unemployment benefit for many incompetent, incapable, cowardish, bullyboy, psychopath, sociopath, narcissist types looking for a quick route to authority and respect which they could not achieve in the outside world on their own merits. Edited July 10, 2020 by Orange Alert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 How dare you ,we have the finest state government extortion (collection agency) there is ,apparently I always laugh every holiday, if there are only a couple of deaths on the road ,the police have done a wonderful and sterling job If there are a shit load of deaths over that period it's the motorist's fault Sorry if I appear jaded ,but it can be put down to years of experience and exposure, to bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awake Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, peter said: I always laugh every holiday, if there are only a couple of deaths on the road ,the police have done a wonderful and sterling job If there are a shit load of deaths over that period it's the motorist's fault Yeah and 1km over the limit is "speeding". Bad driver, we will now take your moneys. Then when too many people are following the rules, they make them "tougher", all in the name of safety !! very easy to sell that line. The whole thing is a legalized robbery 2 hours ago, peter said: Sorry if I appear jaded ,but it can be put down to years of experience and exposure, to bullshit That is ok, most people know about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) On 5/20/2020 at 7:02 PM, ink said: Is here .... Page 1 Page 2 Page 3 Page 4 Page 3 may not be complete? FFS Just went to grab these and reinstate the moon thread. Guess what. They dont exist any more. Who is deleting this stuff ? Do people have any ideas. Oh and screw you Google (if that's who it is). I saved them at the time in my hard drive Edited August 23, 2020 by kj35 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazzaw1307 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I ordered some books from the website months ago and never received them. I have contact Gareth on facebook and sent various emails with no response from anyone well done guys - great, thanks for the support. Glad you got ur money from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 10:51 AM, hazzaw1307 said: I ordered some books from the website months ago and never received them. I have contact Gareth on facebook and sent various emails with no response from anyone well done guys - great, thanks for the support. Glad you got ur money from me l've PMd you.. BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 2:41 AM, kj35 said: Just went to grab these and reinstate the moon thread. Guess what. They dont exist any more. Who is deleting this stuff ? Do people have any ideas. Oh and screw you Google (if that's who it is). I saved them at the time in my hard drive Sorry if I missed it , but would it be possible to start a new moon thread with what you have copied, it's always of interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/27/2020 at 12:31 PM, peter said: Sorry if I missed it , but would it be possible to start a new moon thread with what you have copied, it's always of interest Well guess what. It's not in my hard drive either. Selected files are just gone...how does that happen? We will need to start again unless @ink still hasthe screenshots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, kj35 said: Well guess what. It's not in my hard drive either. Selected files are just gone...how does that happen? We will need to start again unless @ink still hasthe screenshots OH bugger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Whos messing with forum? Looks shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Whos messing with forum? Looks shite. Phew. Not just me then. Give them a bit...it might free up some space looking at some of the condensing. Did comment I felt like I was in a Halloween version of St Patrick's day though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oz93666 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Just now, oddsnsods said: Whos messing with forum? Looks shite. You took the words right out of my mouth oddsnsods ... I was about to start a tread with that title .... The edit buttons gone and I keep hitting the quote button when I go to edit .... Still no numbers on posts ... Can I respectfully suggest if the webmasters have time on their hands they continue the hunt for the missing data from the last two forums ... we were assured a year ago, this was out in cyber space somewhere and would soon be reinstated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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