Finder Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) I'll keep it short. Because the topic was discussed in depth in a corresponding thread which is currently unavailable and which I hope will be restored. So, here it goes. Epstein didn't kill himself. And Brian Ross is not who he says and advertises he is. The guy is hypocritical and double faced. His money earning interests are irrelevant. He is afraid of David, he envies him, and he is in awe each time he meets him. David knows it, and during the last interview, at the very beginning he gave Brian a hint as he looked straight into his eyes, that if he wants to be in David's camp and in David's shoes, he can not afford a wavering position (paraphrasing). Brian's reaction during David's very matter of fact explanation was very revealing. Four years ago, someone called Zen Gardner who happened to be a paedophile, and who's role in a creepy organisation he worked for, was to manage the kids that he and others in that cult were repeatedly abusing, interviewed DI. Zen had been hiding his nasty past activities for as long as it was possible. He eventually left that creepy organisation, and became an author, a spiritual influencer, a conspiracy theories guru and a big supporter of DI. He built an audience and a reputation of a spiritual leader. At some point he interviewed DI, wrote a book presenting lots of info he himself knew (of course), that also supported nearly all DI ideas. He and DI endorsed each other until the truth came out about Zen (real name: Don Ferguson) and David parted his ways with him. Other prominent people who would regularly interview Zen Gardner and post his articles on their websites parted their ways with that hypocrite too. The story is still in shadows, David never mentioned that guy since. Nevertheless, before the truth about that Don Ferguson came out, both, he and David gave themselves a chance to have an interview with each other, shared their audiences and Zen Gardner's books still sell. For the record, Zen Gardner was often called "DI good friend" and you can still find this info in the i-net. After the nasty revelation, David, naturally, remained David, the unpleasant situation didn't taint him of course. At the time there was no way for DI to know who Zen Gardner was behind the scenes. David simply used his chance to speak like he always does, and he always gives others chances to be the best they can be, even though he sees people for who they are, esp now, pretty damn well. David is very aware who Brian is and what really motivates him. He gives him a chance. He is aware he takes some risk. But the fact that David gives others a chance to be the best they can be, does not guarantee they will, nor it means they are descent people who can be trusted. I submitted a video of Don Ferguson with DI below. For those who claim BR is just a nice guy and says the right things, I think you should watch this video, because Zen Gardner also "looks" like a very nice guy. Even to David. And those who somehow see charisma in BR and also see him committed to the good cause, watch Zen Gardner now. And imagine you never knew he was a paedophile. Just like with BR, what Don Ferguson says and presents to the public and his energy simply don't match. But feel free to dismiss it. And I want to highlight one more time, as a disclaimer, it wasn't just DI who picked the wrong guy to be associated with. Zen Gardner was fooling many prominent leaders in the spiritual circles and also those who were investigating the nefarious affairs of the religious and political elite morons. https://newspunch.com/david-ickes-friend-zen-gardner-confesses-he-ran-pedophile-cult/ https://hoaxteadresearch.wordpress.com/2016/08/24/angela-gives-zen-gardner-a-free-pass/ https://wakeup-world.com/2016/04/24/david-icke-and-zen-gardner-talk-challenges-and-solutions-for-the-world-today/ https://aplanetruth.info/2016/08/22/hey-icke-rense-acivist-post-et-al-why-no-covering-of-the-outing-of-pedo-leader-zen-gardner/ https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Awakening-Zen-Gardner/dp/1522897097 Now and Zen: Zen Gardner talks to David Icke 15 March 2016 VIDEO - https://hooktube.com/watch?v=I9t23GZ1vCE P.S. I fail to understand why after the topic of BR & LR was so extensively discussed relatively recently, the OP of this thread brought the damn thing back again and said he's tired of BR bashing. Really??? Statistically speaking, the amount of short videos produced by BR praising himself and bragging non-stop far exceeds the amount of videos produced by others that criticise him and his motives. I am tired of hearing a bunch of commenters only seeing one aspect of the picture and completely ignoring the rest of it that should be considered. Especially in the light of what I've said above. My guess is, based on a few weeks of observation of the OP, is that he desperately wanted to chat away about anything, so he picked up and slightly rephrased one of the most popular topic (of the recently hacked forum) that quickly became an interesting debate, -to a certain point, after which it was just a mindless repetition of opinions, not an intelligent debate any more. The only contribution of the OP of this thread to the original version of this topic was a pasted copy of the Wikipedia page with info about subrosa and meaning of rose as a symbol, that had absolutely nothing to do with the topic and its aspects that were then discussed. A show off? What would it take you to be yourself and to be original? Paste and copy requires no IQ, a kid can do it. Edited May 21, 2020 by Finder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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