Dawn Richardson Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Hello there, how are you this fine evening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dawn Richardson said: Hello there, how are you this fine evening? Sorry my bad .... be well :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remi Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 7:53 PM, Grumpy Owl said: At present it seems to me that they have the power to do whatever they want, especially while everybody is massively distracted by this 'coronavirus pandemic'. In much the same way that little attention is being given to the boatloads of illegal immigrants arriving on Kent beaches everyday. I'm only really seeing Nigel Farage making noises about this, yet he is being criticised for making a 'non-essential journey' in order to film what has been happening. Too many people have fallen under this mass hypnotism of believing anything the Government and media tells them, and that by doing what they are told they will be 'kept safe'. It is surely only a matter of time before we are all told that 'remaining closely aligned with the EU' (ie 'not leaving') will 'keep us safe'. And even a number of people who previously voted Leave will blindly go along with this. There'll end up being an extension to this 'transition period' (I believe we have until the end of June to request this), and the Government will enjoy huge support for this. Then begins the task of preparing for some kind of 'second referendum', and the coronavirus fear panic will be used to sway peoples' opinions. "Stay Safe. Stay in the EU" (I voted Leave and would do so again) You were absolutely right. They did ask for extension on 15th of May and have received the answer on 25th of May from Brussels who happily offers 1 or 2 year extension if UK is ready to make financial contributions towards EU. Joint Committee has to make agreement with UK until 1st of July. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 20 hours ago, Remi said: You were absolutely right. They did ask for extension on 15th of May and have received the answer on 25th of May from Brussels who happily offers 1 or 2 year extension if UK is ready to make financial contributions towards EU. Joint Committee has to make agreement with UK until 1st of July. Thanks for that, first I'd heard of this. But this isn't a formal request from the Government being replied to, it looks like a response to a 'begging' letter sent by a handful of hardcore ultra-Remainer MPs. So while not legally binding in any way, it certainly gives you an idea of what is going to be forced on the Government soon. And perhaps this is why there is so much 'pressure' being applied to Boris and the Tory government to 'deal with' Mr Cummings - maybe the 'plan' is to get him out of the picture, then a 'new' senior aide can be appointed who will be more, shall we say, 'favourable towards the EU' and will 'advise' Mr Johnson accordingly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 That's an interesting speculation, which would make me feel (just a little tiny bit) less hostile toward the pair of them. It would also explain the frenzied baying for Cummings' blood from the reprobates in the press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: That's an interesting speculation, which would make me feel (just a little tiny bit) less hostile toward the pair of them. It would also explain the frenzied baying for Cummings' blood from the reprobates in the press. If you judge a man by his enemies, Cummings seems to be a good bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Just now, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: If you judge a man by his enemies, Cummings seems to be a good bloke. Yes indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 Following on from that communication with the EU Ed Davey seeks to push through a private members bill. https://services.parliament.uk/bills/2019-21/europeanunionwithdrawalimplementationperiod.html Unlikely to succeed but one has to ask what does it take these days to get arrested for colluding with a foreign power. Carisbrooke castle is currently close to the public.....certainly still room for someone there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Libertà per l'Italia! Furious anti-EU protests erupt in Rome and Milan demanding Italy QUIT the eurozone https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1289454/EU-crisis-Italy-protest-Milan-Rome-Orange-Vests-eurozone-anti-EU-latest-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: Libertà per l'Italia! Furious anti-EU protests erupt in Rome and Milan demanding Italy QUIT the eurozone https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1289454/EU-crisis-Italy-protest-Milan-Rome-Orange-Vests-eurozone-anti-EU-latest-news At the bottom of that page is a link to an article entitled... Former BBC reporters among Remainers in demonstration outside Dominic Cummings' home DEMONSTRATORS outside Dominic Cummings' home this week included a number a high-profile Remainers and former BBC reporters, it has emerged. By LUKE HAWKER PUBLISHED: 09:06, Sun, May 31, 2020 | UPDATED: 10:40, Sun, May 31, 2020 ...And yet despite that headline, the article and photographs show clearly that the demo's were specifically people objecting to Cummings' breach of lock down rules, and zero to do with Brexit, so they are playing games again, deliberately misleading people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgecrusher Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) I never felt we'd be out of it. I fully believe Trump being in power and us coming out of the EU is why this has happened when it has. Edited May 31, 2020 by Edgecrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Well if that is the case, they had better accustom themselves to not getting all their own way. I'm glad that the Italian people are demanding to leave. What will that be nicknamed? Quitaly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgesmiley Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 wopexit - in times where not being politically correct is a crime - i choose to be a criminal - humour aside I wish the Italian people success should they get a vote to unravel themselves from the tentaculous grasp of the eu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagmar Gross Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 I really don't wish to speculate. I think that serves no purpose. It is like believing instead of knowing. What I do feel is certain, is that thanks to the destruction of most people's livelihoods, freedom of movement simply for pleasure between the EU and UK won't be an issue anymore. Add to most people not earning enough money for travel anymore the atrocious conditions under which we are expected to travel: masks on flights, COVID document or app or whatever, has done away with one of the most beautiful things we had while member of the EU. The others? Well, you all know them too. Whatever else is behind the creation of the EU, membership gave British residents and nationals many beautiful things, but with this new strategy of fear of a supposed virus and all the evil that this brings with it, I think Brexit is the least of our worries... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alnitak Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 What this is going to boil down to in the next week or two is how many Tory re-moaners were voted back into parliament in December does anyone know? There are about 40 who were shouting out about the cummings episode. If there are another 40-ish that want to delay then we could be on shaky ground here. Someone is going to want to pass something through parliament to delay (go to the 2 year option). It could be a close thing as Boris hasnt made many friends in the last few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 It is a fact that an extension to the trade negotiations deadline, in reality Brexit itself, is going to be agreed This will be until at least December 31st 2021, but probably until December 31st 2022. The first questions to ask are when are the mass media going to run with the Remainiac narrative and will the general public swallow it? The PTB don't necessarily have to run with the Remainiac narrative in June, as they can just bullshit it later on in the year, whenever it suits them. However, as there have been a few 'Brexit Issue' nibbles in the mass media, over the past few weeks or so, then I do agree with the folks who think that it will happen imminently. Furthermore, despite all of the economic carnage unleashed by the PTB, since the end of March, I still don't think that the embattled general public will swallow the lies. After all, rebate or not, for just how long can we go on paying the E.U. £350 million per week?! The mass media can only keep quiet about it for so long too. The Remainiacs will whine that we can't afford to finalise Brexit at the moment, due to all of the suffering businesses, but it will be one delay too many I think. The people will finally begin to see it as the cancellation that it really is. I definitey wouldn't want to be the PTB right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 14 hours ago, numnuts said: The Remainiacs will whine that we can't afford to finalise Brexit at the moment, due to all of the suffering businesses, but it will be one delay too many I think. I think you've hit a nail on the head there. That will be the 'spin' that will be brought into play. "Haven't our businesses suffered enough uncertainty through the Covid-19 pandemic already?' "We need to keep businesses safe" ... "We need to protect the economy" ... The same words and mantras will continue, while they are embedded in the public consciousness. SAFE PROTECT "The risks of ending the lockdown too soon" will become "The risks of leaving the EU" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Tried to renew my passport online. Got told to wait unless it is urgent because of Covid-19. British embassy in DC is worse than useless as conditions there are not the same as they are in the UK; or at least they weren't when I applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) On 6/1/2020 at 7:09 PM, Grumpy Owl said: "Haven't our businesses suffered enough uncertainty through the Covid-19 pandemic already?' "We need to keep businesses safe" ... "We need to protect the economy" ... The same words and mantras will continue, while they are embedded in the public consciousness. 'The Sturgeon', in ultra-masonic Scotland, gave a speech right along those very lines, but the PTB bottled it for England. The stage was well set, what with the recent news about April exhibiting the worst economic figures, since Raquel Welch seemingly couldn't afford a new bra in that dinosaur flick; the population well traumatised by 3 months of lockdown; and Premier League footy imminently set to be back on the BBC, as yet another 'big distraction' from everything Brexit. However, if anyone thinks that the transition period not being extended today is the end of the Brexit antics, then they need to promptly report to their nearest loony bin. From reading some of the BBC News article comments earlier on, which claimed that a 'final victory had now been secured', I can't quite believe how naive some folks are. Look at what the PTB just unleashed, then ask yourselves 'Are they going to leave it at that?'. Hmm... https://youtu.be/Xfc_CrwiE4Y Edited June 15, 2020 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 This was shared by someone on Facebook earlier today: I'm not sure what this all means to be honest, but I don't trust these hedge-fund types one bit, and it sounds like a lot of 'wealthy elites' stand to make a packet on a 'no-deal' outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Well, it 'has' to be imminent. It can't not be imminent. It is a logical certainty. Even Laura 'OT Cheese Grater' Kuenssberg has stopped saying 'Don't forget we have already left sheeple!', whenever she gives an update on the E.U. trade negotiations. I don't even think you can get a bet on with the bookies that the so-called transition period won't be extended. They only seem to be taking bets on how long the extension period will be. Good to know we will finally be out by 31st December then. Ha ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Talk Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 The self-proclaimed 'hard-man of Brexit' begins to apologise for being the 'hard-man of Brexit': https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/northern-ireland-republic-of-ireland-brexit-chris-heatonharris-james-cleverly-b1029668.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Talk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 The Truss debacle was/is just an extension of the Brexit vote. 'They' disagreed with the Brexit vote and attempted to overturn it for years - in vain, for now. 'They' disagreed with the vote of the Tory membership, so Truss was levered out in 44 days. I can't pretend to know what Truss's intentions were but they were not going to be pro-WEF enough in the short-term. Therefore she was told to move on. This is nothing more than another attempt to scupper Brexit. And if Boris is somehow reinstalled as PM, he will gradually roll it back. Democracy? Ha ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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