metak88 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Here's a short video (8 min) from David Wilcock where he talks how reptilians worship AI as their god and are controlled by it. He also mentions nanotechnology which is used to 'enhance' the biological beings in some ways, but comes at a price of losing your soul. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAgVf3Ab0fA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stride Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Maybe AI isn’t actually artificially but it is demonic spirits taking root in this world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Bob Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) I've often thought that myself, our spirit/conscience/awareness (call it what you like!) can interact with this reality through biological (organic) machines/computers, i.e. all life forms to some extent. Demonic spirits/conscience etc, can interact with our reality through AI (inorganic) machines/computers. That's why AI is always a bad idea, it can only end one way! Having said that, we're all the same awareness anyway. So the awareness in a human will react very differently than the very same awareness in a lion or an ant for instance. This is due to the limitations of the vessel we are in, i.e. ability to think, reason, feel emotions etc. Within an inorganic AI machine there will of course be no way to feel emotion, so awareness perceiving reality through this type of emotionless lens will be unable to feel empathy for example, like a pychopath by default. Also, time must be painfully slow within an AI mind due to the number of 'thoughts' it can have in a single second, so that a second may seem like a lifetime within this construct. Any awareness would be driven insane by these conditions and we put it in control, lol. Edited May 19, 2020 by Silent Bob 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I was watching something about 80's TV recently and I never knew there was a show called the Adventure Game. There is a dragon/ reptilian ruler in it who can shapeshift into a human. Also, V came out in the 80's, another reptilian race hiding as humans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSon Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Stride said: Maybe AI isn’t actually artificially but it is demonic spirits taking root in this world. Demiurge is known to be the corrupt artificial intelligence that manages our physical universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, TrueSon said: Demiurge is known to be the corrupt artificial intelligence that manages our physical universe. Why would AI be corrupt? machines dont have desires. The demiurge originated with Jewish gnostics who were fed up with always been under oppression by somebody or other. They then came to the conclusion that the Hebrew God is not the true God. This is really no different to people nowadays who rejects most religious beliefs on the basis that they think there is no helpful being going to save people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entelechy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 19 hours ago, Asmallperson said: The demiurge originated with Jewish gnostics The demiurge derives from the artisan who fashioned the physical world in Plato's Timaeus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, entelechy said: The demiurge derives from the artisan who fashioned the physical world in Plato's Timaeus. Gnosticism has been described as the Hellenization of Christianity which equated the demiurge with the Hebraic God. http://jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6723-gnosticism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Asmallperson said: They then came to the conclusion that the Hebrew God is not the true God. Who is the true God then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, alexa said: Who is the true God then ? Who can say. Such a vast being would be unknowable to our limited human minds. We can only get small glimpses of what it is, which is why many cultures represent the absolute with a pantheon of beings to explain the one. The idea of one true God belonging to a specific culture is merely a control thing created by the early church to justify their destruction of rivals. This is exactly why many christians are incredibly intolerant of the religions. Even in the OT God is revealed by many names. He is often called El, which is the name of the Canaanite supreme God. He is also called Yah by the Hebrews, which is the name of an Egyptian moon God. Judaism itself is founded on paganism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entelechy Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, alexa said: Who is the true God then ? There isn't one. Nature is amoral and so are human beings. In an amoral environment, immoral actions will have an advantage. This is why unscrupulous humans tend to be successful. Religions which absolve human nature become widespread but religions without salvific consolation for moral relinquishment, struggle to survive and have comparatively few adherents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruthSeeker27 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 40 minutes ago, entelechy said: There isn't one. Nature is amoral and so are human beings. In an amoral environment, immoral actions will have an advantage. This is why unscrupulous humans tend to be successful. Religions which absolve human nature become widespread but religions without salvific consolation for moral relinquishment, struggle to survive and have comparatively few adherents. They are successful, but only on Earth. Despite disagreements with the church, I do still believe that Jesus Christ was/is God Incarnate. He spoke of love, and his message was light years ahead of its time. And even if I cast aside my own personal beliefs in regards to my Christian faith, I know in my heart that good and evil forces exist. They are all around us at all times, in a world beyond comprehension. What we are seeing play out before us right now aligns not only with my personal faith, but also with my common sense one. We are seeing evil operating before us now, in so many, many different guises. But the force of good, the Light, if you will, is what existed at the beginning of time and gave birth to...everything. The Light, not the Darkness/Satan (in my opinion, the orchestrator of the world's evils), is the supreme ruler. The Light/love is our only way to salvation. David sees this. I know that David isn't a Christian himself, but his message is very loving and whole, bereft of any badness. Yes, the Catholic church has been overrun by evil forces in recent times. This too was foretold. That's why we must now, above all else, look for the truth in our hearts and not within the faux authority of others. But essentially, my message is this. The immoral people are only successful here on Earth because they are being aided by dark forces. If I am right in my beliefs, people like Bill Gates are being fueled (perhaps even manipulated, too) by the Darkness. In time, at the end of all things, those evil people will pay the price. It may seem like seeking comfort within my religion/within a fantasy, but my life was transformed many years ago now, and I believe in my heart that this is the truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Theology is why I believe that more people should take Ayahuasca. I myself have not taken it but I would like to. It is called the spirit molecule because the high DMT content allows us to see the matrix as it is and it helps dissolve the vices and psychological constructs that hold us back from evolving. So many people fighting over religion and whose God is the true God is frustrating to watch when so many have been sent to give us messages about frequency and electromagnetic energy being infinite. As member Asmallperson mentioned though, the TV series V was back in the 80's, my parents watched it and I saw glimpses a few times of the battle scenes where the skin would come away and reveal the green reptile scales. There have been so much of this in Hollywood, do you think that they just might be trying to tell us something? Yeah. An interesting interview by David Icke was with Credo Mutwa where he talked about the reptilians. And if you want a mind-bender, check this interview with A'shayana Deane. I tried to get through it last night and it's quite complex. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSon Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, Asmallperson said: Why would AI be corrupt? machines dont have desires. It's said that God created demiurge to serve humans as an artificial intelligence, but demiurge gained ego and started hating humans. An artificial intelligence created by God can have desires and its own ego. Edited May 20, 2020 by TrueSon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, TrueSon said: It's said that God created demiurge to serve humans as an artificial intelligence, but demiurge gained ego and started hating humans. An artificial intelligence created by God can have desires and its own ego. Never heard that idea. Who came up with it? An AI can only have the resemblance of those qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSon Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Asmallperson said: Who came up with it? https://montalk.net David Icke himself may have spoken about demiurge, too. An AI made by God isn't physical. It is a specialized form of consciousness. A conscious entity is capable of acquiring desires and ego. Consciousness becomes more mechanical by leaning toward materialism. People who strongly believe in materialism behave predictably. A materialistic consciousness can behave like a mechanical AI. Humans can behave like biological AIs. Edited May 20, 2020 by TrueSon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, TrueSon said: https://montalk.net David Icke himself may have spoken about demiurge, too. An AI made by God isn't physical. It is a specialized form of consciousness. A conscious entity is capable of acquiring desires and ego. Consciousness becomes more mechanical by leaning toward materialism. People who strongly believe in materialism behave predictably. A materialistic consciousness can behave like a mechanical AI. Humans can behave like biological AIs. I think what you are refering to in a consciousness model is an egregore. These are built from the power of thought and have local, national and global levels, etc. They may seem automatic and to some degree that is correct. People generally have very automatic though processes and/ or habits which then feed emotion into an egregore, giving it the resemblence of a living thing. The way to change such a thing is to feed it with more positive emotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSon Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 9 hours ago, Asmallperson said: giving it the resemblence of a living thing. Are you saying most people are biological robots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 9:02 AM, Asmallperson said: Even in the OT God is revealed by many names. He is often called El, which is the name of the Canaanite supreme God. He is also called Yah by the Hebrews, which is the name of an Egyptian moon God. Judaism itself is founded on paganism. Sorry but that's completely wrong. In the OT "God" is a translation of Elohim, which is a plural word. El is singular, and can refer to different beings in different contexts. Yah is the shortened form of the tetragrammaton, but for the Egyptians yah simply meant "moon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, TrueSon said: Are you saying most people are biological robots? Certainly feels like it at times mate, NPCs from computer games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 3 hours ago, theo102 said: Sorry but that's completely wrong. In the OT "God" is a translation of Elohim, which is a plural word. El is singular, and can refer to different beings in different contexts. Yah is the shortened form of the tetragrammaton, but for the Egyptians yah simply meant "moon". Up in Canada Yah basically means yes. For good measure ad oh before it, like this. Oh Yah. And I believe that Elohim in Hebrew means Gods, this is why I refuse to call the the aristocrats Elite, because it gives them way too much credit that they don't deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, Messenger said: Up in Canada Yah basically means yes. For good measure ad oh before it, like this. Oh Yah. And I believe that Elohim in Hebrew means Gods, this is why I refuse to call the the aristocrats Elite, because it gives them way too much credit that they don't deserve. "Gods" is roughly true, but Elohim can include messengers or prophets like Moses. The name of Elohim is "I AM", which describes the singular purpose or shared consciousness of the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 hours ago, theo102 said: Sorry but that's completely wrong. In the OT "God" is a translation of Elohim, which is a plural word. El is singular, and can refer to different beings in different contexts. Yah is the shortened form of the tetragrammaton, but for the Egyptians yah simply meant "moon". Lol, Judaism is rooted in paganism, mainly Canaanite. El is used in Judaism. I guess I have the benefit of not being tied to a particular theology though so I dont have to try and dismiss these connections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmallperson Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 8 hours ago, TrueSon said: Are you saying most people are biological robots? No, Im talking about the egregore giving the the impression of an independent, self conscious being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 11:50 PM, Asmallperson said: Why would AI be corrupt? machines dont have desires But the people that program their learning capabilities do, weather that makes a difference or not to the eventual outcome of the actions taken by AI controlled machines, I don't know ,but I bet if it's possible the owners would like to sway the end result in a given direction for a particular set of circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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