Astral explorations

[Finder]

14 hours ago, kj35 said:

Also . Astral projection. Did it accidentally before surgery when already under anaesthesia.  Could describe the room and husband leaving and what he did- just like people describe in NDE only wasn't dead. 

 

Think / know I've had other experiences of it too but am currently suppressing knowledge as more stuff is seeping out daily and I'm worried that soon the small trickle will become a tidal wave that I know i won't be able to control and I won't be this person anymore.

 

Or perhaps I'm just crackers. 

 

You are most welcome. The knowledge, power and awareness of yours that you deny and reject will haunt you in a very idiotic and unforgettable way, i.e., it will be used against you by others until you acknowledge it and claim it back. And own it again. The fear you are describing is based on the wrong identification. You believe you are your physical body with your life stories attached to it. That's your form, not your essence. Your current form. You have had many forms like this. What you actually are is awareness and a certain presence that animates the body, personality and a few million stories you have generated throughout your incarnations here and there. Your experience of any kind -anywhere is not you, your inner aware presence that observes that experience is who you. You are the awareness in which your personality and experience occur.This simple thing can not be given or explained, it can only be experienced. Or not.

 

You are afraid to loose your wrong identity (identification with this life personality and all its stories). Only. The truth is, the real can't be lost or distroyed. If it's lost and destroyed it means it was based on illusion in the first place. Perhaps you feel like an actor in a theatre who is about to leave the stage but he is so identified with the character he was playing and the costume he was wearing and the scene that he feels panic at the though that the entire play was actually made up. I would deliberately meditate on the one who is afraid to loose control. Or rather....the illusion of it.

[oceanwave]

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[rooey]

15 hours ago, Finder said:

 

Using modern "scientific terms" what you have described is only natural and also trainable, it is called remote viewing.

You can also astro project, and if one's full of crap, the crap entities one will meet and they will stick to such individual, just like it happens in social life when it comes to ppl. There are other kinds of beings who are very aware and very evolved. Don't buy into other ppl fear comments on the matter. They usually don't have any personal experience or only 1-2 experiences and both are negative. They never then cross the crap line to go any further in their exploration of their own consciousness.

Keep practicing and keep expanding your awareness. What you describe is remote viewing. A well known thing.  

ta, have thought of the bodyless one as perhaps remote viewing. If that's the case that things Ive seen are actual, well then there could be some cause for concern, however also cause for great hope 

 

[Jason]

On 5/17/2020 at 7:20 PM, megatron3 said:

Which are your favourite places to visit 'up there'?

First time I astral projected, all I could see was my bedroom full of blue electrical beams that I was floating in, like a sea. Has anybody had a similar experience?

Other times I simply had fun flying around and talking to my Grandpa etc..,,but when I even think of visiting the Moon I get goosebumps! Very weird, so I wonder if any of You have been to the moon before, or is it best to avoid it due to shadowy stuff that goes on up there...,

Greetings

 

What you are describing is called lucid dreaming.

[megatron3]

On 5/21/2020 at 4:02 PM, Jason said:

What you are describing is called lucid dreaming.

I think I know the difference between astral projection and lucid dreaming, thank you Jason. 

[Finder]

During your astral travelling/exploration, what has been your most interesting discovery that revealed the lies or distorted, twisted information written on the subject in the popular books? Or written about human nature/consciousness in ...so called books on spirituality? Also, what do you feel/see is happening in the energy realm now, if you compare it with what was happening in the energy realm say, last Oct-Dec? Also, what do you find the most curious or peculiar thing about people when you perceive them from the perspective of your energy body?

[chocomel]

On 5/17/2020 at 7:20 PM, megatron3 said:

Which are your favourite places to visit 'up there'?

 

Infinite space, complete darkness called Abyss. It's all here though.

Peaceful there.

[KingKitty]

On 5/17/2020 at 1:15 PM, megatron3 said:

Many times, first few ones scared me, now I just fall back asleep or go out lol.

Had a woman try to tell me something once, but I was so terrified I woke back up,...now of course i banished her or whatever it was. Your mindset makes up your surroundings. 

I had experienced sleep paralysis for a brief period in my 20's. Scared the hell out of me. Never happened before, hasn't happened since. Also, during this same time period, I would get these massive nose bleeds out of the blue. Those stopped after the SP stopped.

 

The SP I experienced had me feeling 100% awake and aware, yet my body remained in sleep mode. I was unable to break our of it, no matter how hard I tried. As I struggled to "break free", my body would go into convulsions. Eventually, I would break from it and sit up in my bed, anxious, confussed, scared, yet...strangly...would suddenly feel very calm and at ease and go back to a peaceful sleep with no further incident for that evening.

 

After a few of these happened, I told my mother about them. That coupled with the nose bleeds, prompted her to tell my about a few books she had been reading by Whitley Strieber. Then, we watched the movie based on his book, Communion. Freaked me out!

 

The SP continued a few more times before stopping. During the final one, just as I was struggling to break out of the paralysis, I heard scrambled voices/noises in my ears...almost like the aliens in Mars Attacks. The nose bleeds stopped right after, as well.

 

I didn't leave my body, nor do I recall seeing anything. I still have no idea what it was about.

 

And that's my sleep paralysis story.

[Tinfoil Hat]

1 hour ago, KingKitty said:

I had experienced sleep paralysis for a brief period in my 20's. Scared the hell out of me. Never happened before, hasn't happened since. Also, during this same time period, I would get these massive nose bleeds out of the blue. Those stopped after the SP stopped.

 

The SP I experienced had me feeling 100% awake and aware, yet my body remained in sleep mode. I was unable to break our of it, no matter how hard I tried. As I struggled to "break free", my body would go into convulsions. Eventually, I would break from it and sit up in my bed, anxious, confussed, scared, yet...strangly...would suddenly feel very calm and at ease and go back to a peaceful sleep with no further incident for that evening.

 

After a few of these happened, I told my mother about them. That coupled with the nose bleeds, prompted her to tell my about a few books she had been reading by Whitley Strieber. Then, we watched the movie based on his book, Communion. Freaked me out!

 

The SP continued a few more times before stopping. During the final one, just as I was struggling to break out of the paralysis, I heard scrambled voices/noises in my ears...almost like the aliens in Mars Attacks. The nose bleeds stopped right after, as well.

 

I didn't leave my body, nor do I recall seeing anything. I still have no idea what it was about.

 

And that's my sleep paralysis story.

 

I've had a similar thing, where it sounded like an angry man's voice shouting but on a radio channel that's not quite tuned in, so I couldn't tell what was being said.

[KingKitty]

6 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

I've had a similar thing, where it sounded like an angry man's voice shouting but on a radio channel that's not quite tuned in, so I couldn't tell what was being said.

Oh fcuk, dude, why did you have to say that!?! That is just about it...I didn't even add the part about the out of tune radio station, someone(thing?) yelling stuff I could not quite understand. Oh man...trippin' on it a bit now

 

Thanks for sharing that info...I think? Well, sleep with a light on and my cat sleeps at my side. I honestly believe he can ward that sh!t off. If he can't, do me a favor...don' t tell me.

[Beaujangles]

On 5/28/2020 at 6:04 PM, KingKitty said:

Oh fcuk, dude, why did you have to say that!?! That is just about it...I didn't even add the part about the out of tune radio station, someone(thing?) yelling stuff I could not quite understand. Oh man...trippin' on it a bit now

 

Thanks for sharing that info...I think? Well, sleep with a light on and my cat sleeps at my side. I honestly believe he can ward that sh!t off. If he can't, do me a favor...don' t tell me.

 

 

Thats really weird... as I also experienced words spoken as if through a radio. It was in the night...and during a rather strange experience.

[Pete Tate]

I could scream in torment but I choose not to believe.

[peter]

On 5/21/2020 at 8:33 AM, kj35 said:

Think / know I've had other experiences of it too but am currently suppressing knowledge as more stuff is seeping out daily and I'm worried that soon the small trickle will become a tidal wave that I know i won't be able to control and I won't be this person anymore.

 

Or perhaps I'm just crackers. 

 

 

Of course you will be the same person,you will just know more

 

 

PS I think you might be cheese and bickies  but I definitely don't your crackers

[peter]

On 5/18/2020 at 5:27 AM, serpentine said:

As Morpheus might say "Do you think that's your astral body you are in?".

 

 

 

The movie men who stare at goats was a take on the life and work of INGO SWAN I believe ,the book penetration by him is very  interesting

[Fluke]

Would be cool to have an astral meetup. How would that be for underground hidden insurgence. Say a time date and place to meet. Say Charing cross train station on the 20th at 3:30am. "I'll be in the form of an owl."

 

I'm half joking of course. I have been told by various knowledgeable people in the esoteric to avoid these type of paraphychological experiements as they can be dangerous but they didn't go into detail. I may look into it a bit more and perhaps start a thread on it. If we could collectively focus on something and see if we can effect a certain change in the planet. I guess it could leave us open for energy harvesting. 

 

On the astral projection topic I've always wanted to do it and I have been trying for 20 years to conciously do it.  

[DaleP]

 

[Fifth element]

Scientists claim two people communicated in their dreams in world first..

Scientists claim two people communicated in their dreams in world first | Report.az

 

For the Lucid dream thread if there is one..

[RobinJ]

On 5/18/2020 at 2:27 PM, Tinfoil Hat said:

Perhaps you can advise me?

From being as young as I can remember, I've randomly had an experience which I resisted and feared because it was almost overwhelmingly weird. It was always when I was trying to get to sleep when extra exhausted (have always suffered from insomnia and sometimes get completely wiped out with fatigue, but still can't sleep) and it was a really strong sensation like electricity going round and round my whole body, just under my skin, and pulsating up and down very fast, then focusing in my head.

 

I wondered if it was some sort of fit or medical thing. I'd will it to go away, which it would after a bit, but as soon as I relaxed to try to go to sleep, it would come back, so when it happened, I'd spend the whole night fending it off and get up completely frazzled.

 

Some years ago, I confided in my mum about it, and she said the next time it happens, tell whatever it is to go in peace with God (I'm not actually religious).

 

I did - and because I was so tired & bad tempered, I also added, "Fuck right off and never come back" out loud.

 

And it never has come back.

 

The thing is, not long afterwards, I read something about some chap who's name I don't remember, describing precisely the same experience. He reckoned that it was a prelude to astral projection, and described his adventures in the astral plane. 

 

When I read that, it made me want to have the experience again, with the intention of letting it climax instead of resisting it, so that I can astral project, but it has never happened, so I can't do it. I've tried meditating, breathing exercises, and focusing on my third eye, but nothing!

 

Can you recommend anything to try to bring that sensation back?

 

I'm curious to know why you wanted rid of it back when it was happening. Did it feel bad in any way or was it purely a fear response?

Have you tried self hypnosis or via a professional, perhaps that may give you the break through.

This may sound a bit weird, but I had a similar experience in the beginning of my spiritual wake up thing, except mine was more like a pulsating, vibrating energy going up and down my body. It was so strong my physical body was vibrating and my fingers were kind of buzzing. I thought it was a dream to begin with and I touched my leg with my hands and could feel the buzzing through my skin! Very bizarre.

The thing you said about extreme tiredness reminded me that I was in an extreme tiredness state too when it happened ( and was also experimenting with energy movement the previous days).

 

I'm thinking its possible that we get shown weird stuff like this to see if we can be jolted out of the matrix sleep system, to push us on to our true path perhaps? To get us curious and asking questions.

Might be worth researching you experience more to see if you can dig deeper and get answers via others experiences.

[Tinfoil Hat]

On 10/13/2024 at 3:58 PM, RobinJ said:

I'm curious to know why you wanted rid of it back when it was happening. Did it feel bad in any way or was it purely a fear response?

Have you tried self hypnosis or via a professional, perhaps that may give you the break through.

This may sound a bit weird, but I had a similar experience in the beginning of my spiritual wake up thing, except mine was more like a pulsating, vibrating energy going up and down my body. It was so strong my physical body was vibrating and my fingers were kind of buzzing. I thought it was a dream to begin with and I touched my leg with my hands and could feel the buzzing through my skin! Very bizarre.

The thing you said about extreme tiredness reminded me that I was in an extreme tiredness state too when it happened ( and was also experimenting with energy movement the previous days).

 

I'm thinking its possible that we get shown weird stuff like this to see if we can be jolted out of the matrix sleep system, to push us on to our true path perhaps? To get us curious and asking questions.

Might be worth researching you experience more to see if you can dig deeper and get answers via others experiences.

What you're describing sounds very much like what I felt. It was an incredibly strong physical feeling, and wanting rid was a fear response because I didn't understand what was going on. It felt like something I couldn't control much - except that I could will it to subside rather than allowing whatever climax (not sexual of course, but it's the most accurate description I can think of) to just overwhelm me. 

 

I'd had it on and off for my entire life, but it's never happened since that incident where I whole-heartedly resisted it. If it happened now, I'd ride the dragon, so to speak, on the assumption that it's a separating from your physical form, enabling astral projection. I would welcome it, in fact. 

[RobinJ]

7 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

What you're describing sounds very much like what I felt. It was an incredibly strong physical feeling, and wanting rid was a fear response because I didn't understand what was going on. It felt like something I couldn't control much - except that I could will it to subside rather than allowing whatever climax (not sexual of course, but it's the most accurate description I can think of) to just overwhelm me. 

 

I'd had it on and off for my entire life, but it's never happened since that incident where I whole-heartedly resisted it. If it happened now, I'd ride the dragon, so to speak, on the assumption that it's a separating from your physical form, enabling astral projection. I would welcome it, in fact. 

Yes I totally understand, though for me personally, I'm such a curious person it was more of a WTF was that reaction  

I know from talking to lots who are, let's say, spiritually curious or interested, that fear is a big factor in shutting stuff down. We just have to realise that we have the control, not who we think "they" are. You already proved that to yourself by being able to shut it down.

I'll give you another example.

 

A couple of months ago I was dreaming that a golem type creature was chasing me across a kind of wasteland. I woke up in the middle to pay a visit to the bathroom. When I fell back to sleep I went straight back to where I left off. However, for some reason I suddenly stopped, turned around, held out my arm in a stop type signal, and said firmly " stop! You will not invade my dreams." The creature that was chasing me started to diminish in size and sort of sulked away.

How wild is that?! I've never done that before, so that was a big learning curve. 

We have the power, nobody else.

[Tinfoil Hat]

I'd been bothered by this experience periodically since very early childhood. I too am curious (borne of being raised in a haunted house) and have thwarted unwelcome presences on rare occasions, but you do also have to be aware that, just as there are people who would do you harm, given the opportunity, I believe there are other entities also that should be avoided, and if in doubt, I'd err towards taking evasive action.

 

My younger sister practised some astral projection, but stopped after being pursued by some kind of predatory 'being', during which she felt her life was at stake. 

 

The whole thing fascinates me. 

 

I practised white witchcraft for a spell (deliberate pun) and am a Reiki practitioner (lapsed though) and did a diploma in hypnosis, so have always had an interest in these things. There's no doubt in my mind that there is much around us that we don't understand, and that some energies can be tapped into. 

 

As I age, I find it exhausting just working full time and running a house. I wish I could afford to retire so that precious time could be spent exploring interests like these, and arts & crafts.

Edited October 19, 2024 by Tinfoil Hat

[Tinfoil Hat]

I meant to add that what you did - lucid dreaming, where you are aware and take control while still in a sleep state - is reputed to be a step towards astral travel.

[RobinJ]

3 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

I meant to add that what you did - lucid dreaming, where you are aware and take control while still in a sleep state - is reputed to be a step towards astral travel.

I've only ever astral travelled once (that i know about), a very long time ago. My information comes now via dreams, visions and intuitive hits of "knowing"

Letting go of fear is the biggest and most useful thing to learn, from my experience.

[Tinfoil Hat]

As long as leaving fear behind doesn't cause you to neglect caution. Those 2 things are linked, and come down to applying judgement.

[RobinJ]

On 10/20/2024 at 5:22 AM, Tinfoil Hat said:

As long as leaving fear behind doesn't cause you to neglect caution. Those 2 things are linked, and come down to applying judgement.

Well nowadays its more like the letting go of fear related stuff creates its own protection.  Weird, but true for me anyway.

BTW you definitely need time to yourself to explore these things otherwise the matrix treadmill will get ya and drag you back in!