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23 minutes ago, song said:

Why should we let the Israeli government have their way and let people move to some other place/country? What should be done is very simple, sanctions for all the land that they occupy and the homes they bulldoze. It can be done today if political leaders had the balls.

 

The US government has been pumping billions into Israel for decades. Trump has surrounded himself with Zionist advisors.

Look at some of the pro-Israeli decisions he's made since he came to power.

Can you really see that happening?

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erm, wtf, no.   put aside the immorality of displacement, genocide, colonialism, land theft and letting israel off the hook for their crimes against humanity you also have to put into the eq

Woah.. So we just allow evil to take over the world? What are we all doing here then, if not to discover the real truth and together find ways of changing the evil that persists in the world? The pl

Yep, like I alluded to in another post, every four years they can choose either the red flavor or the blue flavor, but at the end of the day it's the same agenda with different coloring.

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8 minutes ago, Storm in the garden said:

 

The US government has been pumping billions into Israel for decades. Trump has surrounded himself with Zionist advisors.

Look at some of the pro-Israeli decisions he's made since he came to power.

Can you really see that happening?

 

Exactly, but the Q people and Trump supporters on this forum think Donald Trump is their hero! It's nuts! Unless they are Jewish

or Christian Zionists or paid up members of the Zionist Western Governments.

 

 

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On 5/19/2020 at 1:42 PM, song said:

If politicians don't listen and companies and the masses aren't prepared to boycot Israel themselves, the occupation continues like it has been since forever sadly. But, the last thing that should be done is to give Israel green light with a plan of moving Palestinians to another place and let Israel take over. That would be absolute betrayal.

 

Yes that is correct.

This feeling ... of ... never giving up, to hold the cause ... well I understand it well.  And there is value in it.

But at the same time on this planet it can lead to death ... this world is so un-natural ... it is chaos.

So, you do have to fight ... but if you are in this kind of situation, I believe the writing is on the wall.

I used to campaign for justice.

Anyway ... you know in Taoism they say that you conquer this world by allowing things to take their course.

And that you tame a wild horse by giving him a large field.

Some things just need space.

There is an art to walking through open doors rather than struggling with closed ones.

There is such violent emotions in Israel connected to ideas of a hollocaust and viscious military money and insane zionists .... it's like a triple cancer.

I would simply avoid it.

Saudi, where Muhammed, was born ... where Mecca is located ... is allies with the US - what the hell does that say ?  Everyone is going to compromise and work out deals apart from ... Palestinians ?  It's like they are being required to hold a standard that everyone else isn't ?  It's like the externalized guilt or something.

 

It's like with nuclear power and electric cars ... and whatever.  At the end I am all for being simply practical.  You can't fight human insanity for long.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:

Exactly, but the Q people and Trump supporters on this forum think Donald Trump is their hero! It's nuts!

 

Yep, like I alluded to in another post, every four years they can choose either the red flavor or the blue flavor, but at the end of the day it's the same agenda with different coloring.

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If there are Palistinians who want to emigrate, however, they should be free to do so. But it shouldn't be decided by some higher entity (UN, EU) that everyone should leave because Israel just doesn't want to change its misbehaviour. It would be like rewarding a naughty child as it implicitly gives green light to Israel to occupy at full force now. From the perspective of economic prosperity it could be better if they'd find another country, but it should be an entirely individual choice to emigrate. If there are Palestinians who want to move, they should be supported, but there shouldn't be a plan to pressure an entire population to resettle because of Israel.

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Funny, I was actually just looking into this topic and found these websites which explains how modern Jewish people are not of Semitic lineage but are in fact Huns, Bulgars, Khazars, etc from the Caucasus mountain region near the Black and Caspian seas.


Of course when you speak about this to Jewish people they get very angry because it basically exposes them as people who have been living a lie their entire life, and that they really are not "the chosen ones" like thy were told by rabbi's. This also exposes that they are not of Semitic lineage and that the government and media calling people "anti-Semitic" is a bunch of BS they use to bully people.


https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/european-jews-are-not-semites-by-rehmat/


https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm#The Thirteenth Tribe

 

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trib02.htm


Who the real Semitic people are:

 

https://www.scionofzion.com/anti-semitic.htm


This is why I don't really get into theology very much, because it basically boils down to being a tool for division and control over people.


I went down the rabbit hole trying to figure out this Khazarian Jewish Zionist thing years ago and eventually I got to the point where I realized that there are much bigger things going on. The religion/theology topic leads to the Anunnaki but most people don't want to go there because "God". Their God is mightier than the other persons God when in reality they are the same, and God is the infinite electromagnetic energy creator of all things like your desk and chair can actually be reduced to energy and light, but since this gets into very complex physics and things we cannot see and explain most people dismiss it not possible. Until they try Ayahuasca and see the actual matrix for what it is. Lol. Or until they have a near death experience.


The zionist state of israel though, in my eyes, are illegitimate since basically Britain gave away the land to rothschild without talking to the people who lived there first. That would be like the US president giving away Alaska to Canada because Canada believed that it was their religious right to claim that land. It's all silly really to fight over land the way humans do as Earth doesn't really belong to us, we are simply visitors here for a short time before moving on to the next level whatever that may be.

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13 hours ago, Messenger said:

Funny, I was actually just looking into this topic and found these websites which explains how modern Jewish people are not of Semitic lineage but are in fact Huns, Bulgars, Khazars, etc from the Caucasus mountain region near the Black and Caspian seas.


Of course when you speak about this to Jewish people they get very angry because it basically exposes them as people who have been living a lie their entire life, and that they really are not "the chosen ones" like thy were told by rabbi's. This also exposes that they are not of Semitic lineage and that the government and media calling people "anti-Semitic" is a bunch of BS they use to bully people.


https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/european-jews-are-not-semites-by-rehmat/


https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm#The Thirteenth Tribe

 

https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trib02.htm


Who the real Semitic people are:

 

https://www.scionofzion.com/anti-semitic.htm


This is why I don't really get into theology very much, because it basically boils down to being a tool for division and control over people.


I went down the rabbit hole trying to figure out this Khazarian Jewish Zionist thing years ago and eventually I got to the point where I realized that there are much bigger things going on

Excellent point . I've mentioned elsewhere I have some Jewish ancestry and when I did my ancestry DNA (pre awakening) I was surprised there was no Arab genetics but I did have 10% caucasus DNA. I was confused and had to look up what this meant. That's when I came across the khazars.  Weirder still...ancestry DNA have now "updated" my results and in the current version all reference to caucasus has disappeared..although if you trawl back through the data you find it still there but tucked away. Have no idea why they are doing this.

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12 minutes ago, kj35 said:

Weirder still...ancestry DNA have now "updated" my results and in the current version all reference to caucasus has disappeared..although if you trawl back through the data you find it still there but tucked away. Have no idea why they are doing this.

 

Yeah, I was reading a list online of great american inventors going back.  And I noticed that some fairly insignificant female inventors were sprinkled about through the years ... but the interesting thing was that all the females were added to the list in 2014 after a policy change - the date of the addition to the list was included.  So it seems that following a new agenda historians had been scouring the history to find any female who had done something - even if it was comparatively very small - and sticking them in.

Must protect the false self and its ideologies.

 

Anyway yesterday the PLO withdrew from all agreements and accords with Israel and America.  The Islamic world should rescue them and all the artifacts as well.

 

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Although I have respect for Jewish law and wisdom and practice, how many actually keep it up these days.

I heard about this book a few years back.

The interesting thing about this book I suppose is that it is opposed by Orthodox Jews but also somehow music to the ears of relativist people who which to be told there is no Judaism or God or anything so they can "do what they like".

But this is not the case, Judaism is very fine, and there is great wisdom in the Talmud for instance.

So basically Orthodox Jews are not really the problem ... it is always the lower world and lower people who simply cannot understand God at all.  They cause all the problems, trying to use these ideas to expedite their violent aims.  They do not comprehend other aims.

(nice artwork on the cover btw)

 

 

 

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i think it would be hilarious if the Palestinians were 'resettled' in , urrrrmmm, Tanis and the surrounding area

 

then we can all laugh at the irony of the Jews claiming Jerusalem as the holy land while kicking the Palestinians to Tanis

 

i would chuckle every day at that

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31 minutes ago, rideforever said:

So basically Orthodox Jews are not really the problem ... it is always the lower world and lower people who simply cannot understand God at all.

 

I agree rideforever, to understand God and Israel (being the apple of God's eye) is the key to understanding this problem. 

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1 hour ago, kj35 said:

Excellent point . I've mentioned elsewhere I have some Jewish ancestry and when I did my ancestry DNA (pre awakening) I was surprised there was no Arab genetics but I did have 10% caucasus DNA. I was confused and had to look up what this meant. That's when I came across the khazars.  Weirder still...ancestry DNA have now "updated" my results and in the current version all reference to caucasus has disappeared..although if you trawl back through the data you find it still there but tucked away. Have no idea why they are doing this.

Interesting, Kj35, thanks for sharing that. I believe they are trying to cover up the history so people don't learn the truth, because like I said, I eventually ended up at Sumeria and that links to off planet entities. See that Klaus Dona presentation on the hidden history of the human race. They throw it in our faces, it's right under our nose, with their Orion.

 

In rereading my post it kind of comes off as abrasive towards Jewish people and I want to make clear that I don't have anything against Jewish people personally except that I am simply tired of the fallacies being clung to that *some* use to absolve themselves of certain behavior, but I do believe that many of them have a complex or an attitude because of the Holocaust. It sucks that it happened, but since I ask too many questions I wondered what the word Holocaust means and I found that it actually means burnt offering. Which I found strange and then more questions flow to me, like, who is offering up souls and to whom? As if I have to ask that. :classic_dry:

 

But in regards to offering up souls, those in control have been doing it all over the planet for centuries. Vietnam war which was based on lies with the Gulf of Tonkin incident. Pearl Harbor, there are some fallacies behind that one I found. Iraq, goes without saying, what a whopper of BS that one was. Libya, hey just don't you dare try making Libya independent and strong Ghaddafi, with your Great Man Made River and Dinar, or else. Syria, and ISIS. Ok well now who is ISIS? The goddess of magic! There's the black magicians honoring their ancestors. And then Ukraine, oh well the Ukraine was rich in natural gas and it was said quietly that the Khazars were reclaiming their actual homeland. And then Russia were the bad guy for protecting Ukraine. And now China. And Palestine, the worst Holocaust of them all actually, going on a century! So yeah, a lot of Holocausting going on all over the world.

 

And Palestine, I have come across articles that talk about how the israel government actually funded Hamas as a means to have an excuse to attack Palestine, and knowing israel government's record, I don't doubt it.

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3 minutes ago, entelechy said:

When you realize there are no absolutes, the only imperative is to not harm any other living being. Those who accept absolutism are inclined to start referring to living beings in terms of absoulte good and absolute evil and this is a dangerous slippery-slope. Reality is far more complex

 

Well let's put some flesh on the bones.

Can we really have as a principle not to harm living beings ?  What about the endless war going on in the blood stream ?  Killing millions of organisms every day.  Is it different for the celestial bodies that fight it out up there ?
That idea is fine as an orientation, it teaches what is good and life giving, and what is bad.  And it is a fine idea to begin with.

But it is superficial.

What of a person that lives badly ... his entire organism being a harm for all of existence.  And another person lives well, uses all his faculties and grows ... that person becomes beneficient.

But ... if we only had saints, life would have no sand from which to make pearls.  We need conflict in fact, at this level.

We must engage with whatever comes, good and bad, and learn from it ... learn deep lessons and learn to transform all situations inside and out into growth ... growth of intelligence which is the fundamental direction.

Most people think they are "just here".  But actually you are continuously transforming energy as part of a vast permaculture, air food even what you think ... all these are transformations of energy inside your "engine".  We are engines that are continuously active ... but whether we transform well > to higher substances, or badly reflects our level.

Plants also transform through "photosynthesis", everything does.

And so on ...

 

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24 minutes ago, rideforever said:

Can we really have as a principle not to harm living beings ? 

It's the only principle which matters and anyone who doesn't understand this is not as spiritually advanced as they like to think they are. Christianity accomadates the warped morality of human beings. It allows them to relinquish moral responsibility for their own actions and still be saved. It condemns all killing, except when its 'Just War', which it always is when Christian interests are at stake. It doesn't surprise me you have respect for Jewish law because you worship the same warlord. Christianity is the more hypocritical of the two religions.

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1 hour ago, Messenger said:

Interesting, Kj35, thanks for sharing that. I believe they are trying to cover up the history so people don't learn the truth, because like I said, I eventually ended up at Sumeria and that links to off planet entities. See that Klaus Dona presentation on the hidden history of the human race. They throw it in our faces, it's right under our nose, with their Orion.

 

In rereading my post it kind of comes off as abrasive towards Jewish people and I want to make clear that I don't have anything against Jewish people personally except that I am simply tired of the fallacies being clung to that *some* use to absolve themselves of certain behavior, but I do believe that many of them have a complex or an attitude because of the Holocaust. It sucks that it happened, but since I ask too many questions I wondered what the word Holocaust means and I found that it actually means burnt offering. Which I found strange and then more questions flow to me, like, who is offering up souls and to whom? As if I have to ask that. :classic_dry:

 

But in regards to offering up souls, those in control have been doing it all over the 

I don't think it came off as abrasive. And couldn't agree more on everything else you say here. I've also got rhesus neg blood and completely believe the annunaki DNA engineered homo  sapiens from homo erectus. Hence anthropologists will never find the 'missing link' while they are in denial. I do wonder if the grand revelation of their tinkering will form part of the fake alien invasion agenda. 

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If you pause that clip from Raiders of the Lost Ark (above) at 6:50, it's interesting to see a flying saucer in the illustration of the Ark.

Some time ago the vatican asked Mauro Biglino to translate the bible word for word from the Stuttgartensia Bible and he discovered many references to UFO's and ET's.

So a hypothesis: Is the god of the Abrahamic religions one of these ET's, who acts rather differently in the Old testament to how he is portrayed in the New. Have we been misled into

focusing our energy onto this being rather than the Origin/Source/Creator of All That Is?

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On 5/17/2020 at 10:32 PM, rideforever said:

It seems to me that the best option for the Palestinians is for a new city or cities to be built for them somewhere in the Islamic world.  Perhaps Egypt, Libya, Oman.

The USA / Israel can pay huge amounts, and with large contributions from the EU and from the Oil Nations it could be done successfully.

I think it would also be a good idea to dismantle and move the Dome of the Rock and take the Rock with them, and any other Islamic shrines in the region and just leave.  Then the new cities can have a new Islamic centre and relocate the Dome of the Rock (and the Rock) and other shrines around them.

I think this is financially possible given the amount of interested parties.

And I see no other solution.

 

The viscous evil coming from Israel / USA/ UK on the subject cannot be really opposed, it is the dark wound that they carry.

Do not oppose evil.

 

I think that there are not so many muslim shrines in the area - most are simply stone houses.  They could be dismantled stone by stone along with the topsoil and graves and relocated quite easily.

 

Dome of the Rock would need more work but not that much, it's full of bullet holes anyway.  It would be better for it to be re-located somewhere far away from the evil there.  And the people too.

 

 

 

 

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I actually have a much better solution, we round up every Zionist in the world be they Christian  Jew or whatever and we deport the bloody lot of them to ascension island we could even transport that wall they are so fond of wailing at there for them. Now here me out. its plenty big enough its under British rule and no fucker lives there so its not displacing anyone. just make sure no boats or planes are allowed near (apart from for deliveries) so no fucker can escape.

 

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14 hours ago, Itsjaybigjay said:

I actually have a much better solution, we round up every Zionist in the world be they Christian  Jew or whatever and we deport the bloody lot of them to ascension island we could even transport that wall they are so fond of wailing at there for them. Now here me out. its plenty big enough its under British rule and no fucker lives there so its not displacing anyone. just make sure no boats or planes are allowed near (apart from for deliveries) so no fucker can escape.

 

DAMN good idea, I have being saying something like that myself for years.

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15 hours ago, zArk said:

i know the film reference but have you read Ralph Ellis's work on King David, King Solomon, Egyptian names, etc etc?

 

I don't know anything about that.

In the film, they mention the "Well of the Souls" which according to Wikipedia is under the Dome of the Rock; and that Tanis is a possible resting place for the Ark of the Covenant.

There are some other abandoned historical settlements on the coast of Libya.

 

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Why should the Palestinians have to leave their land on which they have lived for at least 8 centuries!? David Icke has said that most of the Israelis are Khazars who originate from the Caucasus region. Their DNA has proven that. And their ancestors left that area during the times of the Crusades, to become bankers and money lenders in Europe. So now, especially if many of them are Holocaust survivors, they shouldn't be treating the Palestinians just about the same way as they were treated by the Nazis. That is absolutely shameful. But then David Icke for one has taught us too that the Jewish Ultra-Zionists made the Holocaust happen, not caring one jot for their fellows, only for their diabolical agenda.

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On 5/19/2020 at 2:09 PM, song said:

If there are Palistinians who want to emigrate, however, they should be free to do so. But it shouldn't be decided by some higher entity (UN, EU) that everyone should leave because Israel just doesn't want to change its misbehaviour. It would be like rewarding a naughty child as it implicitly gives green light to Israel to occupy at full force now. From the perspective of economic prosperity it could be better if they'd find another country, but it should be an entirely individual choice to emigrate. If there are Palestinians who want to move, they should be supported, but there shouldn't be a plan to pressure an entire population to resettle because of Israel.

I'm out of likes song ? I agree with you.

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5 hours ago, Dagmar Gross said:

Why should the Palestinians have to leave their land on which they have lived for at least 8 centuries!? David Icke has said that most of the Israelis are Khazars who originate from the Caucasus region. Their DNA has proven that. And their ancestors left that area during the times of the Crusades, to become bankers and money lenders in Europe. So now, especially if many of them are Holocaust survivors, they shouldn't be treating the Palestinians just about the same way as they were treated by the Nazis. That is absolutely shameful. But then David Icke for one has taught us too that the Jewish Ultra-Zionists made the Holocaust happen, not caring one jot for their fellows, only for their diabolical agenda.

Excellent post DG. I'm out of likes ?

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