The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[peter]

7 hours ago, megatron3 said:

The earth isn't flat, it's actually a donut (look at the picture for proof).

Deep down I knew it, it's  rather uncomfortable  when you come to the stark realization that we are all wrong and a cartoon cat is the only one with any brains with regards to this topic

Edited August 19, 2020 by peter

[zArk]

9 hours ago, peter said:

That 's what happens when the pressure builds up to intolerable levels with no release valve

The boom we could all hear was probably your head because  (different members can insert their own conclusions here)

heh

[zArk]

12 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

That's how big this thread has got. 80 pages of bickering and arguing.

yeah, i am learning more and more by the hour

 

a few months ago i didnt even think about how special the solar eclipse is. now its incredible and true wonder

the day / night and seasons is also eye opening

 

i really do not know what the feck is going on with this challenge to globe earth but it wouldnt surprise me if the land was flat, the dome was a globe , the sun was within another globe and the underside of the land is another world

[Carlos]

 

[Lady Baynham]

so rude,so fed up of the globe shit heads resorting to insults,see what I did there.

[oddsnsods]

6 minutes ago, Lady Baynham said:

so rude,so fed up of the globe shit heads resorting to insults,see what I did there.

 

Okay cheerleading socky, I yet to see you bring one argument to the table on this thread.

[Carlos]

11 minutes ago, Lady Baynham said:

so rude,so fed up of the globe shit heads resorting to insults,see what I did there.

 

Do you believe the Earth is flat?

 

Do you require assistance feeding yourself? See what I did there? I also added a question mark and some gaps between punctuation.

[Carlos]

5 hours ago, zArk said:

yeah, i am learning more and more by the hour

 

Doesn't look like it.

 

5 hours ago, zArk said:

a few months ago i didnt even think about how special the solar eclipse is. now its incredible and true wonder

 

 

The Moon moves between the Earth and Sun and blocks out all the light - flat earth gibberish would mess up your magic marble refraction.

 

5 hours ago, zArk said:

the day / night and seasons is also eye opening

 

 

How is it? The globe explains it, flat earth doesn't even explain a sunset/sunrise.

 

5 hours ago, zArk said:

i really do not know what the feck is going on with this challenge to globe earth but it wouldnt surprise me if the land was flat, the dome was a globe , the sun was within another globe and the underside of the land is another world

 

You should have stopped typing at the bolded section. There is no "challenge" to the global earth, just a few nutjobs unable to explain their crazy claimed reality whilst ignoring copious amounts of evidence.

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmWeueTF8l82GItQhl7vTP_WM43B4ebNq

 

 

[peter]

1 hour ago, Lady Baynham said:

so rude,so fed up of the globe shit heads resorting to insults,see what I did there.

Talk about clever ,that deserves a pat on the back, the words subtle and blatant come to mind but you were  only able to achieve the latter. It seems that you were that impressed with your self though you had to let every one know 

[zArk]

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

The Moon moves between the Earth and Sun and blocks out all the light

and collapses globe theory calculations and its foundation

 

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

How is it? The globe explains it, flat earth doesn't even explain a sunset/sunrise.

 

thats true globe theory does explain sunset/sunrise and i do not dispute that globe theory has an intricately meshed collection of assertions that do work out observably and mathematically but i do notice that in a few cases the system collapses upon itself

 

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

You should have stopped typing at the bolded section. There is no "challenge" to the global earth, just a few nutjobs unable to explain their crazy claimed reality whilst ignoring copious amounts of evidence.

no you misinterpreted my statement.

i was saying the resurgence of flat earth , a growing bunch of people cottoning on, seemingly FE being a domain of fundamental christianity and the counter-culture claiming its a NASA hoax to discredit conspiracy culture is a mess

@Carlos is doing a wonderfull job of representing the lovely orthodox belief system.

Edited August 20, 2020 by zArk

[Carlos]

6 minutes ago, zArk said:

and collapses globe theory calculations and its foundation

 

No dude, really it doesn't. Some eejit making daft claims in a youtube video doesn't quite cut the mustard.

 

6 minutes ago, zArk said:

thats true globe theory does explain sunset/sunrise and i do not dispute that globe theory has an intricately meshed collection of assertions that do work out observably and mathematically but i do notice that in a few cases the system collapses upon itself

 

 

Then show them one at a time and I'll see if I can draw you back from the abyss. Perhaps you could start by explaining how flat earthery explains anything?

 

6 minutes ago, zArk said:

i was saying the resurgence of flat earth , a growing bunch of people cottoning on, seemingly FE being a domain of fundamental christianity and the counter-culture claiming its a NASA hoax to discredit conspiracy culture is a mess

 

 

There is no resurgence - only a few persistent buffoons unable to explain reality or respond to the evidence.

 

6 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

@Carlos is doing a wonderfull job of representing the lovely orthodox belief system.

 

No need to @ me - I'm responding to most stuff until I get bored.

 

It's not a belief system it is the actual system. It is not a matter of belief to explain how things work, verify it in every way possible and disprove alternatives. 

[zArk]

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

No dude, really it doesn't. Some eejit making daft claims in a youtube video doesn't quite cut the mustard.

 

only sphere models were used -- earth spin, moon spin, velocity, recorded eclipse data

if you are unwilling to accept the failure of sphere explanation due to sphere theory its more indicative of spherist mentality , religious fanaticism or cult behaviour i am unsure than the type people pointing out the failure

Edited August 20, 2020 by zArk

[zArk]

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

There is no resurgence - only a few persistent buffoons unable to explain reality or respond to the evidence.

 

ermm Flat earth was an accepted fact before the globe theory took over so it is a resurgence and i would say its because

1. break down in authoritative structure

2. more tech available for people

3. greater availability of knowledge (internet)

 

among most things.

 

i am concerned in your use of the word reality. Science is supposed to describe and explain the real not reality

like the word Universe shows the scientific community is trapped in a control system which dictates their research and results

[Carlos]

18 hours ago, zArk said:

ermm Flat earth was an accepted fact before the globe theory took over so it is a resurgence and i would say its because

 

 

So was burning witches, thank you for your observation - kind of missing the point - it may well have been the consensus when there was no way to verify it, but now there is. It isn't "resurging" though is it.

 

18 hours ago, zArk said:

1. break down in authoritative structure

2. more tech available for people

3. greater availability of knowledge (internet)

 

Number 1 is irrelevant, number 2 is what shows it to be the dumbest claim on the planet, number 3 is very debatable since a tiny select few are unable to assimilate knowledge properly, just those items that confirm their beliefs.

 

18 hours ago, zArk said:

i am concerned in your use of the word reality. Science is supposed to describe and explain the real not reality

like the word Universe shows the scientific community is trapped in a control system which dictates their research and results

 

I am unconcerned about your concern. I use the word reality in terms of what is clearly observable to the vast majority. For flat earthers to be correct, it requires hundreds of thousands of people to be liars. Every single person who has been involved in a satellite launch or any other space endeavour. It requires virtually every scientist to be gullible and/or stupid. It requires all the people who observe satellites and the ISS to be lying and/or mistaken. It requires all the satellite engineers to be morons.

 

And that's just the tip of the iceberg, it doesn't even explain observable reality and uses pitifully narrow examples to generalise vast swathes of daily occurrences.

 

There is no control system regarding the shape of the world. There are people who know it is a planet as it is and there are noisy lunatics who think it is flat. There are quite a few gullible fence sitters who only see the mad videos and fail to follow up.

 

 

[Carlos]

19 hours ago, zArk said:

 

only sphere models were used -- earth spin, moon spin, velocity, recorded eclipse data

if you are unwilling to accept the failure of sphere explanation due to sphere theory its more indicative of spherist mentality , religious fanaticism or cult behaviour i am unsure than the type people pointing out the failure

 

Point me to the mathematics used to determine it was not possible. All I saw was a lot of bare assertion.

[zArk]

18 hours ago, Carlos said:

 

Point me to the mathematics used to determine it was not possible. All I saw was a lot of bare assertion.

its globe theory maths collapsing upon itself

 

 

 

 

[Carlos]

6 hours ago, zArk said:

its globe theory maths collapsing upon itself

 

 

Had to watch this a couple of times to get what this bloke is saying and finally understand what his error is. He is equating the motion and appearance of the Moon which appears to Earth observers to always travel East to West and saying that is the direction the shadow should be travelling - that is bollocks.

 

The shadow cast by a moving object will move WITH the object regardless of where it lands. Since the Moon has positive West to East velocity subtracting the rotational speed - it has to move West to East.

 

If you rely on idiots for your information you will get misinformation.

[zArk]

1 hour ago, Carlos said:

always travel East to West and saying that is the direction the shadow should be travelling - 

But he doesnt and neither do flat earthers

 

Wysiwyg

 

Wizzywhig fella

[Carlos]

47 minutes ago, zArk said:

But he doesnt and neither do flat earthers

 

Wysiwyg

 

Wizzywhig fella

 

Type in English and answer the full post!

 

He claims the MOTION of the Moon is the same as the shadow direction. Horseshit.

 

Not to mention that people actually saw the damn thing arriving at the times expected. This line of argument is absolutely absurd - no surprise there.

 

Why do you insist on jerking everyone's chain with this? You can't possibly believe it, surely!

[zArk]

 

36min 53secs .... WYSIWYG

[peter]

14 hours ago, Carlos said:

 

Type in English and answer the full post!

 

He claims the MOTION of the Moon is the same as the shadow direction. Horseshit.

 

Not to mention that people actually saw the damn thing arriving at the times expected. This line of argument is absolutely absurd - no surprise there.

 

Why do you insist on jerking everyone's chain with this? You can't possibly believe it, surely!

I think that B flat and Zark are in a partnership putting up videos on fuvk tube to suck in the gullible  for financial gain, it wouldn't surprise me that the father and son team with the 14 mile laser vid is actually b flat himself

I think an obvious vested interest is coming to the fore

Edited August 23, 2020 by peter

[alexa]

1 hour ago, peter said:

I think that B flat and Zark are in a partnership putting up videos on fuvk tube to suck in the gullible  for financial gain, it wouldn't surprise me that the father and son team with the 14 mile laser vid is actually b flat himself

I think an obvious vested interest is coming to the fore

 

This is ridiculous...........Stop being so biased Peter..... Lets face it your just against any FE'ers. WHY ?

[Lady Baynham]

15 hours ago, zArk said:

 

36min 53secs .... WYSIWYG

Oh do lets finish this before the dis-tractors descend.

Although the argument for B Flat and Ark being related and editing laser vids is compelling, one silliness at a time .

[zArk]

3 hours ago, peter said:

I think an obvious vested interest is coming to the fore

lol fella, i have said how i started looking at the inconsistencies in the sphere/globe thoery

 

the inconsistencies are not dependent upon observer, the inconsistencies are the fault of the globe model

[Carlos]

23 hours ago, zArk said:

 

 

36min 53secs .... WYSIWYG

 

No that is not the case. What an idiot sees is not what you get.

 

Ask the people who saw the eclipse, what time did it occur.

 

Watch a car travelling along the road - see its shadow? Well you use that confused brain of yours and work it out. The object travels with its shadow. The Moon has net West to East motion, therefore the shadow goes the same direction.

 

Answer MY post not the idiotic video.