The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 hour ago, MrA said:

 

No I think it proves that it is not air drag that makes things fall to Earth or their mass 

 

Mass might change the overall speed over huge distances but the rate of acceleration will be the same no.matter the mass ( inertia is a big topic as well so even in a vacuum apparently mass will eventually change the speed of an object )

 

Which is why over a short distance in.a.vaccum it looks like things are falling at exactly the same.speed 

 

With no air resistance at all , there is something that makes things come back to Earth 

 

And thats what is termed gravity and the theory is gravity relates to mass and most probably other factors IMO.such as magnetic force but thats not proven so ...

 

Any clue what an asteroid is then ? 

 

Is that the neighbors throwing rocks over the garden fence trying to get our attention ? 

 

Nope. No idea what an asteroid is really all about. When did your neighbor throw one into your backyard? All I know about asteroids is fed to me by space fakers.

[MrA]

3 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

Nope. No idea what an asteroid is really all about. When did your neighbor throw one into your backyard? All I know about asteroids is fed to me by space fakers.

 

Well I dont know how fair that is I mean asteroid showers are reasonably common all over the world 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

18 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Well I dont know how fair that is I mean asteroid showers are reasonably common all over the world 

 

You must be referring to the bright streaks in the night sky. I have never seen them close enough to confirm what they are. Have you?

 

On the sheer number of these observed do you find it reasonable that nobody is talking about them falling on them? Are they slipping into some other dimension?

[MrA]

4 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

You must be referring to the bright streaks in the night sky. I have never seen them close enough to confirm what they are. Have you?

 

On the sheer number of these observed do you find it reasonable that nobody is talking about them falling on them? Are they slipping into some other dimension?

 

Im sure we can find examples of them hitting Earth now and again 

 

But that still doesnt explain where they come from if there is no space for them to exist in outside of the dome 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

25 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Im sure we can find examples of them hitting Earth now and again 

 

But that still doesnt explain where they come from if there is no space for them to exist in outside of the dome 

 

Imagine yourself someone that has seen enough evidence that we are in a flat world. How would you explain it?

 

Would you reconsider your beliefs and dismiss all the damning proofs because you can't identify streaks of light in the sky? The flat earth does not need gravity to make its case. The globers do.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

I heard talk in this discussion about airliners correcting their level to accomodate a path over a curved surface. Airliners never correct for curvature. Nose level across the entire path.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

A text transcribed segment from a video I downloaded a while ago;

 

"Vegetables and land animals are found at nearly 80 degrees in the north while from the parallel of 58 degrees in the south the leichens and such plants only clothe the rocks and sea birds and the cetaceous tribes alone are seen upon the desolate beaches.

In the Arctic there are four clearly distinguished seasons, warm summers and an abundance of plant and animal life, non of which can be said of the Antartic."

 

This would not be possible on a ball earth but makes perfect sense on a flat model.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

More from same video:

 

"In New Zealand, situated at 42 degrees southern lattitude, on the winter solstice, the sun rises at 4:31 am and sets at 7:29 pm making the longest day of the year 14hrs 58minutes.

On the summer solstice the New Zealand sun rises at 7:29 am. And sets at 4:31 pm making the shortest day 9hrs 2minutes long.

Meanwhile in England a full 10 degrees farther north of the equator than New Zealand lies south. The longest day is 16hrs 34minutes and the shortest 7hrs 45minutes.

Therefore the longest day in New Zealand is 1hr 36minutes shorter than the longest day in England and the shortest day in New Zealand is 1hr 17minutes longer than the shortest day in England."

 

Impossible on a globe earth.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

William Swainson, an Englishman who emigrated and became attorney general of New Zealand in the mid-19th century lived in both countries for decades and wrote of their differences stating,

"The range of temperature is limited there being no excess of either heat or cold compared with the climate of England.

The summer of New Zealand is but very little warmer though considerably longer. Even in summer people here have no notion of going without fires in the evening but then, though the days are very warm and sunny the nights are always cold.

For seven months last summer we had not one day that the sun did not shine as brilliantly as it does in England in the finest day in June and though it has more power here the heat is not nearly so oppressive. But then there is not the twighlight that you get in England.

Here it is light until about 8:00 pm then in a few minutes it becomes too dark to see anything. And the change comes over in almost no time."

Exactly what you might expect on a flat plane world.

[MrA]

6 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

William Swainson, an Englishman who emigrated and became attorney general of New Zealand in the mid-19th century lived in both countries for decades and wrote of their differences stating,

"The range of temperature is limited there being no excess of either heat or cold compared with the climate of England.

The summer of New Zealand is but very little warmer though considerably longer. Even in summer people here have no notion of going without fires in the evening but then, though the days are very warm and sunny the nights are always cold.

For seven months last summer we had not one day that the sun did not shine as brilliantly as it does in England in the finest day in June and though it has more power here the heat is not nearly so oppressive. But then there is not the twighlight that you get in England.

Here it is light until about 8:00 pm then in a few minutes it becomes too dark to see anything. And the change comes over in almost no time."

Exactly what you might expect on a flat plane world.

 

Axial tilt 

[serpentine]

1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

A text transcribed segment from a video I downloaded a while ago;

 

"Vegetables and land animals are found at nearly 80 degrees in the north while from the parallel of 58 degrees in the south the leichens and such plants only clothe the rocks and sea birds and the cetaceous tribes alone are seen upon the desolate beaches.

In the Arctic there are four clearly distinguished seasons, warm summers and an abundance of plant and animal life, non of which can be said of the Antartic."

 

This would not be possible on a ball earth but makes perfect sense on a flat model.

 

Perhaps the Sun lives at the North Pole?

 

 

[MrA]

3 hours ago, MrA said:

 

Well I dont know how fair that is I mean asteroid showers are reasonably common all over the world 

 

I should have said meteor showers really

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 hour ago, MrA said:

 

Axial tilt 

 

How does axial tilt affect the length of time of rotation in the globe model. Your world spins at different speeds for upper hemispheres and lower hemispheres? More physics denials.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 minute ago, MrA said:

 

I should have said meteor showers really

 

Doesn't disprove the flat earth in the least. 

[MrA]

1 hour ago, serpentine said:

 

Perhaps the Sun lives at the North Pole?

 

 

 

That doesnt look like the kitchen model at all 

 

 

[MrA]

3 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

Doesn't disprove the flat earth in the least. 

 

Where are the asteroids and comets coming from then ? 

 

Can space exist in the FE model ? 

[MrA]

deleted silly comment 

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by MrA

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

43 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Where are the asteroids and comets coming from then ? 

 

Can space exist in the FE model ? 

 

In your opinion how fast are these objects tracking across the sky? Would 10,000 mph sound about right?

 

Does space exist? Good question. If the existance of space depended on the attempts by NASA and others to convince us it exists I would think it does not. If it does I am not sold on the vast vacuum idea. I think most agree that our enclosed world is bathing in something. Scriptures speak of water below and above. Some kind of submerged life system.

 

Equally interesting is what may lie below the earth crust. The deepest ever dug was the Russians at 8 miles. We have no idea how far down is below exactly. Scriptures get too spiritual at this level to yield for me any practical explanations.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Many may not be aware that people have claimed they "heard" shooting stars. Experts say this is a radiowave effect created by the object and induced into electrical wires and that explains the sound. 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

So, they are bright, they make noise and they are very fast. But never seen up close in flight. Nobody ever on the receiving end as if it does not make landfall. Often seen in clusters or formations. Never shooting up. Interesting meteor fragments indeed.

[MrA]

24 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

So, they are bright, they make noise and they are very fast. But never seen up close in flight. Nobody ever on the receiving end as if it does not make landfall. Often seen in clusters or formations. Never shooting up. Interesting meteor fragments indeed.

 

https://earthsky.org/todays-image/china-five-hundred-meter-aperture-spherical-telescope

 

Largest telescope of its kind built in China 

 

The stars are not stationary they move and so what are they moving around in ? 

 

For example the far south of the equator cannot see Polaris 

 

But the northern hemisphere does 

 

How does that work on the flat plane ? 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2020 by MrA

[alexa]

6 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Flatliners on the attack again..making the forum look nuts.

 No it's not, we're just trying to educate you baller's 

[Nobby Noboddy]

38 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

https://earthsky.org/todays-image/china-five-hundred-meter-aperture-spherical-telescope

 

Largest telescope of its kind built in China 

 

The stars are not stationary they move and so what are they moving around in ? 

 

For example the far south of the equator cannot see Polaris 

 

But the northern hemisphere does 

 

How does that work on the flat plane ? 

 

 

Why do you keep asking basic questions that can be answered with a look around IFERS?

 

Have you changed species?

 

If you don't like the idea forget about it, but don't expect people to give you thorough explanations if you're not prepared to accept and investigate for yourself and just post another few basic questions.

 

I think you'll find that for all the ridicule we receive once the realisation has hit home it becomes unshakeable. There are many questions that still arise and one finds that one has to learn stuff outside the normal view etc.

 

There are many opinions as to shape, overall size, dome or not, firmament, infinite plane or terraces, moon reflections etc. etc.

 

But the basic facts of FLAT and STATIONARY are obvious to the open, inquiring mind. And once you know, you know.

 

"When you go flat, you can't go back".

 

And anyone who says they've seen the curve is a fucking liar who needs to prove it.

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 hour ago, MrA said:

For example the far south of the equator cannot see Polaris 

 

How does that work on the flat plane ? 

 

And you can't see the sun at night even with a telescope. It all has to do with the vanishing point phenomenon. Just to put things into perspective the outer ice wall is 60,000 miles in circumference. I can see where a sun-at-93-million-miles believer might imagine he could see the sun at night on a flat plane with a telescope.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd