bflat Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, alexa said: @Carlos these meme's prove nothing, you'll have to come up with better than that ..........sorry to say! No, we are fed up of explaining it........ you explain it, how these work on your globe......... They have already moved on to dishonest memes. Take the win, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 This is what water actually does in the real world: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 I chalk this whole thing up to indoctrination and blind faith. I mean considering there is not one replicable experiment that can be done that shows water curving around a ball or sticking to outside of any spinning shape for that matter, what is left? Logical fallacies? See if this helps: Partnerships Implementing Engineering Education Worcester Polytechnic Institute – Worcester Public Schools Supported by: National Science Found Changing shape of water Grade Level 1 Sessions Session I: Use different containers to show water takes on the shape of it’s container – 15 minute Physical Sciences Identify objects and materials as solid, liquid, or gas. Recognize that solids have a definite shape and that liquids and gases take the shape of their container. Here guys, as always, I beg of you to not take my word or anyone's. Experiment for yourselves. You can try this lesson here: https://web.wpi.edu/Images/CMS/PIEE/1c3.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 6:13 PM, oddsnsods said: Electrical poles how many miles long you say? just some weird 'lightening' type discharge in the sky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Carlos said: o_0 why is the light source further from the land in the bottom image? i thought it was pretty much accepted by both sides that the light source is close in the bottom image ... way closer than the claimed 150 million miles for the represented top image also you can see the light distortion at the apparent horizon right??? Edited August 18, 2020 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Carlos said: Explain the sunset and explain a lunar eclipse. i tried to explain the solar eclipse with helio/sphere calculations and it doesnt work out... . time to face the facts that a shadow of the moon doesnt travel faster than the moon yet the eclipse was observed across 14,000 km in 5 hours west to east that .... doesnt .... work ..... for ... the globe model ..... its impossible... the model collapses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, zArk said: tried to explain the solar eclipse with helio/sphere calculations and it doesnt work out... Wow ,just because you can't do it , it must be so You have won so many chess games lately with check ,mate and checkmate , not to mention globe model collapses, but the funny thing is your side doesn't have any model to speak of and can't even explain night and day effectively, (please don't put up that silly sun and moon explanation video again) until you can, actually taking you seriously is rather somewhat difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 hours ago, bflat said: They have already moved on to dishonest memes. Take the win, lol. Well we have only taken lessons from you ,and what an excellent teacher you turned out to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 hours ago, zArk said: just some weird 'lightening' type discharge in the sky How come we see lightning going from cloud to cloud and from the earth to the cloud but we never see lightning going from the clouds to the dome ,there would obviously be a static potential difference between the two though that must be feasible, just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 4 hours ago, zArk said: just some weird 'lightening' type discharge in the sky Not electrical poles no more then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, peter said: but we never see lightning going from the clouds to the dome Yes we do, they are called Sprites. Edited August 18, 2020 by alexa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 10:09 PM, alexa said: Please explain why it wouldn't on a flat plane........ https://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm You explain to me how the sun sets on a flat plane in your own words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, alexa said: Yes we do, they are called Sprites. OK You got me with the sprites 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: You explain to me how the sun sets on a flat plane in your own words. The sun doesn't actually set it carries on going through what is called the 6 portals or Gates throughout the night. There are 12 portals in total in which the sun travels through in 24 hrs. The sun goes down from the heaven and returns through the north in order to reach the east. PS Edit Edit It just seems like the sun is setting but in actual fact it is still traveling around. Edited August 18, 2020 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, alexa said: The sun doesn't actually set it carries on going through what is called the 6 portals or Gates throughout the night. There are 12 portals in total in which the sun travels through in 24 hrs. The sun goes down from the heaven and returns through the north in order to reach the east, The bible told you this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, oddsnsods said: The bible told you this? No..... The book of Enoch https://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 35 minutes ago, peter said: OK You got me with the sprites Only because I can't be bothered to research an alternative explination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, alexa said: No..... The book of Enoch https://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/boe/boe075.htm That Jewish nonsense doesn't explain a sun set. It claims the sun revolves around the flat earth for 30 days before moving to a new gate through a portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, peter said: Only because I can't be bothered to research an alternative explination Just swap dome for ionosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Thanks odds ,just a slight brain freeze ,it's getting too much for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 4 hours ago, oddsnsods said: That Jewish nonsense doesn't explain a sun set. It claims the sun revolves around the flat earth for 30 days before moving to a new gate through a portal. I hadn't realized you wanted the perspective of the sun at sunset. It's strange how this guy in this vid makes so many masonic hand gestures.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatsthat Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 18 hours ago, theo102 said: The Elite have been controlling what we've been taught in schools for years. What we learned was meant to leave us confused and to think the opposite. Who's to say the sun travels around us? We get 'sunrise' and 'sundown'. it makes more sense (forgetting what we learned in school) that it travels over the earth then under. Personally, I dont think the earth is spining, seems still to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Not electrical poles no more then? well there has to be a + ve and -ve imbalance for the effect to be seen, if it is indeed an electrical phenomenon 8 hours ago, peter said: How come we see lightning going from cloud to cloud and from the earth to the cloud but we never see lightning going from the clouds to the dome ,there would obviously be a static potential difference between the two though that must be feasible, just a thought well, i think even with lightening scientists are still arguing over the mechanism. imo, with absolutely no proof or evidence, people create the conditions for the lightening and in some way create the conditions for the appearance of electrical tracers over the sky imo, peoples emotional conditions create the weather but this is something completely different to this this discussion thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 @threadwatchers what happened to @truegroup ? dropped that big post and then buggered off. i mean wtf! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megatron3 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 1:04 AM, bflat said: @ evryone who is scared of facts and physics: --Laser tests over several miles --A 1000 mile horizon taken from a passenger jet --Brian Shul, USAF (retired) seeing Canada from above Tucson, NM at 85,000 feet --Water curving around a ball or any shape has never been proven in any replicable or observable way --Laser experiments show the exact opposite --Multiple emergency landings - pilots, nor ship's captains have ever... they have never used a globe to navigate from - they would be lost which is why they have always used something close to the freemason's UN flag (great circle routes are pure reified idiocy brought to you from disney) Need I go on? Ok, how 'bout nasa's own tech manuals? I'm not talking about the kiddie BS they teach wannabees and 'goy - NOPE - here are their own technical documents. While this makes perfect sense to the loudest handful on here, for those reading along, I would really... really... really...Like you to think about this: NASA Technical Memorandum 104330; Predicted Performance of a Thrust-Enhanced SR-71 Aircraft with an External Payload (Page 8 - Digital Performance Simulation Description) "The DPS equations of motion use four assumptions ... a nonrotating Earth." https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88507main_H-2179.pdf NASA Technical Note: A Method for Reducing The Sensitivity of Optimal Nonlinear Systems to Parameter Uncertainty (Page 12 Problem Statement) ... "(2) A flat, nonrotating Earth" https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19710018599.pdf NASA Technical Note; Calculation of Wind Compensation for Launching of Unguided Rockets (Page 8 Trajectory Simulation, 2nd Paragraph) ..."this simulation assumes ... the missile position in space is computed relative to a flat nonrotating Earth" https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040008097.pdf NASA Technical Paper 2768; User's Manual for LINEAR, a FORTRAN Program to Derive Linear Aircraft Models (Page 12, Program Overview) ... “Within the program, the nonlinear equations of motion include 12 states representing a rigid aircraft flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat nonrotating Earth” https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88072main_H-1259.pdf NASA Technical Paper 2835; "User's Manual for LINEAR, a FORTRAN Program to Derive Linear Aircraft Models" (Page 1, Summary) AND (Page 126 , Report Documentation Page, Section 16) "The nonlinear equations of motion used are six-degree-of-freedom equations with stationary atmosphere and flat, nonrotating earth assumptions." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19890007066.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum; Determination of Angles of Attack and Sideslip from Radar Data and a Roll Stabilized Platform (Page 2, Section 16.) “The method is limited, however, to application where a flat, nonrotating earth may be assumed.” NASA Contractor Report 186019; An Aircraft Model for the AIAA Controls Design Challenge (Page 11, Equation of Motion and Atmospheric Model) ... “The nonlinear equations of motion used in this model are general six-degree-of-freedom equations representing the flight dynamics of a rigid aircraft flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat nonrotating Earth.” https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88248main_H-1777.pdf NASA Contractor Report 3073; Investigation of Aircraft Landing in Variable Wind Fields (Page 6, Chapter II - Aircraft Landing Model) ... "The Aircraft trajectory model employed in this study was derived based on the following assumptions: a) The Earth is flat and non-rotating. " https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790005472.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum 81238; A Mathematical Model of the CH-53 Helicopter (Page 17, Equations of Motion) .. "The helicopter equations of motion are given in body axes with respect to a flat, nonrotating Earth." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810003557.pdf Engineering Experiment Station, Georgia Institute of Technology, Prepared for NASA; Atmospheric Oscillations (Page 10) ... "A model frequently used is that of a flat, nonrotating earth." ... (next paragraph) .. "The most one can profitably simplify the problem is to consider an isothermal atmosphere, plane level surface, and a nonrotating Earth." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19650015408.pdf NASA Tecnical Paper 2002-210718; Stability and Control Estimation Flight Test Results for the SR-71 Aircraft With Externally Mounted Experiments (Pages 10-11 Equations of Motion) ... "These equations assume a rigid vehicle and a flat, nonrotating Earth." https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88733main_H-2465.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum 100996; Flight Testing a VSTOL Aircraft to Identify a Full-Envelope Aerodynamic Model (Pages 4-5, State Estimation) ... “For aircraft problems, the state and measurement models together represent the kinematics of a rigid body for describing motion over a flat, nonrotating Earth…” https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19880014378.pdf NASA Ames Research Center; Singular Arc Time-Optimal Climb Trajectory of Aircraft in a Two-Dimensional Wind Field (Page 2, Section II. Singular Arc Optimal Control) ... “In our minimum time-to-climb problem, the aircraft is modeled as a point mass and the flight trajectory is strictly confined in a vertical plane on a non-rotating, flat Earth." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20060053337.pdf Does this really matter when we live in a holographic simulation of reality,,, lol !! so silly yet I find it too amusing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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