The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[bflat]

30 minutes ago, peter said:

If you think your little trick will amaze me and my family , sorry you don't know us very well. 

Ok, let's see. Nasa math is really pretty basic.; I hope you can follow below.

 

Modern astronomy claims that earth spins west to east at about 1000 mph on the equator where you have struck the ball. So:

1000/60=16.67 <---this gives us miles per minute since there are 60 minutes in one hour

 

Now. because there are 60 seconds in one minute, let's divide that by 6 to determine how far that hole moves in just 10 seconds.

16.67/6=2.77 <---Thus we can conclude that the hole AMAZINGLY moves over 2 3/4 or nearly three miles every ten seconds!

 

Quite a drive, yes?

[bflat]

14 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

?.................. but - 20 miles obviously isn't high enough? 

It proves diddly squat?  

Need to have a camera that travels right out into space - it needs to pan RIGHT OUT there to see if earth is a ball or a flat thing?

 

Well, if you read the OP, under point one, I posted a video that I hoped would clear up this exact situation. Here it is again.

 

What this is is an open sourced 3d model of what we should see from a hot air balloon, yet never do. Be sure to pause the video at 20 miles as it continues all the way to 154 miles.

 

Most find the side-by-side comparison unmistakable, but I am really curious as to your take.

 

 

[peter]

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3 hours ago, bflat said:

Ok, let's see. Nasa math is really pretty basic.; I hope you can follow below.

 

Modern astronomy claims that earth spins west to east at about 1000 mph on the equator where you have struck the ball. So:

1000/60=16.67 <---this gives us miles per minute since there are 60 minutes in one hour

 

Now. because there are 60 seconds in one minute, let's divide that by 6 to determine how far that hole moves in just 10 seconds.

16.67/6=2.77 <---Thus we can conclude that the hole AMAZINGLY moves over 2 3/4 or nearly three miles every ten seconds!

 

Quite a drive, yes?

Simply brilliant ,how can I argue with that, . you and Alexa are obviously  in charhoots I'm banging my head against the wall now and it hurts so I hope your happy, I see you  have written amazingly in red ,so at least one of us is amazed, not only can you take replies  out of context but you are able to take math out of context as well what a brilliant skill. so next time I hit a golf ball  250 meters I will think to myself ,fuck me the earth really is flat

Just wondering if your first name is Christopher ?

 

Edited August 15, 2020 by peter

[bflat]

17 minutes ago, peter said:

...you are able to take math out of context...

Well, I have no idea as the math I used is really pretty basic and accepted even by nasa, I assure you. You can argue all your reified fallacies as much as you like, but that does not change the actual math.

 

Make no mistake, when you hit a golf ball directly north from the equator, for every ten seconds that ball is in the air, the hole will have moved nearly three miles. You can't change that... no one can. For if that changes, the entire heliocentric paradigm collapses.

 

Here, let's try lesson two of our nasa math 101 series, lol.

 

You are again standing directly on the equator, but this time you will be driving the ball directly down the equator to the west to a hole that is 350 yards away and there is no wind. You are still an alien who hits perfectly straight, 350 yards every single time.

 

QUESTION: What happens?

[peter]

4 hours ago, bflat said:

QUESTION: What happens?

I don't care any more, how's your FE model coming along

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

19 hours ago, bflat said:

All you have done is repeat the claim, fair? Are we on the same page thus far?

 

What alexa asked for and what I have been begging for are for these CLAIMS to be shown to be TRUE.

 

Can you do that or not? That is the question... we all know the claim now (hopefully).

l know that it takes around 24hrs to see the same star or constellation in the same place...(from one night to the next) .
So if l worked out the exact circumference for where l am l would be able to work out the speed l am travelling at....for that 24hr period.
You want me to work that out exactly or is the idea enough ? 
 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

18 hours ago, bflat said:

Thus we can conclude that the hole AMAZINGLY moves over 2 3/4 or nearly three miles every ten seconds!

Everything is moving at exactly the same speed in exactly the same direction.
The golfer, the ball and the hole.
 

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

15 hours ago, bflat said:

for every ten seconds that ball is in the air, the hole will have moved nearly three miles.

Again, the ball AND the hole are both moving at the same speed.

[bflat]

3 hours ago, Basket Case said:

l know that it takes around 24hrs to see the same star or constellation in the same place...(from one night to the next) .
So if l worked out the exact circumference for where l am l would be able to work out the speed l am travelling at....for that 24hr period.
You want me to work that out exactly or is the idea enough ? 
 

No, you can work out the speed the stars travel at. You do not move as the earth has not moved since creation.

 

I have shown videos, time lapse of exactly what happens and every star makes perfect concentric circles around Polaris EXACTLY AS IT APPEARS!

 

GOOGLE "STAR TRAILS AROUND POLARIS!"

 

3 hours ago, Basket Case said:

Everything is moving at exactly the same speed in exactly the same direction.
The golfer, the ball and the hole.

Total reification falacy.. c'mon, be fair.

 

3 hours ago, Basket Case said:

Again, the ball AND the hole are both moving at the same speed.

Just prove it! This is what started the whole thing... alexa asking you quite simply for your "facts" to be true!

[Carlos]

On 5/26/2020 at 3:33 AM, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

 

Picture a straight course from Taiwan to Los Angeles and you may notice on the globe earth that the closest location to make an emergency landing would be the Hawaiian Islands. 

 

 

On a globe earth this is pretty crazy halfway point. On a flat earth (U.N.)(azimuthal equidistant) map it makes perfect sense.

 

 

Hidden in plain sight 

 

Hidden in plain sight is the route on a globe -

 

 

The setting sun  proves the globe. There is no scenario or explanation whereby an object that always has to be above eye level can drop below the horizon and without changing size. It is one of the most absurd things possible that this amazingly obvious thing is ignored.

[bflat]

8 minutes ago, Carlos said:

The setting sun  proves the globe. There is no scenario or explanation whereby an object that always has to be above eye level can drop below the horizon and without changing size. It is one of the most absurd things possible that this amazingly obvious thing is ignored.

You chose to sign up here for that? Please tell me more about your beliefs, or better yet, you could prove them and end this.

[Carlos]

22 hours ago, bflat said:

Ok, let's see. Nasa math is really pretty basic.; I hope you can follow below.

 

Modern astronomy claims that earth spins west to east at about 1000 mph on the equator where you have struck the ball. So:

1000/60=16.67 <---this gives us miles per minute since there are 60 minutes in one hour

 

Now. because there are 60 seconds in one minute, let's divide that by 6 to determine how far that hole moves in just 10 seconds.

16.67/6=2.77 <---Thus we can conclude that the hole AMAZINGLY moves over 2 3/4 or nearly three miles every ten seconds!

 

Quite a drive, yes?

 

Truly epic physics fail. The Earth is to all intents and purposes a broadly enclosed system. Similar but not identical to inside a train or car, Coriolis and wind currents notwithstanding.

 

The Golfer, the ball, the air, the ground are all moving relative to each other, so the ball will not need to travel any extra distance. As can be seen on a train - throw a ball from one end to the other, duration 2 seconds, the ball is unaffected from being in the air. Take the roof off and the only difference is air resistance. Unlike the golfer and the ball on the spinning Earth, the train is in a different inertial reference frame to the air around it.

[bflat]

1 minute ago, Carlos said:

Coriolis and wind currents notwithstanding.

LOL

[alexa]

38 minutes ago, bflat said:

You do not move as the earth has not moved since creation.

 

Your right bflat, the earth does not and has never moved.

 

Quote

Psalms 93:1 "the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved."

 

[Carlos]

On 5/25/2020 at 11:20 PM, KillBill said:

 

 

 

The flat earther casually shoots himself in the foot. Notice how the Sun is now about a quarter the size and in terms of its proximity to the artificial horizon it's about halfway from when it started. Notice also all the garbage he left up because he knows full well it never goes lower than the worktop. It is impossible.

 

Edited August 15, 2020 by Carlos

[Carlos]

To really hammer this home, the sizes of the Sun projected onto his false horizon show the vanishing point on a flat Earth - looks to be on the small side. QED.

 

 

The angular velocity of the Sun anywhere on Earth is measurably the same - 15 degrees of arc per hour. This is impossible on a flat Earth with the variable distances claimed from observer to the Sun.

[Carlos]

34 minutes ago, bflat said:

You chose to sign up here for that? Please tell me more about your beliefs, or better yet, you could prove them and end this.

 

Kindly address my post and spare me your diversionary ad hominem observation. I think flat earth claimants cause severe and rightful derision and act to lump other conspiracies into the same bucket.

[Guest Gone Fishing...]

21 minutes ago, bflat said:

You chose to sign up here for that?

And you - Be Flat - chose to sign up here for what ?
What's the difference here ?
People aren't supposed to sign up and disagree with you ?
ls that in the T&Cs ?

[Bombadil]

Nothing anyone does or says or proves will ever convince a flatearther. Not one bit of evidence of flat earth provided ever. All things are scientifically testable. Flatearthers imply that you should not in anyway make use of scientific method proven or otherwise. That your own observations are not acceptable. In which case anything and everything will be dismissed out of hand.
i think that many people on this forum believe that a great deal of info now or at any period in history has been manipulated to serve an agenda, in which case Quoting a book written a very long time ago, constantly edited to suit the regime in charge at the time Is not particularly Useful or convincing. 
Not trying to offend people’s beliefs, just that the book quoted has been changed so much from original version. Also when it was first written it was done by people who could only interpret what they saw or write down stories, rumour etc, and maybe they had an agenda as well. Lot of money and power to be made from belief. Much of the info was unverifiable and most likely biased based upon writers own beliefs. This is clear when you look at modern writing. Especially news where agenda and bias are the norm to steer people in the direction wanted.

 

[alexa]

7 hours ago, Carlos said:

I think flat earth claimants cause severe and rightful derision and act to lump other conspiracies into the same bucket.

 

So what are FE's supposed to do then, disregard the truth, let NASA carry on with all their so called lies & money grabs, let them & Hollywood keep on indoctrinating our kid's heads with more of their lies ?  You know it's the truth when the PTB try their hardest to shut you up but most of all you know its the truth by the water levels (Sea Level)

 

 

[zArk]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

So what are FE's supposed to do then, disregard the truth, let NASA carry on

 

Don't you see? NASA created the flat earth strawman to take down legitimate truth seekers of global conspiracy

 

NASA made the curvature disappear so a laser can be seen over 14mikes of lake

NASA made the solar eclipse impossible with heliocentric calculations and data 

 

[peter]

Don't you see? NASA created the flat earth strawman to take down legitimate truth seekers of global conspiracy

 

NASA made the curvature disappear so a laser can be seen over 14mikes of lake

NASA made the solar eclipse impossible with heliocentric calculations and data 

 

 

Don't tell me but NASA made the Dumbocats and the Retardlicans as well

Edited August 16, 2020 by peter

[Diesel]

There are over 2 billion people in the Southern Hemisphere. If just one can prove the claim that Polaris can be viewed more than 1 degree south of the equator then this is definitive proof that the globe model is false. No need for golf balls or arguments about eclipses and sunsets. It really is as simple as that. Polaris does not move across the night sky. 

[peter]

With the procession of the equinoxes the stars move 1 deg every 72 years ,it is caused by the gravitational effects of the sun and the moon, so without correct equipment how are you going to tell if it has moved or not in relation to the earth , and I emphasize relation to the earth ,because it's the earth that is moving and not the stars, you would need 3 life times to notice it if you were lucky . Therefore you assertion that if you can't Polaris from 1% south of the equator means absolutely    nothing,and is another furphy to confuse the issue. However I do agree with you  there is no need for golf balls ,but I think sunsets and ellipses are rather relevant ,don't you 

Edited August 16, 2020 by peter

[Diesel]

18 minutes ago, peter said:

What bullshit, the earth axis is 23.5 deg from the vertical  or there about so depending on the season of course it is visible from 1 deg south of the equator.

 

 

Oh dear, perhaps you need to reread what I said. It is simply impossible to view Polaris more than 1 degree below the equator on a globe model. Earth axis and seasons are irrelevant.