The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[alexa]

Thanks for your input 'Avoiceinthecrowd' it is the truth and is much appreciated

 

PS I don't think I have enough likes for all your posts

[alexa]

@Avoiceinthecrowd Your posts about Libyan glass were interesting but have you ever heard of Ringwoodite ?

Apparently after decades of searching scientists have discovered that a vast reservoir of water, enough to fill the Earth’s oceans three times over, may be trapped hundreds of miles beneath the surface, potentially transforming our understanding of how God formed the earth.

 

The water is locked up in a mineral called Ringwoodite.

Ringwoodite acts like a sponge due to a blue crystal structure that makes it attract hydrogen and trap water.

 

One way the water could be released from the mantle is for the rocks to undergo a change in mineral structure during Noah’s Flood. Such changes in ringwoodite could release water, and this would rise through the mantle with the magma and be expelled onto the surface through volcanic eruptions. There is much evidence for abundant volcanic eruptions during the Flood.

 

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

The contrast between areas of rhe world at similar distances from the equator on opposite sides I consider to be another irrefutable proof of a flat earth again hidden in plain sight.

On a globe earth with a sun at 93 million miles away you expect both poles, north and south to exhibit similar weather patterns in temperature considering they both receive comparable sunlight.

Lets for a moment take a closer look and see how well the globe model holds up to a comparitive analysis of climactic variables for land masses at opposite but similar degrees away from the equator.

Kerguelen Island 49 degrees south latitude has 18 species of plants. Iceland at 65 degrees north latitude has 870 species of native plants.

The Isle of Georgia 54 degrees southern latitude. Can't find a shrub. Captain Cooke said;

" Unable to find a single shrub large enough to make a toothpick. Not a
Tree was to be seen. The lands that lie to the south are doomed by nature to perpetual frigidness.never to feel the warmth of the sun's rays whose horrible and savage aspect I have not words to describe. Even marine life is sparce in certain tracts of vast extent. And the seabird is seldom observed flying over such lonely wastes."

Canada and the UK are just as far from the equator on the northern latitudes yet dense forests and wildlife abound.

 

The average temperature in the Arctic is 4 degrees C. In Antarctica it is -57C dipping to -130 C.

Contrasts between the limits of organic life in Arctic and Antarctic zones is very remarkable and significant.

These differences make perfect sense on a flat plane model.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

5 hours ago, alexa said:

Thanks for your input 'Avoiceinthecrowd' it is the truth and is much appreciated

 

PS I don't think I have enough likes for all your posts

 

You are welcome. I am very passionate about this subject. I would like to see the UFO researchers studying possible scenarios involving alien species without the space context. Meaning a closer look at the possibility that our visitors originate from the same infinite plane. Criss crossing our world as they race across this vast ice universe plane. 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

9 hours ago, MrA said:

 

I dont think aircraft maintain a level path at all 

 

I once heard an Imam say the Earth cannot be round and rotating because if it was then to travel around the world all.a.plane would need to do is lift off from the ground and let the Earth rotate under it until they reach their destination and then land

 

I did not know at the time that flat earthers also refuse to accept gravity as a scientific fact 

 

Which again is just odd 

 

Thats why planes need thrust and an aerodynamic design 

 

The amount of thrust is in direct proportion to the weight of the craft when using conventional fuel 

 

If gravity is banned from the discussion because it doesnt fit in with the flat earth model.then I give up because again gravity is an observable phenomena and doesnt require youtube to prove it

 

 

 

That airplanes maintain level flight unless taking off or landing is fact not fiction.

 

People that believe the earth is a flat plane understand the force you describe as gravity to be the relative density of materials. I don't believe in magical forces holding things down. 

 

The plane needs thrust to overcome drag and because it is heavier than air.

 

Density of materials is an observable fact. Gravity is density by another name much like covid 19 is seasonal flu by another name or the firmament is the Van Allen belts. They love giving stuff new names especially to prop a failed globe model. Everything they think up has a magical formula that allows it to defy the laws of elementary physics.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Hiding a flat earth is still the biggest hoax of all time. Even covert 19 pales in comparison. The invented NASA to cover it up. They lie constantly about what they see in their powerful mountaintop telescopes. They locked down all of Antarctica.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

No airplane has ever flown pole to pole north to south, across Antarctica and back up north. Ever. Many airline paths would be far shorter and cost less in fuel if they could fly over the south pole. They can't because it is an ice ring around a flat plane.

[serpentine]

11 hours ago, MrA said:

 

So the only planet in the universe is Earth 

 

And its.flat ? 

 

 

 

Might account for all the alens holidaying here.......they might be highly advanced but they still fall for the tour operator's spiel

[Golden Retriever]

14 hours ago, MrA said:

Not too long ago men were taught that Jerusalem is the centre of the universe 

 

 

 

What does Christianity think about the flat earth and Geocentrism?

 

I haven't listened to this video yet, by it interests me.

 

 

 

Edited May 26, 2020 by Golden Retriever

[alexa]

4 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

You are welcome. I am very passionate about this subject. I would like to see the UFO researchers studying possible scenarios involving alien species without the space context. Meaning a closer look at the possibility that our visitors originate from the same infinite plane. Criss crossing our world as they race across this vast ice universe plane. 

 

Have you watched any video's of Martin Kenny? His excellent videos explained in great detail what you are talking about here;

Enjoy.

 

[alexa]

4 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

What does Christianity think about the flat earth and Geocentrism?

 

I haven't listened to this video yet, by it interests me.

 

 

 

 

You should watch this video GR, it's very good.......Thanks.

[MrA]

9 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

That airplanes maintain level flight unless taking off or landing is fact not fiction.

 

Right and if they turn their engines off mid air what happens ? 

 

In a vacuum with no wind resistance everything accelerates at the same speed toward the ground 

 

With air resistance things get more complicated 

 

Plumbing employs both vacuum and gravity systems to remove waste water 

 

https://www.plumbermag.com/how-to-articles/gravity_vacuum_system_septic/gravity_vs._vacuum

 

 

[MrA]

8 hours ago, Golden Retriever said:

 

What does Christianity think about the flat earth and Geocentrism?

 

 

 

 

 

 

IDK ive all ways thought eventually science will prove the existence of an intelligent design , the creator or God 

 

If mankind is able to recognise it when it sees it is the bigger problem IMO 

 

 

 

 

[KillBill]

17 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

IDK ive all ways thought eventually science will prove the existence of an intelligent design , the creator or God 

 

If mankind is able to recognise it when it sees it is the bigger problem IMO 

 

When I was growing up, late teens maybe, I thought that the moon blocking the sun to near pefection, was the first evidence I had encountered pointing to intelligent design.

[alexa]

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

2 hours ago, MrA said:

 

Right and if they turn their engines off mid air what happens ? 

 

The airplane is denser than air. It falls. Overcome by drag.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

2 hours ago, MrA said:

Plumbing employs both vacuum and gravity systems to remove waste water 

 

https://www.plumbermag.com/how-to-articles/gravity_vacuum_system_septic/gravity_vs._vacuum

 

Speaking of gravity and vacuums one might wonder why our atmosphere is not sucked out into the vacuum of space? Why does gravity work only in one direction?

Edited May 26, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

 

Powerful enough to hold the waters of the earth on a ball spinning at 1000 mph in a vacuum. Elementary physics denials across the board.

[MrA]

18 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

The airplane is denser than air. It falls. Overcome by drag.

 

Objects also fall inside a vacuum where there is no air 

 

So what is happening there ? 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Just now, MrA said:

 

Objects also fall inside a vacuum where there is no air 

 

So what is happening there ? 

 

Doesn't the fact that materials of verying density fall at the same rate in a vacuum contradict the gravitational law as it applies to mass?

[MrA]

40 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

Doesn't the fact that materials of verying density fall at the same rate in a vacuum contradict the gravitational law as it applies to mass?

 

No I think it proves that it is not air drag that makes things fall to Earth or their mass 

 

Mass might change the overall speed over huge distances but the rate of acceleration will be the same no.matter the mass ( inertia is a big topic as well so even in a vacuum apparently mass will eventually change the speed of an object )

 

Which is why over a short distance in.a.vaccum it looks like things are falling at exactly the same.speed 

 

With no air resistance at all , there is something that makes things come back to Earth 

 

And thats what is termed gravity and the theory is gravity relates to mass and most probably other factors IMO.such as magnetic force but thats not proven so ...

 

Any clue what an asteroid is then ? 

 

Is that the neighbors throwing rocks over the garden fence trying to get our attention ? 

Edited May 26, 2020 by MrA

[Hermetix]

All the math calculations around satellites and GPS would not work if the Earth was flat. 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 hour ago, Hermetix said:

All the math calculations around satellites and GPS would not work if the Earth was flat. 

 

There never was a need for satellites. Underwater cables have linked all the continents in the world since before that ludicrous claim to orbiting satellites.

Edited May 27, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

 

The one hoaxing a ball earth does not. Ends up defying physics to promote a failed model.

[oddsnsods]

Flatliners on the attack again..making the forum look nuts.