Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 15 hours ago, serpentine said: I do and people should be very wary when the work of scientists is being funded by large corporations and by politicians with an agenda. I agree but it doesn't cost much money to buy a kiddie pool and some food dye and some pvc tubing and a valve. I can buy all that junk at home depot for less than $200 and as long as I've got someone in the southern hemisphere we can conduct the same test ourselves. Anyone can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, bflat said: A giant percentage of our world has been indoctrinated into a religion - totally based on faith - that they never even signed up for and it's pitiful. Sorry b, but when I signed up for it (as you like to put it), I've ended up never ever looking back or regretting it. Gods word has taught me so much plus what I need to know in regards to FE. I have faith due to the fact that 500 in Jerusalem actually saw Jesus rise up into the sky, this amount of people can't possibly all be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, bflat said: Also, I noticed that you haven't said a peep in the nuclear thread since I posted that video and uploaded those Behold a Pale Horse book images. Cooper was Naval intelligence and he disclosed a lot of information, so much that they killed him for it and he never once said anything about the Earth being flat. We can keep going though if you like and I'll keep researching and posting information that shatters the ridiculous crap you peddle to people who are trying to figure out what's what. You actually should be ashamed of yourself for peddling such lies on a forum such as David Icke's, a man who built his reputation on giving people the truth about rothschild zionism and reptilians, and yet David has never said anything about the Earth being flat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, alexa said: Sorry b, but when I signed up for it (as you like to put it), I've ended up never ever looking back or regretting it. Gods word has taught me so much plus what I need to know in regards to FE. I have faith due to the fact that 500 in Jerusalem actually saw Jesus rise up into the sky, this amount of people can't possibly all be wrong. Where are these people who saw this take place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Messenger said: You've been deceived. Sorry Messenger, but It's you who has been deceived big time. Where is the link to this Star Wars documentary that you claim the government said it was true but covering up b/c us people here on earth were not ready for the truth ? As for these You Tubers like 'aplaintruth' and Russionvids, I absolutely agree with you 100% but there are some genuine FE's out there. the key word here is 'discernment'. Take Dean Odle for instance he's a FE'er and exposes some of these FE agents. https://youtu.be/LLJcnkqDVRg 1 hour ago, Messenger said: Having said that, I would be willing to bet that you haven't spent the hours upon hours and weeks and months and years it takes to find genuine people who are talking about that sensitive information of the ET/UFO/aerospace topic and actually listen to them and stop the video and then do additional searches with multiple pages open to cross check information, and then to put the pieces together to discern what's fact and what's bs. Maybe you're afraid, or maybe you don't have the intellect to process it, and that's ok, Actually I have, I used to believe in all this nonsense until I woke up around about 2014, at first it took me a while to get my head around FE, so I can understand where you coming from, I know how very hard it must be for you to view the earth from it's proper perspective which is flat, especially when you've been indoctrinated from a child that the earth is a ball in space with planets orbiting. Once a Flat Earther always a Flat Earther and one never looks back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, alexa said: Sorry Messenger, but It's you who has been deceived big time. Where is the link to this Star Wars documentary that you claim the government said it was true but covering up b/c us people here on earth were not ready for the truth ? As for these You Tubers like 'aplaintruth' and Russionvids, I absolutely agree with you 100% but there are some genuine FE's out there. the key word here is 'discernment'. Take Dean Odle for instance he's a FE'er and exposes some of these FE agents. https://youtu.be/LLJcnkqDVRg Actually I have, I used to believe in all this nonsense until I woke up around about 2014, at first it took me a while to get my head around FE, so I can understand where you coming from, I know how very hard it must be for you to view the earth from it's proper perspective which is flat, especially when you've been indoctrinated from a child that the earth is a ball in space with planets orbiting. Once a Flat Earther always a Flat Earther and one never looks back. Lol, ok. You are completely ignoring the Coriolis effect that two men in separate parts of the planet conducted together which actually showed water spinning counter-clockwise. How do you explain that? How do you explain that you continue to refuse to take me up on my offer to go skydiving even if I pay for your jump? Didn't you at one point say that gravity does not exist? Prove me wrong, let's go jump together, we can get it on film, I'll bring my GoPro camera and then I'll upload it to youtube and post the vid to the Icke forum. There is no such thing as a "genuine flat Earth". Flat Earth people fall into one of two categories. Agents, or deceived. Ok maybe a third category, alien, which would explain why they look at things different because they are from another place, where I don't know. I never said that there is a star wars documentary. I said that Star Wars the movie itself was sort of a documentary on the universe and that George Lucas was a genius given how expansive his mind was to come up with all that back in the 70's. Then Disney comes along and ruins it. Paul Hellyer former Minister of defense of Canada once said in an interview that there actually are Star Wars taking place. The Minister of Defense of Canada. If I can find the interview I will post it. Here he is testifying about UFO's. If the Earth is flat, where do UFO's come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 hours ago, alexa said: Once a Flat Earther always a Flat Earther and one never looks back. Your words suggest to me therefore that, in your case, being a Flat Earther is a belief system. Should we not be open to opposing evidence in the search of truth even if that refutes beliefs that we previously held to be true? And should we not always be open to the possibility that we could be wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Messenger said: Where are these people who saw this take place? Obviously they are dead now, but when Paul wrote this there would have been some still living who saw this happen. 1 Corin 15-6 Quote After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 i don't believe that the earth is flat. but i also don't believe that the moon is what we are told/taught/'educated' is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, alexa said: Obviously they are dead now, but when Paul wrote this there would have been some still living who saw this happen. 1 Corin 15-6 So how do we prove that actually happened? Lol, you expect people to believe that actually happened and we have zero photographic proof of it, and you are going off a book that has been re-written several times by people you have never met. Yet we have actual photographs of the Earth from space showing curvature and sphere shape, yet you don't believe that. The below image is a PHOTOGRAPH from a satellite. Do you know what a satellite is? I know someone who is a software engineer for one of the largest "defense" corporations on the planet, who writes software code for satellites and fly by wire throttle for aircraft. This person graduated from a aeronautical school in computer science. I've also had lengthy discussions with first officer and US air marshal pilots who have a twenty+ years career with US Airways/Southwest Airlines and other airlines who started out flying turbo prop aircraft as flight instructors. The Earth is not flat honey. You've been lied to. The bible is not meant to be taken as 100% fact. It is a basic instruction manual while your soul occupies your physical body in this physical plane. Whenever you're ready to experience gravity, let me know and we'll go skydiving. It's actually a lot of fun, there is nothing to be afraid of. You are more likely to die from corona "virus". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Given To Fly Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) On 7/7/2020 at 8:09 PM, ink said: Disagree .... ET's are inter dimensional as you are! Not from 'space' but from 'outside' our physical senses. i agree but how does that correlate with other entities from other planets/galaxies/solar systems ? Edited July 10, 2020 by Given To Fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Messenger said: How do you explain that you continue to refuse to take me up on my offer to go skydiving even if I pay for your jump? B/C it might kill me due to my emergency open heart operation which I had to have plus I'm not a helium balloon I wont float. 7 minutes ago, Messenger said: Here he is testifying about UFO's. If the Earth is flat, where do UFO's come from? Underground ......Made in the USA and tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Messenger said: So how do we prove that actually happened? Lol, you expect people to believe that actually happened and we have zero photographic proof of it, and you are going off a book that has been re-written several times by people you have never met. Its called having faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, alexa said: B/C it might kill me due to my emergency open heart operation which I had to have plus I'm not a helium balloon I wont float. Underground ......Made in the USA and tested. You didn't even take the time to watch the interview of Paul Hellyer. No wonder you have no clue what's going on. That's the same reason why millions of people believe in corona "virus", because they are getting their information from liars, and not taking the time to watch the people who are putting themselves at risk to help humanity. And where do you think the US government got the technology from to build some of those craft that were seen spotted seventy years ago before we had the ability or know how to build them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, alexa said: Its called having faith. Faith doesn't prove something as being fact. Perhaps you should read the dictionary and study etymology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: That suggests to me therefore that being a Flat Earther is a belief system. Should we not be open to opposing evidence in the search of truth even if that refutes beliefs that we previously held to be true? True ME ..... but what I meant by the above quote was that once one see all the evidence for FE and sees the big picture one finds it impossible to go back to believing that we live on a spinning ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Messenger said: Perhaps you should read the dictionary and study etymology What a good idea and then maybe I can do a thread on etymology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Messenger said: ..... I never said that there is a star wars documentary. I said that Star Wars the movie itself was sort of a documentary on the universe and that George Lucas was a genius given how expansive his mind was to come up with all that back in the 70's. Then Disney comes along and ruins it. Paul Hellyer former Minister of defense of Canada once said in an interview that there actually are Star Wars taking place. The Minister of Defense of Canada. If I can find the interview I will post it. Here he is testifying about UFO's. If the Earth is flat, where do UFO's come from? ..... Trustworthy source. Have you ever considered that he might be part of a psyop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Messenger said: You didn't even take the time to watch the interview of Paul Hellyer. I've just watched the vid you posted and he's right what he says at the very end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, alexa said: Sorry b, but when I signed up for it (as you like to put it), I've ended up never ever looking back or regretting it. Gods word has taught me so much plus what I need to know in regards to FE. I have faith due to the fact that 500 in Jerusalem actually saw Jesus rise up into the sky, this amount of people can't possibly all be wrong. No way was this a shot at you; it was an explanation for those indoctrinated into the religion of scientism who hold gravity as their god. And exactly... you got to choose; they did not! Edited July 10, 2020 by bflat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, bflat said: Now way was this a shot at you; it was an explanation for those indoctrinated into the religion of scientism who hold gravity as their god. And exactly... you got to choose; they did not! OK I'm soz, I must have misinterpreted you wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 hours ago, alexa said: True ME ..... but what I meant by the above quote was that once one see all the evidence for FE and sees the big picture one finds it impossible to go back to believing that we live on a spinning ball. This^^^^ I mean many of us grow up indoctrinated with the idea of "space.," "planets," and "galaxies." I believed we have been visited by these entities coming through some imagined 10^-17 torr vacuum known as deep space myself, but of course after researching for my self, I know that that is impossible. Now I simply chuckle when hearing about things like secret space programs and supposed government whistle blowers who are clearly agents for those who require the man made construct of space to exist. But to some this remains real for their entire lives. Seems like a terrible waste to me, but I guess they are happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, bflat said: Now I simply chuckle when hearing about things like secret space programs and supposed government whistle blowers who are clearly agents for those who require the man made construct of space to exist. But to some this remains real for their entire lives. Seems like a terrible waste to me, but I guess they are happy. Well I guess we are on a different page to them, we are much further along in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 So as i watch this video, are my eyes wrong? is the telescope tricking my eyes? wheres the curvature gone??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Perhaps if flat earthers generate enough mind power parts of the USA will indeed appear flat. It'll be difficult for them though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvf617ReVs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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