bflat Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, Grumpy Owl said: So how do magnets and electricity work then if there is no south pole? Magnets and electricity work on our flat, stationary plane. What makes you think that a south pole is required for magnets and electricity to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, bflat said: Magnets and electricity work on our flat, stationary plane. What makes you think that a south pole is required for magnets and electricity to work? Well, the clue is in the use of the word 'pole'. If the north pole is at one end, what is at the other end if not a south pole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, Grumpy Owl said: Well, the clue is in the use of the word 'pole'. If the north pole is at one end, what is at the other end if not a south pole? Reification fallacy! What you call the "north pole" is actually just the magnetic center of our flat, stationary plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, bflat said: Reification fallacy! What you call the "north pole" is actually just the magnetic center of our flat, stationary plane. So can you please demonstrate to me how magnetism and magnetic fields work if there is no south pole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said: So can you please demonstrate to me how magnetism and magnetic fields work if there is no south pole? I have, lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bflat Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 @Grumpy Owl If you have no figured out the reason why the above flight routes do not exist, it is because there is no southern hemisphere. I'm not sure why you are so caught up with the idea that a compass requires us to live on a ball and the charged end can not simply point to the magnetic attraction... in our case, the magnetic center of our plane. Try this for 30seconds: It might be easier for you to understand then the meme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, bflat said: If you have no figured out the reason why the above flight routes do not exist, it is because there is no southern hemisphere. Thanks, that clears everything up, its obviously a lie then that planes don't fly over Antarctica because if they get into trouble there is nowhere safe to land. 1 hour ago, bflat said: I'm not sure why you are so caught up with the idea that a compass requires us to live on a ball and the charged end can not simply point to the magnetic attraction... in our case, the magnetic center of our plane. Try this for 30seconds: Thanks, that's pretty conclusive and damning stuff. Its weird how compasses do exactly the same thing on a globe earth too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Bankzy Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 8 hours ago, serpentine said: Some excellent footage available from high altitude balloon enthusiasts out there with the technical quality of gear rapidly increasing and the costs remaining affordable. Good footage. This was in the comment section of your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: Thanks, that clears everything up, its obviously a lie then that planes don't fly over Antarctica because if they get into trouble there is nowhere safe to land. Cool story, bro, yet many flights fly directly over the arctic circle. Check out flightradar24.com. Check any flights from NY to Asia. 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: Thanks, that's pretty conclusive and damning stuff. Its weird how compasses do exactly the same thing on a globe earth too. Except it doesn't! As explained: This is why navigators across time have always found themselves miles off their dead reckoning when traveling below the equator. The father from the equator, the more miles they would be off. Beyond that, compasses simply cannot work on a ball. The needle would literally need to be pointing through the ball as it lies flat on its base. Put yourself on a ball and think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, bflat said: This is why navigators across time have always found themselves miles off their dead reckoning when traveling below the equator. The father from the equator, the more miles they would be off. Any supporting evidence for this? 3 minutes ago, bflat said: Beyond that, compasses simply cannot work on a ball. The needle would literally need to be pointing through the ball as it lies flat on its base. Put yourself on a ball and think. I refer again to this: The needle of a compass points towards north because it aligns with the magnetic field enclosing the earth, and for that reason it wouldn't point 'inside the ball'. And because the globe is so big, yes you could lay a compass down flat anywhere and it would still point towards the magnetic north. Anyway that's all I have to say on this matter. I do find the idea of a flat earth fascinating, but I'm currently interested in electromagnetism and the electric/plasma universe theories, which do not seem to fit well alongside the idea of a flat earth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, bflat said: Cool story, bro, yet many flights fly directly over the arctic circle. Check out flightradar24.com. Check any flights from NY to Asia. https://www.flightradar24.com/LAN1962/24db4635 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, bflat said: Cool story, bro, yet many flights fly directly over the arctic circle. Check out flightradar24.com. Check any flights from NY to Asia. Except it doesn't! As explained: This is why navigators across time have always found themselves miles off their dead reckoning when traveling below the equator. The father from the equator, the more miles they would be off. Beyond that, compasses simply cannot work on a ball. The needle would literally need to be pointing through the ball as it lies flat on its base. Put yourself on a ball and think. My friend.....you are wasting your time. There are none so blind as those that will not see. Just like you and I, globe believers were brainwashed from the day they started school and the lie has been pumped into them subliminally ever since. Thankfully, us flat earthers have our brains wired differently and can see there is no curve. Despite hundreds of proofs that we live on a flat plane the globetards will never be able to overcome their cognitive dissonance, it's too painful for them. For so many to be unable to see that a world consisting of 70% water (that ALWAYS finds its own level) cannot be round or that a pressurised atmosphere cannot exist next to a vacuum shows the power of their indoctrination. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 17 hours ago, bflat said: A telescope is not needed. Out of likes. Beautiful pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said: My friend.....you are wasting your time. There are none so blind as those that will not see. Just like you and I, globe believers were brainwashed from the day they started school and the lie has been pumped into them subliminally ever since. Thankfully, us flat earthers have our brains wired differently and can see there is no curve. Despite hundreds of proofs that we live on a flat plane the globetards will never be able to overcome their cognitive dissonance, it's too painful for them. For so many to be unable to see that a world consisting of 70% water (that ALWAYS finds its own level) cannot be round or that a pressurised atmosphere cannot exist next to a vacuum shows the power of their indoctrination. I'm open to new ideas and to question existing mainstream 'accepted science'. But I too am clearly wasting my time trying to have a sensible debate with people that resort to insults and name-calling. What an arrogant comment yours is. Like I said earlier in this thread, ultimately I don't care if I am living on a flat or a globe Earth. This whole physical existence of ours is just an illusion anyway, a holographic simulation of sorts. We're all just electromagnetic energy, and part of an electromagnetic universe. I'm done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: So can you please demonstrate to me how magnetism and magnetic fields work if there is no south pole? He gets away with his bullshit on this forum all day everyday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Forsaken Bankzy said: Good footage. This was in the comment section of your video. Demonstrates precisely the effect that Dwayne Kellum was talking about at the start of his video with the pitch, yaw and roll making the Earth's apparent curvature go from convex, to straight, to concave and back again and even appear to ripple when the camera gear plummets back to Earth. Dwayne's video after quite a few launches show consistent curvature with minimal distortion. With a good view of a known large body of water and some maths a calculation of the diameter of the Earth could be attempted from his recordings. Edited July 6, 2020 by serpentine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, serpentine said: Demonstrates precisely the effect that Dwayne Kellum was talking about the edges of the video are curling. its another fisheye lens plus the mid line (left to right) of the video screen is bellowing due to the fisheye once the horizon hits above middle line of the video it bellows up and when it goes below the mid line of video it bellows down its pathetic how you lot continue to throw fisheye lens footage at this thread and claim "'pwooof" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, zArk said: its pathetic how you lot continue to throw fisheye lens footage at this thread and claim "'pwooof" It's unclear who that comment is aimed and the mathematical proof of the shape of the Earth by Erathostenes is good enough for me but as Dwayne says in his video all lenses will distort the view to some degree but the use of a rectilinear lens avoids the ludicrous fisheye effect. His video shows no straight or concave edge throughout it's duration.with a distortion of near 2% or less as per lens manufacturers specification. Edited July 6, 2020 by serpentine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 360 degree camera shot from a balloon apparently proving spherical Earth.complete with skywards gazing enthusiasts. Edited July 6, 2020 by serpentine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 @bflatThe number of posts this thread has accumulated has been amazing but we are no further along in showing these guys here the truth, we seem to be going round in circles. They have been so indoctrinated by space, aliens and a spinning ball I fear most will never be able to come to the truth. They even deny God's word in regards to the FE so what hope do we have of ever changing their views. Now it just seems futile to carry on even though it has been fun trying but I will never give up hope that many will wake up and see the truth that we do live on a flat plain. Some may say, 'Why does it matter what shape the earth is' It doesn't really, what does matter is that we all have been deceived and lied to by NASA and through Hollywood and most important of all they have hidden God & ridiculed his word which was their goal all along. 1 Timothy 6:20 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/5/2020 at 10:40 AM, bflat said: A telescope is not needed. so who cut the channel in the ice wall then ,are they trying to drain the oceans Show them this picture ,why so we can all fall over laughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 20 hours ago, bflat said: Magnets and electricity work on our flat, stationary plane. What makes you think that a south pole is required for magnets and electricity to work? THE EARTH HAS NOW BECOME A MAGNETIC MONO POLE will wonders never cease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, serpentine said: It's unclear who that comment is aimed and the mathematical proof of the shape of the Earth by Erathostenes is good enough for me . Get a chalk board to disprove my eyes Lol The decentred self was part of the enlightenment. Masonic philosophy infecting people's perception of their self. Colonisation of the mind Trust the other rather than yourself However the ancient law practice of time immemorial says a 1st hand witness trump's any scientific theories My eyes, my ears, my senses trump a chalk board of markings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentine Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, zArk said: Get a chalk board to disprove my eyes Lol The decentred self was part of the enlightenment. Masonic philosophy infecting people's perception of their self. Colonisation of the mind Trust the other rather than yourself However the ancient law practice of time immemorial says a 1st hand witness trump's any scientific theories My eyes, my ears, my senses trump a chalk board of markings As far as I know Eratosthenes never admitted to being a freemason and to be blunt I trust my intuitions more than the words of some members posting in this thread such as knowing people were going to die on White Island several weeks before they did which took just a moments focus guided by the words of Diamond of the ORP and which was why I mentioned in passing the Victorian Arctic balloonists in the precursor thread to this one in the hacked forum who also came to grief on another "White Island". . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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