The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[zArk]

Just now, MrA said:

Also dont forget my questions arent supposed to be an insult 

 

I have some funny ideas about what this reality is made up off too and its certainly not what we can only see with visible light IMO 

 

i didnt take any insult

 

i do find Eric Dubays explanation fascinating and eddie bravo is very passionate.

 

[zArk]

9 minutes ago, MrA said:

If our sun isnt real and its a bulb then does that mean all the other stars are fake as well ?

i dont see why the sun isnt real. i didnt mean to give you idea that it was my opinion it was a bulb, i just used the box room/bulb example as it was one that i read

 

the earth is real

i am real

the sun is real

the moon is real

but that doesn't necessitate a sphere

 

i think that Akhenaten was craving his bollocks back and he and his follower eunuchs projected their desire for testicals onto their created universe

 

they see balls everywhere... poor bastards

even atoms are displayed as spheres, is this correct? are electrons spherical? are neutrons and protons?

 

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by zArk

[MrA]

Not too long ago men were taught that Jerusalem is the centre of the universe 

 

 

[MrA]

I still.cant conceptualize a vanishing point for light if the Earth is flat and parts of the flat Earth are bathed in light I cannot conceptualize how that source of light becomes invisible ? 

 

It cant possibly be far enough away to vanish completely on a flat plane 

[KillBill]

4 minutes ago, MrA said:

I still.cant conceptualize a vanishing point for light if the Earth is flat and parts of the flat Earth are bathed in light I cannot conceptualize how that source of light becomes invisible ? 

 

It cant possibly be far enough away to vanish completely on a flat plane 

 

 

[MrA]

7 minutes ago, KillBill said:

 

 

 

But the Sun clearly does not travel in a straight line across the sky ? 

 

And yes I think that guy is deep in the rabbit hole 

[KillBill]

1 minute ago, MrA said:

 

But the Sun clearly does not travel in a straight line across the sky ? 

 

And yes I think that guy is deep in the rabbit hole 

 

I'll post up a thread about this when I've got a bit more time, but 'some' of the flat earthers are at least highlighting that there are inconsistencies in the ball earth model and heliocentrism. NASA are involved with fakery at every level. Jack Parsons was a founding member of Nasa's Jet Propulsion Lab was a Thelemite.

[MrA]

4 minutes ago, KillBill said:

 

I'll post up a thread about this when I've got a bit more time, but 'some' of the flat earthers are at least highlighting that there are inconsistencies in the ball earth model and heliocentrism. NASA are involved with fakery at every level. Jack Parsons was a founding member of Nasa's Jet Propulsion Lab was a Thelemite.

 

Yes I agree NASA has been a giant scam in many respects 

 

Richard C Hoaglands Dark Moon is an excellent book going into detail.about JPL and their esoteric tendencies 

 

 

[MrA]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

 

they see balls everywhere... poor bastards

even atoms are displayed as spheres, is this correct? are electrons spherical? are neutrons and protons?

 

 

 

IDK about an atomic level 

 

But say for example the Fibonacci sequence and the Golden Ratio are both observable patterns

 

 

 

Spirals and circles seem.to be a.recurring phenomena in nature 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2020 by MrA

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

On 5/22/2020 at 10:03 AM, Asmallperson said:

If people are happy to try and view it as a disc then why not as a globe?

 

Not everyone sees our world as either a disc or globe. Some see it as an infinite plain of ice with many other worlds similar to ours 

 

I can think of over 200 compelling reasons why the globe model is a fallacy. Anyone really interested can easily view dozens of good videos outlining the nonsense of a ball earth.

 

When the best rebuttals here concern planets as discs or globes we can see the globe believers are amplifying tiny points while pretending the flat earth evidence has all been debunked. Which it has not by a country mile.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 hour ago, MrA said:

I still.cant conceptualize a vanishing point for light if the Earth is flat and parts of the flat Earth are bathed in light I cannot conceptualize how that source of light becomes invisible ? 

 

It cant possibly be far enough away to vanish completely on a flat plane 

 

Considering the overwhelming evidence of a flat plane earth I seriously doubt that any ambiguity about conceptualizations will negate the far more powerful evidence supporting a non globe earth.

 

One thing I found to be consistent with globe believers is the absence of research. Even people that would never approach this subject without i.agining it lunacy has been shocked when they finally looked into it. Dont need to go very far down the rabbit hole to see a clear picture emerging.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

A nineteenth century french experiment by Biot and Arago;

 

A powerful lamp with good reflectors was placed on the summit of Desierto las Palmas in Spain and was seen all the way from Camprey on the Island of Ivisa.

 

The elevation of both points were identical. The distance was 100 miles.

 

If our world was a ball 25,000 miles in circumference the light should have been more than 6,600 feet, a mile and a quarter below the line of sight.

Edited May 26, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[MrA]

9 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

Considering the overwhelming evidence of a flat plane earth I seriously doubt that any ambiguity about conceptualizations will negate the far more powerful evidence supporting a non globe earth.

 

One thing I found to be consistent with globe believers is the absence of research. Even people that would never approach this subject without i.agining it lunacy has been shocked when they finally looked into it. Dont need to go very far down the rabbit hole to see a clear picture emerging.

 

But I am making observations 

 

The sun does not traverse the sky in a straight line 

 

Thats an observable fact

 

It travels across the sky in an arc not a straight line 

 

Someone posted a video of a kitchen experiment to show how the Sun sets on the flat earth model

 

But according to the experiment the sun.travels in a.straight line across the sky

 

It does not do that , it travels in an arc and appears to rise at different points of the horizon depending on what time of year it is

 

You dont need a youtube video to see that

 

You just have to get up in the morning and see that the sun appears on the horizon at different points 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Admiral Richard Byrd, a real life Indiana Jones on steroids, explored beyond the ice wall and spoke on Chilean radio and The Longines tv show about land beyond the Antarctic pole. A land mass the size of the USA filled with energy resources to fuel the earth for a very long time.

 

You probably think the energy barons were pushing hard to go down there and dig in. Not long after Byrd came back prematurely from his last expedition the shadow government that just locked everyone down locked down Antarctica in one of the most airtight world treaty ever drafted.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

2 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

But I am making observations 

 

The sun does not traverse the sky in a straight line 

 

Thats an observable fact

 

It travels across the sky in an arc not a straight line 

 

Someone posted a video of a kitchen experiment to show how the Sun sets on the flat earth model

 

But according to the experiment the sun.travels in a.straight line across the sky

 

It does not do that , it travels in an arc and appears to rise at different points of the horizon depending on what time of year it is

 

You dont need a youtube video to see that

 

You just have to get up in the morning and see that the sun appears on the horizon at different points 

 

The sun rotates in circles above a flat plane. The arc is a lens distortion effect in the eyes. The same error is inherent in glass lenses for telescopes and most cameras.

 

You need youtubes to discover compelling evidence liable to nudge you into understanding this vanishing point concept. When over 200 compelling explanations for a flat earth are presented that leave most without a doubt a person needs to understand that whatever your observation is it has nothing to do with a globe. Too many solid proofs destroy the globe.

 

This said I am happy to see you in this discussion and hope you can digest more of the evidence and share your thoughts.

[MrA]

8 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

Admiral Richard Byrd, a real life Indiana Jones on steroids, explored beyond the ice wall and spoke on Chilean radio and The Longines tv show about land beyond the Antarctic pole. A land mass the size of the USA filled with energy resources to fuel the earth for a very long time.

 

You probably think the energy barons were pushing hard to go down there and dig in. Not long after Byrd came back prematurely from his last expedition the shadow government that just locked everyone down locked down Antarctica in one of the most airtight world treaty ever drafted.

 

I believe they agreed not to try another military expedition there because they had their ass handed.to them by craft they couldnt shoot down and did not recognise as terrestrial craft

 

I have listened to Byrds account 

 

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

The landmass closest to the icewall is called Deception Island. 

[MrA]

2 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

The sun rotates in circles above a flat plane. The arc is a lens distortion effect in the eyes. The same error is inherent in glass lenses for telescopes and most cameras.

 

 

 

Well thats now two different explanations for how the Sun works in a flat earth model 

 

And neither of them.adequately explains the difference between day and night 

 

If the Earth is a flat plane I should be able to see the Sun from wherever I am.on the Earth or the FE model requires that the Earth is so.vast that visible.light cannot reach the area of the Earth not directly under the Sun 

 

It doesnt make any sense sorry 

[MrA]

Are the stars I can see with my telescope globes or discs ? 

 

And the planets I can see through my backyard telescope

 

Are they also.discs turned to face the Earth so they appear as globes ? 

 

Can anybody clear that up.because TBH it was my first question and nobody has gone anywhere near it 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

3 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

 

Well thats now two different explanations for how the Sun works in a flat earth model 

 

And neither of them.adequately explains the difference between day and night 

 

If the Earth is a flat plane I should be able to see the Sun from wherever I am.on the Earth or the FE model requires that the Earth is so.vast that visible.light cannot reach the area of the Earth not directly under the Sun 

 

It doesnt make any sense sorry 

 

You can see by the angle of the sun rays going through clouds that it is not 92 million miles away. I think your determinations must take this into account.

 

You might also ask why we can't see the coast of Spain from Newfoundland. The vapors, dust, heat distortions and many more obstruct a clear view. The atmosphere is not a perfectly clear lens.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

4 minutes ago, MrA said:

Are the stars I can see with my telescope globes or discs ? 

 

And the planets I can see through my backyard telescope

 

Are they also.discs turned to face the Earth so they appear as globes ? 

 

Can anybody clear that up.because TBH it was my first question and nobody has gone anywhere near it 

 

I have seen stars zoomed up close. They are neither star not disc nor globular. They are pulsating orbs with color shifts consistent with frequency variations. Not even close to the NASA models of stars.

[MrA]

1 minute ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

You can see by the angle of the sun rays going through clouds that it is not 92 million miles away. I think your determinations must take this into account.

 

You might also ask why we can't see the coast of Spain from Newfoundland. The vapors, dust, heat distortions and many more obstruct a clear view. The atmosphere is not a perfectly clear lens.

 

Are the planets I can see with my telescope globes ? 

 

or discs turned on their side so they appear as globes ? 

 

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Never do aircraft deviate from level path. Submarines ply the submarine depths for mile upon mile while maintaining level zero boyancy. Where are the corrections for curvature. A plane maintaining level flight would soon leave the atmosphere.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

2 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Are the planets I can see with my telescope globes ? 

 

or discs turned on their side so they appear as globes ? 

 

 

 

Neither. 

[MrA]

Just now, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

Neither. 

 

So there are no other planets ?