NationDeseret Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 6 hours ago, alexa said: These teaching are of paganism, they who worship the sun literally. That’s what I’m saying. That’s why I linked David’s video as well. You don’t have to be a Pagan or some religious person to agree. The truth is stranger than fiction. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 So wer're back to all the crazy, uncommented youtube videos, are we? I'm getting sick of repeating myself (but I will anyway!), Flat Earth was completely debunked in this thread many posts ago. No one, and I repeat, NO ONE, has yet explained to me why there is no Flat Earth version of the Nautical Almanac. How come ships and aircraft navigate so accurately using the (Globe-based) Nautical Almanac which is available worldwide and has been used since 1767? Is this how you prove a Flat Earth, by ignoring evidence against it? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, webtrekker said: So wer're back to all the crazy, uncommented youtube videos, are we? Of course, that's all they've got and all they ever had 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationDeseret Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, peter said: Of course, that's all they've got and all they ever had Nope. We existed long before YouTube or the idea of Earth being round. Stars aren’t in a fixed position. It all makes a lot more sense when you have reliable sources instead of pseudo-science. I’d be more than willing to provide some if need-be. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, NationDeseret said: Nope. We existed long before YouTube or the idea of Earth being round. Stars aren’t in a fixed position. It all makes a lot more sense when you have reliable sources instead of pseudo-science. I’d be more than willing to provide some if need-be. That's great! So please supply a copy of the Flat Earth Nautical Almanac, as discussed in my post above, from one of your 'reliable sources.' Much obliged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationDeseret Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 21 minutes ago, webtrekker said: That's great! So please supply a copy of the Flat Earth Nautical Almanac, as discussed in my post above, from one of your 'reliable sources.' Much obliged. There is no publication but there’s a page on that. I should make a Flat Earth Nautical Almanac. I’ll message you when I do. I’ll host it on my website. https://flatearth.ws/nautical-almanac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 48 minutes ago, NationDeseret said: There is no publication but there’s a page on that. I should make a Flat Earth Nautical Almanac. I’ll message you when I do. I’ll host it on my website. https://flatearth.ws/nautical-almanac Thanks. I don't know how you'll get around this though (from your link) ... The determination of a ship’s position from celestial navigation depends on the accuracy of stars’ position in the nautical almanac being used. Because we do not have a fundamental problem in celestial navigation, we can be sure that the positions of stars being reported in nautical almanacs are correct. And therefore, we can understand that the change in stars’ positions is indeed occurring. This is precisely what all of my posts have been about concerning accurate navigation with the Nautical Almanac, the formulae for which are based on a Globe Earth using SPHERICAL trigonometry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 MOD NOTE: THE SAME BULLSHIT FROM BEFORE IS STARTING AGAIN. ANY COMMENT WHICH DOES NOT ADD SOMETHING NEW WILL BE REMOVED. BY THE WAY, POLARIS ISNT FIXE SO NOW FLAT EARTHERS ARE POSTING NEW RUBBISH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 9 minutes ago, Bombadil said: BY THE WAY, POLARIS ISNT FIXE SO NOW FLAT EARTHERS ARE POSTING NEW RUBBISH It's more or less in the same spot every night. Quote Polaris stands almost motionless in the sky, and all the stars of the northern sky appear to rotate around it. Therefore, it makes an excellent fixed point from which to draw measurements for celestial navigation and for astrometry. The elevation of the star above the horizon gives the approximate latitude of the observer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 26 minutes ago, alexa said: It's more or less in the same spot every night. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris An hour ago you posted that it was fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Wikipedia! Anyone quoting that as a source of truth needs their head tested. David Icke himself has tried many times to edit the bullshit that wikipedia prints about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Bombadil said: An hour ago you posted that it was fixed. Sorry - My bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Wikipedia is okay, but it's only as good as the editor of the topic. It's a battleground for an information war, and it's no different from the internet in general. The concern shouldn't be about wikipedia, it should be about the sources at the bottom of the page of whatever topic you're reading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 4 hours ago, NationDeseret said: Nope. We existed long before YouTube or the idea of Earth being round. Stars aren’t in a fixed position. It all makes a lot more sense when you have reliable sources instead of pseudo-science. I’d be more than willing to provide some if need-be. Great ,something new then,well lets all have a look Since your not using pseudo-science, can we finally expect a flat earth working hypothesis,that also encompasses predictability like when is the next flat earth eclipse and how is that achieved with regards to the flat earth model Edited January 26 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, NationDeseret said: There is no publication but there’s a page on that. I should make a Flat Earth Nautical Almanac. I’ll message you when I do. I’ll host it on my website. https://flatearth.ws/nautical-almanac If you don't mind would you post it here as I certainly won't be going to your website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 10 hours ago, peter said: If you don't mind would you post it here as I certainly won't be going to your website he's history as he was previously banned member.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 minutes ago, screamingeagle said: he's history as he was previously banned member.... That's unfortunate as I was hoping to see what he had in the way of new evidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, peter said: That's unfortunate as I was hoping to see what he had in the way of new evidence really?? probably something like "look out side it's flat" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 47 minutes ago, screamingeagle said: really?? probably something like "look out side it's flat" How cynical , your worse than me Edited January 27 by peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 On 1/26/2023 at 6:17 AM, alexa said: Tanakh term. It’s included in the script the simulation runs on. Whether or not the one who created the script is worthy of worship is up to ethical debate. I don't know about worship but I give thanks to those that have come and gone and of higher consciousness. Just as if I come across another human who happened to be on a higher level. I don't worship but I learn from them. This includes all that are relevant to me, whether I consider them as adversary or for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 20 minutes ago, DaleP said: On 1/26/2023 at 6:17 AM, alexa said: Tanakh term. It’s included in the script the simulation runs on. Whether or not the one who created the script is worthy of worship is up to ethical debate. I'm sorry but I didn't quote the above, I reckon you've mixed me up with Nation Deseret On 1/26/2023 at 3:53 AM, NationDeseret said: Tanakh term. It’s included in the script the simulation runs on. Whether or not the one who created the script is worthy of worship is up to ethical debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 How weird that happened. Sorry alexa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 20 minutes ago, DaleP said: How weird that happened. Sorry alexa. If you quote directly from the source post it will show that. If you quote from another posters quote it will give credit to the new poster. Does that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Bombadil said: If you quote directly from the source post it will show that. If you quote from another posters quote it will give credit to the new poster. Does that make sense? Thanks. May be that's what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, DaleP said: How weird that happened. Sorry alexa. That's okay Dale, nor prob, I've done it myself before now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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