The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[sock muppet]

11 minutes ago, zArk said:

so your container is representing what i ask? space time?

 

Exactly that,

And it is a good way to visualise what we can not see but experience in the whole of our lives.

[sock muppet]

8 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

 

i am just pointing out that its nice that theres all this theory and postulation but in the real when this model is said to be fact

 

 

theres no real observable example to show it exists in nature. anywhere, ever.

 

 

 

This model describes a forward motion and by extension of implication meets resistance in that motion which is false, the image accurately describes what is actually happening and would happen if it were moving through some thing like air or water or some other resistive material, even plasma, but not the vacuum curvature of space,

[TheConsultant]

14 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

 

i am just pointing out that its nice that theres all this theory and postulation but in the real when this model is said to be fact

 

 

theres no real observable example to show it exists in nature. anywhere, ever.

 

 

Fundamental particles around atoms. The small mimics the big. Or is it the other way around? Either way.....

plus I am not dishing out theory or my own ramblings.

Edited January 7 by TheConsultant

[sock muppet]

2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

plus I am not dishing out theory or my own ramblings

 

FALSE, you just did,

[zArk]

7 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

Exactly that,

And it is a good way to visualise what we can not see but experience in the whole of our lives.

but you have no actual example of objects orbiting each other in nature without tether or container (relying solely upon gravity/space time/ magnetism) other than you spinning some marbles in a bowl?

 

 

[TheConsultant]

Just now, sock muppet said:

 

FALSE, you just did,

Its not theory :)

[sock muppet]

Just now, zArk said:

but you have no actual example of objects orbiting each other in nature without tether or container (relying solely upon gravity/space time/ magnetism) other than you spinning some marbles in a bowl?

 

 

 

The curvature of Time Space IS the container, pay attention Bond.

[sock muppet]

1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

Its not theory :)

 

What, thy hypocrite, you just denounced your own theory as an anti-theory,

[zArk]

4 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

This model describes a forward motion and by extension of implication meets resistance in that motion which is false, the image accurately describes what is actually happening and would happen if it were moving through some thing like air or water or some other resistive material, even plasma, but not the vacuum curvature of space,

thats a  model   .... what i am asking for is

 

do you have an example of the theorectical model in nature that can be examined, measured, recorded ?

 

if you expect to promote a theory/model of space, planets, orbits etc etc i require validation in nature.

 

 

[TheConsultant]

Time is man made measure and space doesn't have properties. Stop quoting Einstein, hes an idiot.

[zArk]

5 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Fundamental particles around atoms. The small mimics the big. Or is it the other way around? Either way.....

again, thats just theory. there is no evidence of orbits, spinning, neutron/electron/proton structure.

its all supposition and  presumption to fit inside another model.

 

 

[sock muppet]

Just now, zArk said:

do you have an example of the theorectical model in nature that can be examined, measured, recorded

 

HUH?, i just gave you a repeatable demonstrable experiment to play with at your leisure and costs absolutely fuk all to build, but if you want proof of concept then hitch a ride with Elon Musk and his rockets and go see for yourself where two stars orbit about themselves without tether, in the meantime observe something much closer to home with a telescope.

[TheConsultant]

Just now, zArk said:

again, thats just theory. there is no evidence of orbits, spinning, neutron/electron/proton structure.

its all supposition and  presumption to fit inside another model.

 

 

I am not working within someone elses model, or trying to make it fit the heliocentric model. Plenty of lies surround that as we all know.

[zArk]

3 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

The curvature of Time Space IS the container, pay attention Bond.

 

yes yes its your similie but it is not an example in nature of orbit of objects

[zArk]

1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

I am not working within someone elses model, or trying to make it fit the heliocentric model. Plenty of lies surround that as we all know.

but you cant produce evidence of the claimed proton/neutron/electron structure

[sock muppet]

Just now, zArk said:

yes yes its your similie but it is not an example in nature of orbit of objects

 

Neither is yours, so why don't you provide a simple experiment to play with that demonstrates what the hell your going on about, like i did,

[zArk]

2 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

HUH?, i just gave you a repeatable demonstrable experiment to play with at your leisure and costs absolutely fuk all to build, but if you want proof of concept then hitch a ride with Elon Musk and his rockets and go see for yourself where two stars orbit about themselves without tether, in the meantime observe something much closer to home with a telescope.

 it is not an example of orbit in nature

 

you stepped in this thread to offer something and have offered nothing to my requirement

 

 

 

 

 

[TheConsultant]

5 minutes ago, zArk said:

but you cant produce evidence of the claimed proton/neutron/electron structure

Well technically an electron is a unit of dielectric induction, our understanding of particles is pretty erroneous in and of itself. Look at some photos of "particles" twatting together at CERN, you will see others spin and orbit before dying out. I cannot remember what the detector section is called, but you can buy it as art work. 



yes CERN is probably (definitely) up to other things.

Edited January 7 by TheConsultant

[zArk]

2 minutes ago, sock muppet said:

 

Neither is yours, so why don't you provide a simple experiment to play with that demonstrates what the hell your going on about, like i did,

 

rolling marbles around a bowl is not an example of orbit in nature.

stop wasting this thread

 

[sock muppet]

9 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

space doesn't have properties

 

Oh yes it does, oh no it don't, oh yes it does, oh no i........forget that we just hit an infinity loop, Space is full of properties, just ask Mr Tesla,

[sock muppet]

Just now, zArk said:

stop wasting this thread

 

Exactly, so fuk off and mind your own business, this is for grown ups,

[TheConsultant]

1 minute ago, sock muppet said:

 

Oh yes it does, oh no it don't, oh yes it does, oh no i........forget that we just hit an infinity loop, Space is full of properties, just ask Mr Tesla,

If you mean cars, holiday homes and satellites galore, most likely lol but space doesn't act on anything.

[sock muppet]

2 minutes ago, zArk said:

rolling marbles around a bowl is not an example of orbit in nature

 

Are you saying marbles, surfaces and parabolic curvature do not exist, because i think they do, i have seen them with thine own eyes, try opening yours good fellow.

[sock muppet]

2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

space doesn't act on anything

 

Space is everything, without it we would all be sniffing our own buts, not unlike what joe bioden does with little children.

[TheConsultant]

https://fineartamerica.com/featured/electron-positron-particle-shower-spl.html

Electron/positron interaction. Ignore the names used "particles" interact with charge, as does everything on some level.

"Electron positron particle shower

Electron-positron particle shower. Particle tracks (moving from bottom to top) showing multiple electron-positron pairs produced from the decay of a high-energy gamma ray photon produced by a neutrino collision. The positron is the anti-particle of the electron, and this photon decay process is called pair-creation. Electrons and positrons are charged particles and form these paired spirals as they curve away from each other in a magnetic field. As they do so, they radiate photons, which in turn produce new electron-positron pairs. This shower of particle creation continues until the energy of the original photon is used up. The region shown here is about 2 meters tall."

Edited January 7 by TheConsultant