TheConsultant Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Just now, sickofallthebollocks said: Errr.. yep, you did, just here: No, it can't, water cannot retain a bend or curve unless supported on all sides in its entiety, such as in a pipe. A water droplet is meniscus, with surface tension, but that same droplet of water canot retain a perfect round curve on all sides, or its underneath, it lands on a surface and has the meniscus effect, but the underside of that droplet is not round, it just sits on the surface it lands upon. Your highlighted part does not elude to what you believe it eludes to, I was discussing your statement above only. Not in regards to FE per se nor the oceans. Water tension was an example, not the rule for why people believe the water on earth can or cannot bend. It also forms to the shape of the container or object it is coupling to it is what Bruce Lee was referring to when he mentioned "be formless, shapeless..." quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The All Eye Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Gravity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 7 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said: ...no surface tension whatsoever on something the size of the realm that we live on, also, how would you explain how surface tension/miniscus is a thing when waves break at a shoreline on a beach? The tension for the meniscus theory to be applicable, would mean that the water within is contained on all sides at a constant pressure to create the miniscus effect in the first place, waves break and fall at beaches accross the world, there is no miniscus effect that you get at the top of a testtube or glass of water. All tension is broke at shorelines across the world. No miniscus. Plane travel was not automatic before the arrival of onboard computers, planes have always flew flat and level. Water levels are the key to f/e, there's no getting out of it as gravity has only ever been a preposterous theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 https://rumble.com/embed/v1zwe8e/?pub=4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 The Earth Does Not Spin https://rumble.com/embed/v1yv3t6/?pub=4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Earth Is Flat as a Pita: The Israelis Who Push the Ultimate Conspiracy Theory https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2017-09-05/ty-article/earth-is-flat-as-a-pita-the-israelis-who-push-the-ultimate-conspiracy-theory/0000017f-db82-d856-a37f-ffc2505d0000 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 hours ago, alexa said: Water levels are the key to f/e, there's no getting out of it as gravity has only ever been a preposterous theory. If gravity is only a 'preposterous theory' then please explain why you don't fall out of a light aircraft when you do a loop. I'd love to see that explained by the 'density levels' FE substitute for gravity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 38 minutes ago, webtrekker said: If gravity is only a 'preposterous theory' then please explain why you don't fall out of a light aircraft when you do a loop. Maybe it's the Euler force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) Stunning global picture of Earth taken by a NASA satellite reveals bright blue water in the Caribbean Sea and smog in Northern India The image was taken by a recently launched US space agency satellite, NOAA-21, which experts hope will provide vital information about our planet's oceans, atmosphere and land. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11591949/Stunning-global-picture-Earth-taken-NASA-satellite.html https://youtu.be/R4YiOhjd9O4 Edited January 3 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, alexa said: Stunning global picture of Earth taken by a NASA satellite reveals bright blue water in the Caribbean Sea and smog in Northern India The image was taken by a recently launched US space agency satellite, NOAA-21, which experts hope will provide vital information about our planet's oceans, atmosphere and land. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11591949/Stunning-global-picture-Earth-taken-NASA-satellite.html https://youtu.be/R4YiOhjd9O4 What is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, alexa said: Stunning global picture of Earth taken by a NASA satellite reveals bright blue water in the Caribbean Sea and smog in Northern India ... Do you like what you see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 23 hours ago, alexa said: Maybe it's the Euler force. Please explain how the Euler force prevents you from falling out of a looping aircraft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 35 minutes ago, zArk said: your seatbelts and the hull of your aircraft , nothing to do with your gravy tea what a stupid question LOL! No alexa was far closer, centripetal force. Euler being centrifugal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 These pilots answer the question "does the plane stay at an even pitch throughout the WHOLE flight?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Aircraft altitude is measured (inferred) by atmospheric pressure. The aircraft is usually flown at an altitude that maintains constant ambient pressure (by pilot or autopilot, as the case may be). Changes in local barometric pressure (provided by air traffic control) are used to recalibrate the aircraft altimeter. As long as the aircraft is flown at a constant ambient pressure (hence constant altitude), it will be following the earth's curvature (as the atmosphere is attached to the spherical earth and has same properties at same distance from the center, in an ideal case) as the altitude is measured from the surface, which is curved, and not a plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 hours ago, TheConsultant said: LOL! No alexa was far closer, centripetal force. Euler being centrifugal. 3 hours ago, TheConsultant said: LOL! No alexa was far closer, centripetal force. Euler being centrifugal. you dont think (in that video) the ropes, the tray and the glass has anything to do with it? lol .... you think the water will just spin around in the air on its own due to centripetal and centrifugal forces .. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 4 minutes ago, zArk said: you dont think (in that video) the ropes, the tray and the glass has anything to do with it? lol .... you think the water will just spin around in the air on its own due to centripetal and centrifugal forces .. lol Yes, you can do exactly the same freehand if enough force is applied to spin it and land it. Do the same with a non breakable cup or mug and put something inside fling it around and watch it not fall out until it hits the ground or loses enough momentum for gravity to take over from the centripetal and thus win. Pressure mediation. Something FE likes to discuss by using density which is a proponent of pressure mediation. Hard to take FE seriously when no one seemingly understands really basic concepts in the first place. Edited January 3 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: Yes, you can do exactly the same freehand if enough force is applied to spin it and land it. Do the same with a non breakable cup or mug and put something inside fling it around and watch it not fall out until it hits the ground or loses enough momentum for gravity to take over from the centripetal and thus win. Pressure mediation. Something FE likes to discuss by using density which is a proponent of pressure mediation. Hard to take FE seriously when no one seemingly understands really basic concepts in the first place. you're just being ridiculous a container is required always to demonstrate centripetal and centrifugal forces the plane hull and seat belt are what stop you falling out the plane ... without them you would be flying off at a tangent ... wait ... oh the irony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, zArk said: you're just being ridiculous a container is required always to demonstrate centripetal and centrifugal forces the plane hull and seat belt are what stop you falling out the plane ... without them you would be flying off at a tangent ... wait ... oh the irony https://www.separatorsinc.com/blog/centripetal-force-examples Centripetal and centrifugal is a force acting or negating another so called force from spin and/or vortices. It isn't complicated, the container shows the effect, notice the water levels stays pretty flat as it spins around as its entirely negating gravitational "force" which is actually not a force anyhow. But that just complicates the school level science discussion. Centrifugal motion is how nuclear grade uranium is made (a comouter virus was made arguably by at least one government state to attack the Iranian nuclear fission centrifuges to make them spin faster or slower and give the same A-OK reading. It got scientists killed. Centrifuges and spin are used in chemistry to speed up reactions, as catalysts to help separate materials, it is a natural force on display everywhere in nature. Edited January 3 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 hours ago, Bombadil said: What is your point? It's all photo shopped, CGI. https://youtu.be/R4YiOhjd9O4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 12 minutes ago, alexa said: It's all photo shopped, CGI. https://youtu.be/R4YiOhjd9O4 Quite a lot from space is "an artists impression" that bugs me a lot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, TheConsultant said: Centripetal and centrifugal is a force acting or negating another so called force from spin and/or vortices. It isn't complicated, the container shows the effect, notice the water levels stays pretty flat as it spins around as its entirely negating gravitational "force" which is actually not a force anyhow. But that just complicates the school level science discussion. Centrifugal motion is how nuclear grade uranium is made (a comouter virus was made arguably by at least one government state to attack the Iranian nuclear fission centrifuges to make them spin faster or slower and give the same A-OK reading. It got scientists killed. Centrifuges and spin are used in chemistry to speed up reactions, as catalysts to help separate materials, it is a natural force on display everywhere in nature. OKEY DOKEY heres the classic discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheConsultant Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 47 minutes ago, zArk said: OKEY DOKEY heres the classic discussion Centrifuges are how weapons grade chemicals are "cleaned" 'Fictitious' force in that it is inertia, I.E. inert by its true first original meaning, net sum being = to nothing acting upon it as its in equilibrium. Multiple forces acting on one another becoming null = orbit at distance determined by mass and thus gravitational effect which is equal to halving over distance or the inversion of inverse square law. Inverse square law and inverse of the inverse square law describes all radiated energies behaviour in relation to gravitation effect and of course what we call light. Light "travels" by doubling over distance, gravity "travels" by halving over distance which is why its the "weak force". The reason orbits settle at certain distances is determined by the mass and of course its spin which is trying to do the opposite of the orbit, pressure mediation determines where that null/orbit will be. I.E. two or more forces acting upon one another and energy conservation determining all things settle in to lowest energy states. Once the battle is won by whichever forces acting on one another it settles in to the null between (lowest energy state). Its how acoustic levitation works. Null in the soundwave is where the object settles the objects mass is cancelled by opposing force, all it requires is enough energy input to cancel the effect of gravity/mass on said object. It is ALL field theory and quite simple. A lot more simple than many of our physicists would like to think. FE are right on one thing, question sciences/education/reality but so far not achieving a whole lot. That conversation above genuinely made me lose braincells. A magnet has a centripetal and centrifugal affect Edited January 3 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, TheConsultant said: Centrifuges are how weapons grade chemicals are "cleaned" 'Fictitious' force in that it is inertia, I.E. inert by its true first original meaning, net sum being = to nothing acting upon it as its in equilibrium. Multiple forces acting on one another becoming null = orbit at distance determined by mass and thus gravitational effect which is equal to halving over distance or the inversion of inverse square law. Inverse square law and inverse of the inverse square law describes all matters behaviour in relation to gravitation effect. Light "travels" by doubling over distance, gravity "travels" by halving over distance which is why its the "weak force". The reason orbits settle at certain distances is determined by the mass and of course its spin which is trying to do the opposite of the orbit, pressure mediation determines where that null/orbit will be. It is ALL field theory and quite simple. A lot more simple than our physicists would like to think. FE are right on one thing, question sciences/education/reality but so far not achieving a whole lot. yes, its all theory. orbits are unproven speculation using notions such as gravity which has yet to be demonstrated between two objects. have you not seen this ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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