The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[Grumpy Owl]

On 12/15/2022 at 5:46 PM, alexa said:

I'm a firm believer that moon is translucent and gives off her own light.

Never let anyone tell you any different.

 

You can believe what you want to believe, doesn't make it factual or correct though.

[Origin]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

I reckon I know what your trying to say now. 

All predecessors knew something. As I said, there are still fragments left. They are always the same patterns, which means that people like me can also understand the ancient ones. Then I would say that science and Nasa know less than the predecessors. Because they always knew that it was not of natural origin.

[alexa]

3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

You can believe what you want to believe, doesn't make it factual or correct though.

 

 

Belief is an acceptance of something that exists or is true, especially one without proof.

[Origin]

6 hours ago, alexa said:

 

 

Belief is an acceptance of something that exists or is true, especially one without proof.

Is that enough? Humans can't discover anything on their own. Everything is set and all the possible answers exist. Even those that far exceed the imaginary 21st century. Belief is simply the first step. The second step is being able to see. The third step is communication and detailed answers to questions. Without using Humans language. And then automatically comes the comprehension that there was never a limit. Evolution is possible without human limitation.  

[zArk]

19 hours ago, Origin said:

Is the Moon an object for Flat Earth? Is Earth an Object? And everything in between? Humans obsessively cling to visual images. All I can say is there is more to it. It will be unexpected, and it will leave Humans in a state of utter disbelief.

i stamp my foot down... feels pretty solid to me. i take a shovel and can move earth.

 

the moon, it is a visual image . Noone has and noone will ever touch it.

 

its pretty simple state of things. touch using our designed biological sensory system, see using our designed eyes and write.

 

children learn through interaction with the earth and people.

 

confusion occurs with Television and Cinema. Separating the false reality of tv, cinema and internet from real life is most difficult these days.

a 2d image is being integrated into real life. Even a mirror has become part of the simulacra

 

the blue marble has been placed in the de centred subjects psyche and most do not know how to differentiate between 'make believe' and real

 

an error is the simulacra is being argued through to explain the real

 

like helio centrics applying their model to the flat earth model i.e a disc earth in space surrounded by sphere planets. an error of thought

 

extracate oneself from the world. the world is not the real. the world is not the earth

Edited December 17, 2022 by zArk

[Origin]

6 hours ago, zArk said:

i stamp my foot down... feels pretty solid to me. i take a shovel and can move earth.

 

the moon, it is a visual image . Noone has and noone will ever touch it.

 

its pretty simple state of things. touch using our designed biological sensory system, see using our designed eyes and write.

 

children learn through interaction with the earth and people.

 

confusion occurs with Television and Cinema. Separating the false reality of tv, cinema and internet from real life is most difficult these days.

a 2d image is being integrated into real life. Even a mirror has become part of the simulacra

 

the blue marble has been placed in the de centred subjects psyche and most do not know how to differentiate between 'make believe' and real

 

an error is the simulacra is being argued through to explain the real

 

like helio centrics applying their model to the flat earth model i.e a disc earth in space surrounded by sphere planets. an error of thought

 

extracate oneself from the world. the world is not the real. the world is not the earth

Earth, like the moon, is a tiny fragment of a spatial expanse. Someone who controls 'time' can slow down or also accelerate currents. The so-called moon can visually represent everything imaginable. This means that I understand something completely different under earth, moon, sun and universe. You are dealing with something that can design reality.

[alexa]

I found these up for sale, great for a last minute Christmas present.

 

Flat earth playing cards & a snow globe

 

 

 

 

Or maybe this.

 

Edited December 18, 2022 by alexa

[alexa]

The Mountains of the North Part 3

 

https://www.deanodle.org/videos-sermons2022

 

 

 

[alexa]

What causes 'Noctilucent clouds' ? They are becoming more frequent just lately.

 

 

The phenomenon of noctilucent clouds .

[alexa]

Have they finally cracked the dome ?  Is this the reason why we saw Noctilucent clouds over San Francisco yesterday. What the hell are they up too ?

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11555663/Mysterious-shock-wave-CRACKS-Earths-magnetosphere.html

 

 

[screamingeagle]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

Have they finally cracked the dome ? 

you flat earthers a really getting out of ideas....

[Origin]

7 hours ago, alexa said:

Have they finally cracked the dome ?  

 

 

Flat earther must connect every visible point of (light) in the firmament/universe. And all the others that are not observable to Humans. The fact that it has been deliberately decelerated by many factors should help you. 

[zArk]

15 hours ago, Origin said:

Flat earther must connect every visible point of (light) in the firmament/universe. And all the others that are not observable to Humans. The fact that it has been deliberately decelerated by many factors should help you. 

everyone has been created by the Stars at conception (some believe at birth)

[zArk]

On 12/18/2022 at 9:09 AM, alexa said:

 a snow globe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I used to love snow globes. They arent the fashion these day but hand one to a child and they are mesmerised

 

 

[alexa]

26 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

I used to love snow globes. They arent the fashion these day but hand one to a child and they are mesmerised

 

 

 

I know, I remember getting one as kid & being fascinated with it, but have moved on to the real McCoy now.

[DaleP]

I think if we think we are the holographic beings 'on' this Earth then this video is correct.

This could be another thread of its own but if there is another of you in some other dimension.....5D, 8D who knows... playing a virtual game,

then real you is up there but this you who are engaging in the forum is just a shadow, avatar of real you. therefore, you, earth does not exist really.

 

He then talk about horizontal or vertical waves at 5 mins 56 sec.

Both are correct imo, if you think about the shape of torus, it is going up and down (vertical wave) and moving horizontally at the same time.

 

So within the VR game (this earth), metaverse, there are rules but when you play a Xbox game and kill someone you might get arrected by Xbox police. Same thing goes here. But at the end of the day, it's only a game, an experience.

 

 

Then there is this chap. lol

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by DaleP

[sickofallthebollocks]

Posting this vid here because it's something that has always got me thinking, as well as water being unable to retain a bend/curve, another important factor for me is Plane travel, why does a plane (once reaching its required height in the sky) not constantly travel nose down, or even lower gradually until landing time? 
..when flying across a supposedly curved/round/pear shaped earth?
It doesn't, an Areoplane flies level, across a round planet an Aeroplane would exit the planet for space.
I remember last time I was on a plane (on a very long distance flight of 11 hours) watching on the screen every now and then, the speed and height of the plane I was travelling in - and it stayed at 38K feet the whole time, the speed varied and was constantly updated throughout the flight, this was a long time ago when I thought the earth was a globe, and at the time I thought it didn't make sense that a plane can fly straight and level half way accross the world without altering it's flight height?
 

 

Edited January 1 by sickofallthebollocks
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[XelNaga]

On 12/17/2022 at 12:21 AM, alexa said:

 

 

Belief is an acceptance of something that exists or is true, especially one without proof.

Belief is lack of knowledge + laziness + arrogance.

[sickofallthebollocks]

An interesting point made here regarding the North star:

 

[DaleP]

7 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Posting this vid here because it's something that has always got me thinking, as well as water being unable to retain a bend/curve, another important factor for me is Plane travel, why does a plane (once reaching its required height in the sky) not constantly travel nose down, or even lower gradually until landing time? 
..when flying across a supposedly curved/round/pear shaped earth?
It doesn't, an Areoplane flies level, across a round planet an Aeroplane would exit the planet for space.
I remember last time I was on a plane (on a very long distance flight of 11 hours) watching on the screen every now and then, the speed and height of the plane I was travelling in - and it stayed at 38K feet the whole time, the speed varied and was constantly updated throughout the flight, this was a long time ago when I thought the earth was a globe, and at the time I thought it didn't make sense that a plane can fly straight and level half way accross the world without altering it's flight height?
 

 

 

There you go then. The Earth is flat! Like a record player spinning.

I didn't know there was a hole in one of the Georgia guide stones. Obviously someone wanted to tell the truth and it needed to be found out.

[TheConsultant]

7 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Posting this vid here because it's something that has always got me thinking, as well as water being unable to retain a bend/curve, another important factor for me is Plane travel, why does a plane (once reaching its required height in the sky) not constantly travel nose down, or even lower gradually until landing time? 
..when flying across a supposedly curved/round/pear shaped earth?
It doesn't, an Areoplane flies level, across a round planet an Aeroplane would exit the planet for space.
I remember last time I was on a plane (on a very long distance flight of 11 hours) watching on the screen every now and then, the speed and height of the plane I was travelling in - and it stayed at 38K feet the whole time, the speed varied and was constantly updated throughout the flight, this was a long time ago when I thought the earth was a globe, and at the time I thought it didn't make sense that a plane can fly straight and level half way accross the world without altering it's flight height?
 

 

Water tension is maintaining a curve or bend. A meniscus at the top of a full glass of water is a perfect example. A water droplet is water tension in a sphere.

Plane travel is mostly automatic, the latitude it not maintained by pilots it is maintained by the planes onboard computer. 

[sickofallthebollocks]

3 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

There you go then. The Earth is flat! Like a record player spinning.

 

Flat as a witches tit mate.

[sickofallthebollocks]

3 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Water tension is maintaining a curve or bend. A meniscus at the top of a full glass of water is a perfect example. A water droplet is water tension in a sphere.

Plane travel is mostly automatic, the latitude it not maintained by pilots it is maintained by the planes onboard computer. 

...no surface tension whatsoever on something the size of the realm that we live on, also, how would you explain how surface tension/miniscus is a thing when waves break at a shoreline on a beach?
The tension for the meniscus theory to be applicable, would mean that the water within is contained on all sides at a constant pressure  to create the miniscus effect in the first place, waves break and fall at beaches accross the world, there is no miniscus effect that you get at the top of a testtube or glass of water.
All tension is broke at shorelines across the world.  No miniscus.
Plane travel was not automatic before the arrival of onboard computers, planes have always flew flat and level.

[TheConsultant]

28 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

...no surface tension whatsoever on something the size of the realm that we live on, also, how would you explain how surface tension/miniscus is a thing when waves break at a shoreline on a beach?
The tension for the meniscus theory to be applicable, would mean that the water within is contained on all sides at a constant pressure  to create the miniscus effect in the first place, waves break and fall at beaches accross the world, there is no miniscus effect that you get at the top of a testtube or glass of water.
All tension is broke at shorelines across the world.  No miniscus.
Plane travel was not automatic before the arrival of onboard computers, planes have always flew flat and level.

I didn't say a meniscus and water tension was what forms the flat or curved water around the earth, I said water can retain a curve/bend contrary to your statement above. I still am yet to see an FE model that makes any level of sense and until that happens its in the ignore it pile of bunk. Happy to eat my words on this subject at any point, I don't guarantee or know of course without any reasonable sane level of doubt and am not invested in either outcome, it could be an oblong.

Ask a pilot from before on board computers when it was manned, the height was maintained by hand by air pressure. Now done by air pressure and computers. We are talking a very minor adjustment over many miles. Put it in to perspective on a road, if I drove along a road with the same left or right curve gradient I would barely be doing anything whatsoever over 24 hours around the planet. Same goes for curvature around a sphere in a flightpath. 

Also a water droplet on its lonesome quite obviously shows that equilibrium to create the sphere of water tension within free-space is spherical for "some" reason. 

Edited January 1 by TheConsultant

[sickofallthebollocks]

25 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

I didn't say a meniscus and water tension was what forms the flat or curved water around the earth, I said water can retain a curve/bend contrary to your statement above.

Errr.. yep, you did, just here: 

 

1 hour ago, TheConsultant said:

Water tension is maintaining a curve or bend. A meniscus at the top of a full glass of water is a perfect example. A water droplet is water tension in a sphere.

Plane travel is mostly automatic, the latitude it not maintained by pilots it is maintained by the planes onboard computer. 

 

 

26 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

 I said water can retain a curve/bend contrary to your statement above.

No, it can't, water cannot retain a bend or curve unless supported on all sides in its entiety, such as in a pipe. A water droplet is meniscus, with surface tension, but that same droplet of water canot retain a perfect round curve on all sides, or its underneath,  it lands on a surface and has the meniscus effect, but the underside of that droplet is not round, it just sits on the surface it lands upon.