The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[webtrekker]

25 minutes ago, zArk said:

orbiting at 67,000 mph, chasing the sun at 500,000mph, inside the milky way moving at 670,000 mph

 

and you think that the stars above us will remain the same, night after night, month after month, year after year

 

Honestly, that requires some serious mental gymnastics.

 

of course thats not even including those stars claimed movements.

 

What do you not understand about the Universe being BIG!?

 

 

 

[webtrekker]

By be the way, while I'm here, has anyone found a copy of the Flat Earth Nautical Almanac yet?

 

Thought not! 

 

 

 

[peter]

4 hours ago, zArk said:

 

measure it.

 

helios have had hundreds of years and now have modern scientific instruments.

 

devise an experiment and try to measure any motion of the earth

 

 

My telescope experiment proves the motion of the earth ,prove that it doesn't

[zArk]

11 minutes ago, peter said:

My telescope experiment proves the motion of the earth ,prove that it doesn't

 

wait , you were suggesting the moon was rotating by your telescope experiment werent you, not the earth?

 

airys experiment did and still stands

[peter]

13 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

wait , you were suggesting the moon was rotating by your telescope experiment werent you, not the earth?

 

airys experiment did and still stands

No zark I wasn't you know that ,the experiment proves the earth rotates and has been explained to you on more than one occasion so don't plead ignorant  even though you have ignored it up till now,so here is your big chance prove me wrong

[zArk]

On 10/5/2021 at 11:15 PM, peter said:

2 If you look at the moon through a telescope with a manual mount without auto tracking , in a very short time the moon moves out of your field of view  to the right , this is a proven ,repeatable observation ,it never changes and as such your scope needs constant adjustment to keep the moon in your field of view. The telescope is used because it greatly narrows your field of view therefore any movement of the target or the point of observation is easily identified

thats your proof? the moon is moving east ---west. WOW!

 

 

N.B another helio experiment based upon the presumption that the moon is spinning,  the moon is orbiting the earth, the moon is moving west-east and the earth and moon is orbiting the sun together. Peter then uses the presumptions as a basis for his conclusions that moon moving right must mean the earth is spinning. Its not science, its mental flagellation 

 

no, the moon is moving that way. it always travels the sky that direction

Edited December 11, 2022 by zArk

[The All Eye]

2 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

have you ever heard of perspective and vanishing point.

you must have done it at school

 

Hahaha…there is that unscientific “evidence.”  Well, perspective is real, but makes no sense to explain the sun. But if your a FEer, just make up anything to explain your point.

Edited December 11, 2022 by The All Eye
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[Campion]

10 minutes ago, zArk said:

N.B another helio experiment based upon the presumption that the moon is spinning,  the moon is orbiting the earth, the moon is moving west-east and the earth and moon is orbiting the sun together.

 

I agree and to be even more accurate, objects orbit around their common centre of gravity, so the moon is causing the earth to wobble, and planets cause a tiny wobble in the sun.  However when there's such a difference in mass between the orbiting system, the centre of gravity is actually inside the earth. 

 

http://gyre.umeoce.maine.edu/physicalocean/Tomczak/IntExerc/basic5/quest06.html 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2022 by Campion

[The All Eye]

1 hour ago, zArk said:

no, its distance, perspective and vanishing point.

 

there is no sphere, there is no hemisphere

 

get your goggles out and explain why stars appear to move away from each other at the equator. It looks like a mangle. summit to do with perspective , viewing angle etc possibly?

 

 

 

 

this guy has an explanation. very intriguing how he integrates the dome as a reflective surface

 

 

This video is why no one takes FEers serious.  They just make up whatever they feel like to try and explain their “theory.”  Thanks for the video though, made me laugh pretty good.

 

Seriously, if your going to watch a video, please make sure they are a credible scientist, not some mutt job in his parent’s living room.

[TheConsultant]

5 hours ago, zArk said:

 

measure it.

 

helios have had hundreds of years and now have modern scientific instruments.

 

devise an experiment and try to measure any motion of the earth

 

 

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/115 - not devised by me, or carried out by me. We have been measuring the rotation (recorded historically) since 720 BC

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspa.2016.0404 - 720 BC to 2015 AD

I also asked a hypothetical question to Alexa specifically :)

[zArk]

3 minutes ago, The All Eye said:

This video is why no one takes FEers serious.  They just make up whatever they feel like to try and explain their “theory.”  Thanks for the video though, made me laugh pretty good.

 

Seriously, if your going to watch a video, please make sure they are a credible scientist, not some mutt job in his parent’s living room.

i think it demonstrates perspective very effectively.

 

whereas you aint got a spinning ball or a curve.

 

 

[The All Eye]

8 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/115 - not devised by me, or carried out by me. We have been measuring the rotation (recorded historically) since 720 BC

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspa.2016.0404 - 720 BC to 2015 AD

I also asked a hypothetical question to Alexa specifically :)

Great articles.  Dropping some science son.

Flat Earthers, even Scientologists need someone to laugh at.

[zArk]

1 minute ago, TheConsultant said:

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/115 - not devised by me, or carried out by me. We have been measuring the rotation (recorded historically) since 720 BC

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspa.2016.0404 - 720 BC to 2015 AD

 

what part of "based upon assumptions" do you fail to grasp

 

when reading into these things one always finds the assumption which informs the conclusion. The data is misread due to preconceived ideas

 

whether its 'space radiation' , the moon or the stars the assumptions and presumptions are staggeringly multiplicit 

 

 

[bamboozooka]

42 minutes ago, The All Eye said:

but makes no sense to explain the sun.

so perspective exists but not in relation to the sun

change the science to fit your warm fuzzy belief system

 

[The All Eye]

The FE theory is a mind controlled psyop courtesy of the CIA and Tavistock Institute.  The whole FE was developed to test a new form of mind control.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Just do a little research and you’ll see you’ve been duped.  They have your right where they want you.
 

Edited December 11, 2022 by The All Eye
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[hardtruthspitta]

3 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Of the globe or of the disk edge?

the surface curve. there must be a post here somewhere.

 

and this is just an observation from watching this play out back in 2016/17...

 

 

sums it up?

[TheConsultant]

33 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

so perspective exists but not in relation to the sun

change the science to fit your warm fuzzy belief system

 

You think FE is correct?

[webtrekker]

The whole business of accurate navigation on the surface of the Earth depends critically upon the mathematical calculations used to provide navigators with the Nautical Almanac.

 

These calculations are dependent upon a GLOBE model of Earth, so this is why I keep asking ...

 

Where is the FLAT Earth Nautical Almanac?

 

 

 

[TheConsultant]

38 minutes ago, The All Eye said:

The FE theory is a mind controlled psyop courtesy of the CIA and Tavistock Institute.  The whole FE was developed to test a new form of mind control.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Just do a little research and you’ll see you’ve been duped.  They have your right where they want you.
 

Whats scary is that the 'enlightened' are just as lied to as the rest. That quote you posted still applies to the so called illuminated, its one very big game until you reach the handful of people truly controlling this system, power structure is heavily compartmentalised and very much trickle down information that is heavily controlled and for good reason. The power structure is a pyramid

How does a sun dial work on a Flat Earth model? 

 

Edited December 11, 2022 by TheConsultant

[peter]

2 hours ago, zArk said:

thats your proof? the moon is moving east ---west. WOW!

 

 

N.B another helio experiment based upon the presumption that the moon is spinning,  the moon is orbiting the earth, the moon is moving west-east and the earth and moon is orbiting the sun together. Peter then uses the presumptions as a basis for his conclusions that moon moving right must mean the earth is spinning. Its not science, its mental flagellation 

 

no, the moon is moving that way. it always travels the sky that direction

It's obviously too dam hard for you zark,if your not smart enough to realize the implications of what I said I think I should be the one laughing,

Don't talk about mental flagellation  ,tell me in point form where I'm wrong and why,so we can discuss it

Mental flagellation by the way is somewhat more preferable than mental calcification 

 

No the moon is not traveling in that direction over a flat earth because the above mentioned experiment not only proves the earth is rotating but also  disproves FE 's rotating sun and moon over a flat earth  and I have explained why to you before and can be verified very simply

So if you don't agree with that statement ,point form as to why and we can discuss this as well.

Edited December 11, 2022 by peter

[peter]

41 minutes ago, hardtruthspitta said:

the surface curve. there must be a post here somewhere.

 

and this is just an observation from watching this play out back in 2016/17...

 

 

sums it up?

Brilliant and concise argument

[legion]

3 hours ago, zArk said:

 

the southern cross is not simulataneously viewable from everywhere in the south areas

 

polaris is viewable from everywhere in the north areas

 

explain that!

 

 

 

Maybe.. 

Maybe because its not the exact point that the Southern sky spins around. 

 

There is no star that the spindle aligns with, like the Pole Star in the North. 

 

So Southern observers use the Southern Cross and the constellation of Centaurus to 'find' the point of rotation. 

 

And rotate it does.. 

IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE NORTH. 

 

Stop avoiding this point and - 

 

Explain the different directions of rotation. 

Clockwise and anticlockwise. 

 

 

[hardtruthspitta]

1 hour ago, The All Eye said:

The FE theory is a mind controlled psyop courtesy of the CIA and Tavistock Institute.  The whole FE was developed to test a new form of mind control.  This should be common knowledge by now.  Just do a little research and you’ll see you’ve been duped.  They have your right where they want you.
 

doesnt 99% of american people believe the earth is a ball flying through space?

 

5 minutes ago, legion said:

 

Maybe.. 

Maybe because its not the exact point that the Southern sky spins around. 

 

There is no star that the spindle aligns with, like the Pole Star in the North. 

 

So Southern observers use the Southern Cross and the constellation of Centaurus to 'find' the point of rotation. 

 

And rotate it does.. 

IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE NORTH. 

 

Stop avoiding this point and - 

 

Explain the different directions of rotation. 

Clockwise and anticlockwise. 

 

 

can you post a video of what you are trying to say? the cartoon really doesnt help, bro.

[peter]

4 hours ago, zArk said:

the southern cross is not simulataneously viewable from everywhere in the south areas

 

polaris is viewable from everywhere in the north areas

 

explain that!

The southern cross is a group of stars  and none of them point due south to the celestial pole

Edited December 11, 2022 by peter

[legion]

Just now, hardtruthspitta said:

can you post a video of what you are trying to say? the cartoon really doesnt help, bro.

 

Nope. 

You can find one if you need one. 

 

In the Southern Hemisphere you can use the Southern Cross and Centaurus to find the point of rotation as shown in the picture. 

 

Where the 2 lines cross is the point of rotation in the Southern Hemisphere.