Certified Green of Heart Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) I have no opinion on this (whilst my mind is entertained, who cares about facts, lol), just spotted this on YT, and thought of that floating boat image on page 413... (real or not) Edited December 9, 2022 by Certified Green of Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 6:34 PM, zArk said: calculations based upon assumptions you asked your it ,you got it and you don't believe it ,how unusual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) hits mac 1 around 17,000 ft.. crunch mac 2 at 60,000ft.....ouch concord cruised at 60,000ft jumbo jets around 35,000ft Edited December 9, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, zArk said: hits mac 1 around 17,000 ft.. crunch mac 2 at 60,000ft.....ouch concord cruised at 60,000ft jumbo jets around 35,000ft Is DITRH the best you can come up with,from what I've seen this idiot couldn't explain how to skip rope and now for your amusement and viewing pleasure 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 @peter This is a response to a post that I read and watched while not signed in earlier today. I can't find it now...and don't comprehend why. But I'll respond still and include a link to the video you posted. I notice that you rarely post videos and prefer to debate with words. So I couldn't help but be a little curious. I gave up wasting time watching videos on this subject a long time ago. I thought l'd have a quick peep, but ended up watching the whole hour. This is a superb video, thanks. IMO...anyone new looking into this subject can save wasting days reading these 416 pages of repetitive, circular 'debates' by watching this exquisite video. It totally sums up this whole thread and whole subject. This is valid and should remain on this thread if this subject is to remain on this forum. I hope this stays here. The fact that Professor Dave who clearly debunks FE is also outspoken against anti-vaxxers does not faze me in the slightest. No-one has a complete grasp on everything in life. In fact I'd love to see Professor Dave debate vaxxines with Dr Mike Yeadon. I wonder if this could be arranged.. Anyway. Here's the video in question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 55 minutes ago, legion said: The fact that Professor Dave who clearly debunks FE is also outspoken against anti-vaxxers does not faze me in the slightest. Well it should... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, alexa said: Well it should... Explain to me why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, legion said: Explain to me why ? For anyone to talk against anti-vaxxers must work for the establishment, therefore I'd be inclined to take him with a pinch of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, alexa said: For anyone to talk against anti-vaxxers must work for the establishment No. Some people are just very naive and mistaken. His explanation about the shape of this place is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 @alexa Take Jordan Peterson for example. He has something extremely valid to say about 'Wokism / LGBT pronoun laws and feminism / getting your personal shit together. He's helped a lot of people get their heads together and deal with a lot of modern madness. But... But he calls out Christians and Muslims but not the chosen few. And hangs out with some very dodgy characters. So......he's totally correct on some stuff and totally wrong on other stuff. See how it works ? No-one can be relied on for all aspects of what we want to call 'Truth'. Regardless of whether they do it intentionally or accidentally. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, legion said: His explanation about the shape of this place is spot on. IMO it is Flat Earth Dave who is spot on & professor Dave is highly indoctrinated without any signs of hope. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, alexa said: IMO it is Flat Earth Dave who is spot on & professor Dave is highly indoctrinated without any signs of hope. I wouldn't expect anything different from you. Your inability to comprehend any valid information presented to you is legendary :O) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 @alexa Do you live in the Northern or Southern hemisphere ? Have you ever travelled / visited the other ? Have you direct experience of the different skies observable ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, legion said: @alexa Do you live in the Northern or Southern hemisphere ? Have you ever travelled / visited the other ? Have you direct experience of the different skies observable ? I've been to Jamaica, does this count ? 10 minutes ago, legion said: I wouldn't expect anything different from you. Your inability to comprehend any valid information presented to you is legendary :O) Cheeky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 minute ago, alexa said: I've been to Jamaica, does this count ? From where to there..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, legion said: From where to there..? The UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, alexa said: The UK Then the answer to my question is no... You would observe the Pole Star from the UK and Jamaica. You need to go further and in a different direction to observe the Southern Cross and experience the clockwise / anticlockwise action. l have seen and experienced this myself. Lived mainly in Europe- spent time in Australia / NZ / Fiji.... It's real.....and not explainable in any FE 'model'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, legion said: Then the answer to my question is no... You would observe the Pole Star from the UK and Jamaica. You need to go further and in a different direction to observe the Southern Cross and experience the clockwise / anticlockwise action. l have seen and experienced this myself. Lived mainly in Europe- spent time in Australia / NZ / Fiji.... It's real.....and not explainable in any FE 'model'. I'm sure there is a valid explanation for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, alexa said: I'm sure there is a valid explanation for this. I've yet to see one. I've been looking hard....and long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, alexa said: I'm sure there is a valid explanation for this. there's valid explantion for everything,the problem is when people start to look the evidence to support theirs preconcived claims.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screamingeagle Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, legion said: I've yet to see one. I've been looking hard....and long. your search is not fast enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, alexa said: I'm sure there is a valid explanation for this. Coriolis effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 8:34 PM, Velma said: Antarctica, arguably the most mysterious and certainly most inaccessible place on earth which, according to the scientists who are based there, contains nothing more than penguins and ice. Nonetheless, 55 states adhere to the treaty, originally signed by 12 nations in 1959, to make it off limits. This was in the aftermath of the disastrous ‘Operation High-Jump,’ still shrouded in secrecy. If the footage below, alleged to be from Captain Scott’s final and fatal 1912 expedition is genuine, it reveals the ruins of a lost civilization, including monolithic columns, statues and ziggurats, reminiscent of those found everywhere from Mesoamerica to Mesopotamia, which appear to have been reduced to rubble by a worldwide cataclysmic event, during the antediluvian period. If an advanced race did exist in Antarctica in antiquity, it completely rewrites history and we have been lied to for over a century by ‘The Royal Society’ archaeologists and explorers who have ignored this ancient worldwide civilization, that created all the inexplicable megalithic structures and out-of-place artifacts which litter the earth today. It’s time to unearth the forbidden truth. Antarctica is a particularly interesting topic, and while there are 'mysteries' surrounding it, I don't think it really ties in with the 'Flat Earth' stuff. If the planet is a globe, then periodically in its history, the poles have shifted, the axis of rotation has 'tilted', and the continent of Antarctica has 'moved' to the equatorial regions. When the poles shift back and the Earth tilts, Antarctica finds itself where it is now, at the south pole, covered in snow and ice. Whatever civilisation was living there, is buried under snow and ice now. In my opinion, 'Flat Earth' completely ignores or overlooks all of this. The 'tilting' of the poles, and the resulting crustal displacement, even go some way to explaining the 'Noah event' that caused a massive flood on this planet some 6000 years ago. Maybe the 'elites' are keen to get and maintain a foothold in Antarctica because they know when the next pole shift occurs, when the ice melts, its secrets will be revealed. And they'll have a new habitable land to live on. While the rest of us freeze to death. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, legion said: But I'll respond still and include a link to the video you posted. I notice that you rarely post videos and prefer to debate with words. So I couldn't help but be a little curious. I gave up wasting time watching videos on this subject a long time ago. I thought l'd have a quick peep, but ended up watching the whole hour. This is a superb video, thanks. The reason I don't post videos very often and watch them even less is I like to think about things for myself then form an opinion, if that opinion is right or wrong is another mater all together . I find that people these days are inherently lazy ,it's a lot easier to use utube videos to do their debating and with this brings some very inherent problems. First off they form an opinion then confirmation bias sets in and they cherry pick, disregarding anything inconvenient and then the debate degenerates into ,look at this ,well what about this then or have you seen that and all the while the sad fact of the matter is their not thinking for themselves,they have just become unwitting parrots or a mouth piece for someone else that has a vested interest in how many times their particular video is played. As far as the video I posted goes I can't take credit for it as it was recommended to me quite a while back and for the life of me I can't remember who it was Edited December 9, 2022 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, peter said: I find that people these days are inherently lazy ,it's a lot easier to use utube videos to do their debating and with this brings some very inherent problems. A hundred times - yes - especially on this topic 1 hour ago, peter said: As far as the video I posted goes I can't take credit for it as it was recommended to me quite a while back and for the life of me I can't remember who it was Where ever it popped up from - it's valid here. Not just for laying waste to a few key points of the debate -but actually displaying the dynamics of the debate. (like this very thread) Regardless of facts and truths - both sides didn't come out looking too good. Both Daves were very rude in their own particular ways. And FE Dave was keen to hop over to different points to avoid the conclusion of the previous point. Also extremely evasive and miss-using words and language to muddy the waters. It was just like a little snippet of this thread played out by actors in a scripted scene... It could have been titled - "The 2 Daves Play out a Dark Corner of the DI Forum" :O) Edited December 9, 2022 by legion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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