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31 minutes ago, peter said:

caught you out again zark ,who would of thought, at least alexa likes you ,I will probably be banned for this but in my opinion she doesn't exhibit the brains to know whats going on anyway.

As far as the definition of the equilux goes look it up ,sorry but your assumptions and interpretations mean nothing to me

wtf are you going on about?

 

i am asking a proper question because i cant answer 

 

if you cant tell me why

 

52degree north experiences equilux on 25th september, close to equator 3degree south  experiences it on 10 august , 52 south on 20th september, the equinox is the 23rd september ishly and all are on the same timezone longitudinal line

 

its very very odd

 

and the equator doesnt experience proper equilux , it maxes out at 12hrs 6mins.

 

what a crock, Marys harbour experiences 12hr 0min 10secs equilux

 

how can that be better than at the equator.

 

it doesnt make sense

 

 

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Good godwit! Bird flies 8,425 miles NON-STOP from Alaska to Australia - setting a new world record

 

I wouldn't say it's 8,425 from Alaska to OZ, well not for a bird as they would just fly in a straight direction.

 

The UN logo map.

 

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So this story is bogus for a start.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11359921/Good-godwit-Bird-flies-8-425-miles-NON-STOP-Alaska-Australia-setting-new-world-record.html

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4 hours ago, peter said:

I don't do utube ,but zark for you I will make an exception

the type of moron who has never done a "today i found out" on Airys Failure, Sagnacs interferometer experiement and who has never, ever , ever found an earth curve

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think I've struck a nerve,I can see utube vids coming thick and fast

 

29 minutes ago, zArk said:

the type of moron who has never done a "today i found out" on Airys Failure, Sagnacs interferometer experiement and who has never, ever , ever found an earth curve

Another one of your opinions ,how do you know what he has or hasn't done,you have no evidence to support the above statement

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2 hours ago, alexa said:

Rainbows prove the existence of a firmament/dome.

Watch @ 43:10

 

 

 

 

Go to 47:20 in your video 'proof' Alexa. If you can see the rainbow reflected in the firmament (ie. a double rainbow) then why can't you also see the SUNLIT Earth reflected?

 

I was taught in Physics that rainbows are the result of total internal reflection in spherical droplets of water vapour. Nothing I have ever seen has debunked that explanation, and in fact only reinforces it.

 

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Since you Flerthers are so fond of youtube, here's a very simple to understand video explaining TIR (Total Internal Reflection).

 

 

 

Also, I have looked DOWN on rainbows from aircraft flying above the clouds, so not even looking at your 'firmament.'

 

Will you now answer the reflection question I posted days ago?

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bombadil said:

What about the planes and clouds amongst others above a rainbow?

 

If you watch the video is explains about a double rainbow, the rainbow above is showing as a reflection from the dome but maybe you will only see this double rainbow on a clear day.

 

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We know this is a reflection because of the sequence of the colors of of the rainbow above.

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56 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Also, I have looked DOWN on rainbows from aircraft flying above the clouds, so not even looking at your 'firmament.'

 

Will you now answer the reflection question I posted days ago?

 

Unfortunately I can't as I'm not entirly sure what the dome is made of but if you go to 57:21 on the video I posted, he gives us a clue of what the dome may be made of.

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28 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Unfortunately I can't as I'm not entirly sure what the dome is made of but if you go to 57:21 on the video I posted, he gives us a clue of what the dome may be made of.

 

No need to know what it's made of. I'm just saying that if, as claimed, it can reflect a rainbow, it should also be reflecting the surface of the Earth. You can't just pick and choose what's reflected.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

We know this is a reflection because of the sequence of the colors of of the rainbow above.

It's been explained to you before alexa as to why and it has nothing to do with a firmament

 

Throughout history, mankind has interpreted the appearance of a rainbow in the sky as a good omen –– a sign that the storms have passed and better days are ahead; a bridge between the earthly realm and that of the heavens; or even a marker pointing to the location of a hidden pot of gold!

However you interpret the appearance of a rainbow, we now know that there is a scientific explanation for why it occurs in the first place. But if you’re especially lucky, you may have seen a fully double rainbow, where you get two rainbows for the price of one! Let’s take a look at the science behind these incredible optical phenomena!

What Causes Any Rainbow?

Before we explain the science of double rainbows, let’s review the science behind a single rainbow. A single rainbow is an optical illusion created by the reflection, refraction, and dispersion of light through the prism of a water drop.

When sunlight emerges through the clouds following a rainstorm, that light hits the water drops that are still floating or falling through the sky. Some of the sunlight is reflected right away, but some of it enters the water drop and as it does, it is refracted at the surface. When this light hits the back of the raindrop, it bounces back and once again leaves the raindrop. Only now, the light has been separated into its individual color frequencies. The result is a rainbow of color that exits the raindrop.

The colors of the rainbow are the same for everyone: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet (ROYGBIV). In a single rainbow, red is the most prominent color and appears as the ‘top’ band of color. This is due to the properties of light, including frequency and wavelength, of which you can learn more here.

Last but not least, a rainbow does not have a physical presence; it is an optical illusion and its ‘existence’ depends on the position of the observer’s head. So while the good news is that science, light, and color are endlessly fascinating, the bad news is that you’ll never be able to follow a rainbow to its end to find a pot of gold!

What is a Double Rainbow?

During a fully double rainbow, you will notice that one rainbow is noticeably brighter than the other. This brighter rainbow is called the primary rainbow. The primary rainbow, as we described above, is the result of light reflecting off of water drops once, then reflecting back out of the drop.

The second rainbow is called, you guessed it, the secondary rainbow. Secondary rainbows appear due to a phenomenon that is similar to the primary rainbow, with one big difference: the light that enters the raindrop and refracts at the surface does not escape after hitting the back of the raindrop. Instead, that light is refracted a second time, creating the secondary rainbow

The Differences Between Primary & Secondary Rainbows

There are a few key differences between primary and secondary rainbows. First, the colors of the secondary rainbow are inverted from the primary rainbow. That’s right: the colors of secondary rainbows are the opposite of primary rainbows, moving from violet, indigo, blue, green, yellow, orange, and red (VIBGYOR).

You’ll also notice that this rainbow is not as bright; secondary rainbows are always fainter and harder to see than primary rainbows. This is because the amount of light that is refracted a second time (rather than escaping the raindrop) is much less than the amount of light responsible for creating a primary rainbow. Finally, the shape and location of the secondary rainbow are going to be about 10 degrees outside of the primary rainbow and it will radiate at an angle of 50 degrees.

A secondary rainbow is an exceptionally rare sight, so if you do happen to spot a double rainbow stretching all the way across the sky, consider yourself lucky!

 

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2 hours ago, webtrekker said:

why can't you also see the SUNLIT Earth reflected

again trying to support the moon light nonsense of sunlight reflection

 

the moon is self luminating

 

what is a proper problem is how Marys harbour experiences equilux on 20th sept , Manaus on 10th august, stanley on 25th september and the equinox is dated 23rd sept. 

 

another helio model fail. how many more until you lot drop tye spheroid nonsense and engage brain? 

 

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, zArk said:

again trying to support the moon light nonsense of sunlight reflection

 

the moon is self luminating

 

what is a proper problem is how Marys harbour experiences equilux on 20th sept , Manaus on 10th august, stanley on 25th september and the equinox is dated 23rd sept. 

 

another helio model fail. how many more until you lot drop tye spheroid nonsense and engage brain? 

 

 

 

 

 

Why bother posting if you can't answer that simple question? What's it got to do with the Moon FFS?

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11 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

Why bother posting if you can't answer that simple question? What's it got to do with the Moon FFS?

oh come on, youre applying the fantasy moonlight being sunlight reflected onto this query

 

Why would the earth reflect the sunlight onto a dome?

 

Maybe if you thought about your query a little more you would see that the theorectical reflection would occur at an inconvenient angle

 

Only at the equator does the Sun appear 90 degrees overhead. The dome is a curved structure which would mean the centre is above the north pole (ishly) so

 

theorectically at the equator , the reflected earth could hit the dome at an angle of incidence greater than 0 degrees.

depending on the curve of the dome and depending upon the surface condition of the dome and depending upon the reflectiveness of the dome material.

 

A reflection or refraction of the Sun *could* appear as a sun dogs, but this is a source much closer to the dome and is the origin of light that we know

 

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5 minutes ago, zArk said:

oh come on, youre applying the fantasy moonlight being sunlight reflected onto this query

 

Why would the earth reflect the sunlight onto a dome?

 

Maybe if you thought about your query a little more you would see that the theorectical reflection would occur at an inconvenient angle

 

Only at the equator does the Sun appear 90 degrees overhead. The dome is a curved structure which would mean the centre is above the north pole (ishly) so

 

theorectically at the equator , the reflected earth could hit the dome at an angle of incidence greater than 0 degrees.

depending on the curve of the dome and depending upon the surface condition of the dome and depending upon the reflectiveness of the dome material.

 

A reflection or refraction of something *could* appear as a sun dogs, but this is a source much closer to the dome and is the origin of light that we know

 

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Nice picture zark who took that, are you sure there isn't an illuminated sports oval behind that line of trees

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2 hours ago, webtrekker said:

 

No need to know what it's made of. I'm just saying that if, as claimed, it can reflect a rainbow, it should also be reflecting the surface of the Earth. You can't just pick and choose what's reflected.

 

 

 

 

Of course we need to know what it is made of, who knows why this happens, but it does.

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6 hours ago, alexa said:

 

Of course we need to know what it is made of, who knows why this happens, but it does.

If your talking about the double rainbow the explanation is on this page,if you chose not to  look at it  or believe it that's on you and it's not the first time you have brought this question  up and funnily enough  the answer hasn't changed,I guess we can all look forward to it in another hundred or so pages

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20 hours ago, alexa said:

 

Of course we need to know what it is made of, who knows why this happens, but it does.

 

@webtrekker I should have said ' Who knows why this rainbow is is reflected by the dome'. As for knowing what the firmament is made of, I really have no idea but in scripture it say's it is as strong as a molten looking glass?

 

Molten glass is ejected through fine holes in it's perimeter walls, to meet a blast of cold air that solidifies the glass into relatively coarse and short fibres. The molten looking glass is a reference to a brass mirror. job is a very old book, and at that time mirrors were not made from glass but from metal that was poured out, then beaten flat and polished. it is clear that job 37:18 is stating that the sky is as hard as a metal mirror.

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35 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

If the moon is self illuminated, why doesn't it appear like a 'full moon'  🌕 every day then? 🤔

 

🌑 🌒 🌓 🌔 🌕 🌖 🌗 🌘 🌚

 

we can see stars through the moon

 

50 times the sun has been in the sky during a lunar eclipse

 

 

 

 

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