peter Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: So much hostility. Having a biblical name like Peter, maybe the dude should just chill out and read his mom’s bible or Koran for some answers instead of attacking everyone who has a different opinion to his. If a bible or other ancient religious text makes him revolt in confused,abject terror, check out Eric Dubay on YouTube. Oi Eric! Put your green Thai curry down and come and sort these heathens out! Edited October 25, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) so anyway back to my equinox oddity which is (as everyone is told) is the equal day and night ... but its not apparently there is an equinox and equilux https://ourplnt.com/equilux-equinox/ equinox is equal night equilux is equal day yeah, i know, its retarded as i would say equal night = equal day and visa versa but officialdom says no! equinox is, as officialdom states, is actually the date when the Equator passes through teh geometric centre of the Sun whereas equilux is the date that its half /half ... yeah, are you getting the feeling of "ops helio centrism made a fuck up so we will make up something to cover it up"? (rhetorical) My query was, on this thread, why is the half day half day another date i.e 17th March and 25th september whereas the equinox is roughly around 22nd march and 22nd of september so i extended my personal query to the equilux (tbh never heard of it) On 25th September Stanley is closest to equilux 52degrees South On 25th September Marys Harbour is closest to equilux 52degrees North On 15th October Manaus is closest to equilux 3degree South EH? wtaf So the point between Stanley and Marys Harbour on their equilux MUST suggest in the helio model, that the Sun is equidistance and equipositioned between the 2 places and thus must also suggest that the 90 degree position on earth is also equilux on the 25th but no , equilux occurs on the equator 15th October but officialdom states that the Equinox (geometric centre) is the 22nd September but no equator place has the equilux on the 22nd september big questions Edited October 26, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I still haven't had an answer to my simple question about why Flat Earth isn't refected in the supposed glass/diamond dome/firmament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, zArk said: so anyway back to my equinox oddity which is (as everyone is told) is the equal day and night ... but its not apparently there is an equinox and equilux https://ourplnt.com/equilux-equinox/ equinox is equal night equilux is equal day yeah, i know, its retarded as i would say equal night = equal day and visa versa but officialdom says no! equinox is, as officialdom states, is actually the date when the Equator passes through teh geometric centre of the Sun whereas equilux is the date that its half /half ... yeah, are you getting the feeling of "ops helio centrism made a fuck up so we will make up something to cover it up"? (rhetorical) My query was, on this thread, why is the half day half day another date i.e 17th March and 25th september whereas the equinox is roughly around 22nd march and 22nd of september so i extended my personal query to the equilux (tbh never heard of it) On 25th September Stanley is closest to equilux 52degrees South On 25th September Marys Harbour is closest to equilux 52degrees North On 15th October Manaus is closest to equilux 3degree South EH? wtaf So the point between Stanley and Marys Harbour on their equilux MUST suggest in the helio model, that the Sun is equidistance and equipositioned between the 2 places and thus must also suggest that the 90 degree position on earth is also equilux on the 25th but no , equilux occurs on the equator 15th October but officialdom states that the Equinox (geometric centre) is the 22nd September but no equator place has the equilux on the 22nd september big questions Why do you have to go back to your equinox oddity as I said before which you have obviously forgot ,one would expect the winter and summer solstice to be the exact same duration only if the orbit of the earth is indeed a perfect circle, it seems short term memory loss is a prerequisite for you on this thread. Where is your evidence for the firmament ,which I asked for a few pages back and your working model for a flat earth and still none is forthcoming Edited October 26, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, webtrekker said: I still haven't had an answer to my simple question about why Flat Earth isn't refected in the supposed glass/diamond dome/firmament. refracted through the waters above? light scattering ? ++++++ what sort of response do you require? the dome/firmament is intimately linked to the waters above see the effect of sound on water coupled with the 'flat earth' assertion that the sun is inside the firmament the above 2 explanations fit nicely, ta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, peter said: one would expect the winter and summer solstice to be the exact same duration only if the orbit of the earth is indeed a perfect circle, Does the Earths axial precession not answer the differing of equinox? It ranges from 22.5 to 24.5 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, peter said: Why do you have to go back to your equinox oddity as I said before which you have obviously forgot ,one would expect the winter and summer solstice to be the exact same duration only if the orbit of the earth is indeed a perfect circle, it seems short term memory loss is a prerequisite for you on this thread. Where is your evidence for the firmament ,which I asked for a few pages back and your working model for a flat earth and still none is forthcoming because thats not the issue, as well you know. how can stanley and mary harbour have equilux on the same day but the equator experiences it 20 days later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, zArk said: refracted through the waters above? light scattering ? ++++++ what sort of response do you require? the dome/firmament is intimately linked to the waters above see the effect of sound on water coupled with the 'flat earth' assertion that the sun is inside the firmament the above 2 explanations fit nicely, ta Typical FE 'answer.' You lot say the dome, or firmament, is made og lass or diamond (I've seen this qoted all over the place) so how can we not see the Earth reflected in this dome above us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, webtrekker said: Typical FE 'answer.' You lot say the dome, or firmament, is made og lass or diamond (I've seen this qoted all over the place) so how can we not see the Earth reflected in this dome above us? never said that. i guess some people calling themself a 'flat earther' have said the firmament is made of glass but i havent i have noted blue ice, frozen oxygen, as a possibility and i have noted the dense air at 72miles up and said i think there are rivers of varying density high in the sky regarding seeing the dome, maybe go over to Jason Breshears and sky machinery https://www.bitchute.com/video/wdHtxXXMJqYa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, zArk said: i have noted the dense air at 72miles up Really? At that altitude the air density is virtually ZERO! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, webtrekker said: Really? At that altitude the air density is virtually ZERO! really. you have no substantiated evidence of that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, zArk said: really. you have no substantiated evidence of that statement. I'm not even going to grace that ridiculous comment with an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, webtrekker said: I'm not even going to grace that ridiculous comment with an answer. look at the thread title. It all needs to be hashed out. Now, are you satisfied that the question was answered in some form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, zArk said: look at the thread title. It all needs to be hashed out. Now, are you satisfied that the question was answered in some form? I am satisfied that I am discussing with an AI Chatbot and not a sane human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) On 10/25/2022 at 4:05 AM, peter said: another brilliant opinion piece from zark why is there nothing from the heliocentrists?? Sorry to burst you bubble zark but just maybe you and your ilk are not taken seriously enough and after 400 odd pages of this shit I can certainly understand why I am neither for or against FE theory. However, I actually don't see actual 100% proof of either, thats why my mind stays open....rather than trying to belittle someones viewpoint. I see we have pilots here....and I know pilots myself. But, even after talking with them there is no concrete evidence of a globe.... So here I sit still wondering... I love to see the different viewpoints .... demeaning a view doesn't conclude another view. Edited October 26, 2022 by Beaujangles 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Beaujangles said: I am neither for or against FE theory. However, I actually don't see actual 100% proof of either, thats why my mind stays open....rather than trying to belittle someones viewpoint. I see we have pilots here....and I know pilots myself. But, even after talking with them there is no concrete evidence of a globe.... So here I sit still wondering... I love to see the different viewpoints .... demeaning a view doesn't conclude another view. Have you read the entire thread?,if so you would realize it is not the alternate point of view that I have issue with. Edited October 26, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 MOD NOTE: Same tedious bickering going on as always. Get back on topic please. No reply needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, zArk said: really. you have no substantiated evidence of that statement. The fact that you can't get into an aircraft with a normally aspirated engine and fly to that height may just be a good indicator, and the fact that you haven't got any evidence for your blue ice, frozen oxygen etc is rather ironic Edited October 26, 2022 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 hours ago, zArk said: Now, are you satisfied that the question was answered in some form? Yes you did answer the question in some form ,that can't be denied ,the fact that you used complete and utter bullshit in my opinion to do so is another thing all together 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 16 hours ago, zArk said: so anyway back to my equinox oddity which is (as everyone is told) is the equal day and night ... but its not apparently there is an equinox and equilux https://ourplnt.com/equilux-equinox/ equinox is equal night equilux is equal day yeah, i know, its retarded as i would say equal night = equal day and visa versa but officialdom says no! equinox is, as officialdom states, is actually the date when the Equator passes through teh geometric centre of the Sun whereas equilux is the date that its half /half ... yeah, are you getting the feeling of "ops helio centrism made a fuck up so we will make up something to cover it up"? (rhetorical) My query was, on this thread, why is the half day half day another date i.e 17th March and 25th september whereas the equinox is roughly around 22nd march and 22nd of september so i extended my personal query to the equilux (tbh never heard of it) On 25th September Stanley is closest to equilux 52degrees South On 25th September Marys Harbour is closest to equilux 52degrees North On 15th October Manaus is closest to equilux 3degree South EH? wtaf So the point between Stanley and Marys Harbour on their equilux MUST suggest in the helio model, that the Sun is equidistance and equipositioned between the 2 places and thus must also suggest that the 90 degree position on earth is also equilux on the 25th but no , equilux occurs on the equator 15th October but officialdom states that the Equinox (geometric centre) is the 22nd September but no equator place has the equilux on the 22nd september big questions Zark ,go look it up I just did because I was interested,it took about 2 min to find out why and the different variables involved, I doubt you have even looked for an explanation and if you had and chose not to believe it ,that's on you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, peter said: Zark ,go look it up I just did because I was interested,it took about 2 min to find out why and the different variables involved, I doubt you have even looked for an explanation and if you had and chose not to believe it ,that's on you I didnt read what we wrote to be honest, I skimmed. What is the answer? as I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheConsultant said: I didnt read what we wrote to be honest, I skimmed. What is the answer? as I have no idea. The equilux is when the day and the night are of equal duration and when this occurs depends where you are on the earth an equinox is a point in time when the earths equator passes through the geometric center of the sun this occurs twice a year 18 hours ago, zArk said: equinox is equal night equilux is equal day notice zarks interpretation is incorrect as an equilux is not equal days ,once again he has changed a small fact to bolster his argument and waste your time just like his picture of the sun and moon together obviously fake, and every other time I've caught him out,however knowing what he is like I went to the web sight he highlighted and it only took about 2 seconds to spot the inconsistency so once again zark is comparing apples and oranges (is it just me or does anyone else see a pattern here) Since you asked the main variables as I see it without going in-depth that cause the equilux time differences is 1 the angle of the earths axis 2 the fact that the earth orbits above and below the suns elliptical plane 3 the size of the suns disc with regards to sun set and sun rise and therefore the time duration differences between night and day (this I would say is one of the main reasons) 4 the fact that the earth's orbit is not a perfect circle 5 and to a lesser degree earths axial wobble. Remember none of these things are possible on a flat earth so I'm obviously wrong Edited October 27, 2022 by peter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 4 hours ago, peter said: Have you read the entire thread?,if so you would realize it is not the alternate point of view that I have issue with. Yes, I have and yes I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Beaujangles said: Yes, I have and yes I know. zarks recent post with regards to the equilux is a prime example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, peter said: notice zarks interpretation is incorrect as an equilux is not equal days jesus even with this Peter finds a way to disagree equilux is 12hr day which leaves 12 hr night. (equal light) equinox is supposed to be equal night which is the same as the equilux The moronicness of the helio system is epitomised in this situation Equinox , meaning equal night ==== 12hrs night , 12hrs day Equilux , meaning equal day ------ 12 hrs day , 12hrs night If you cant work out from 24 hrs in a day that equal split between day and night is 12 hrs then you need a support worker and get back to maths class but now i know the equinox is not equal night, its actually the day the equator hits geometric centre to the sun. (waffling bollocks by the helio centrists) 4 hours ago, peter said: The equilux is when the day and the night are of equal duration and when this occurs depends where you are on the earth an equinox is a point in time when the earths equator passes through the geometric center of the sun this occurs twice a year STOP! why are you repeating what i wrote ?(below link) Are you attempting to hijack my raised issue? Deflate that head of yours and think about this issue. 3 points on a very very very close longitude. 1 as close to middle as possible , the equator, (on time and date) and 2 equally distant from the middle and thus each other at 52 degrees north and south. the 2 points at 52 degrees experience an equilux, the equator doesnt until 20 days later the equator is at equinox (not equal night but geometric centre) on 22nd september but doesnt experience equilux until 23 days later lets try and work this out. 4 hours ago, peter said: Since you asked the main variables as I see it without going in-depth that cause the equilux time differences is 1 the angle of the earths axis 2 the fact that the earth orbits above and below the suns elliptical plane 3 the size of the suns disc with regards to sun set and sun rise and therefore the time duration differences between night and day (this I would say is one of the main reasons) 4 the fact that the earth's orbit is not a perfect circle 5 and to a lesser degree earths axial wobble. Remember none of these things are possible on a flat earth so I'm obviously wrong Again floundering off into nothing to do with the issue i raise. Re-read the issue raised and try to engage with it rather than applying an answer to what you think i wrote is. Edited October 27, 2022 by zArk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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