peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 57 minutes ago, zArk said: snt it true that the 'telescope' is actually capturing radiation in the form of data code which is then translated into the image we are shown imo there is a massive amount of artistic license and presumptions and assumptions to create the image That's like saying that there is a great deal of artistic license with ct scans etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, alexa said: You'd expect by now that NASA would have picture of the earth what with the Isis space station up there. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stunning-photos-of-earth-from-the-international-space-station1/ Your just like the government investigation into 9/11, they didn't find any explosives because they didn't look for them. There's plenty more if your interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, peter said: That's like saying that there is a great deal of artistic license with ct scans etc not at all. Dissections and operations have confirmed the size, shape and position of organs in a body that is on average 5ft 10" slighty rotund ranging from 30" hips to a fatfuck 50" . we can touch and walk around bodies whereas stars ,in the helio model, are said to be millions, trillions , zillions of light years away in a galaxy far far faaaarrrr away called bollocksland. inverse sq law of light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, alexa said: You'd expect by now that NASA would have picture of the earth what with the Isis space station up there. You need to do a little more research Alexa. https://qz.com/458826/behold-nasas-first-image-in-decades-of-the-whole-earth Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 53 minutes ago, zArk said: not at all. Dissections and operations have confirmed the size, shape and position of organs in a body that is on average 5ft 10" slighty rotund ranging from 30" hips to a fatfuck 50" . we can touch and walk around bodies whereas stars ,in the helio model, are said to be millions, trillions , zillions of light years away in a galaxy far far faaaarrrr away called bollocksland. inverse sq law of light Come on zark I caught you out with your bullshit photo of the sun and moon together So what your saying is if you cant touch it see it or smell it, it doesn't exist then at the end you quote the inverse square law and finish with an emoji. Well shit I'm impressed It seem like you never considered the mathematical algorithms to create the final images with regards to CT scans and the james web telescope. Just so you don't twist my words I realize the operating algorithms are not the same but each data set would have to follow a defined set of rules for the respective images produced,and just in finishing as I said to your cohort there are plenty of pictures of the earth taken from the ISS showing curvature,if you care to look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, peter said: Come on zark I caught you out with your bullshit photo of the sun and moon together why be so confrontational? you claim the photo is fake. ... i noted it and will not speak of it until provenance can be proven 14 minutes ago, peter said: So what your saying is if you cant touch it see it or smell it, it doesn't exist then at the end you quote the inverse square law and finish with an emoji. Well shit I'm impressed It seem like you never considered the mathematical algorithms to create the final images with regards to CT scans and the james web telescope. Just so you don't twist my words I realize the operating algorithms are not the same but each data set would have to follow a defined set of rules for the respective images produced,and just in finishing as I said to your cohort there are plenty of pictures of the earth taken from the ISS showing curvature,if you care to look dont try and rewrite what i wrote. what i wrote is what i wrote ... "so what your saying is", dont twist i disagree with your final statement as all video from and in the ISS are fakery. We have posted a few videos of the live feed showing shearing images of the earth and of course the multitude of green screen inside the ISS . Which picture of the blue marble is the correct one? Can you clarify which is officially claimed as correct and the others incorrect? Edited October 21, 2022 by zArk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, zArk said: 'Notice anything funny about the size of the United States?' Oh yes! How could I have missed that! The planet has ROTATED! Thanks for pointing that out zark! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, webtrekker said: 'Notice anything funny about the size of the United States?' Oh yes! How could I have missed that! The planet has ROTATED! Thanks for pointing that out zark! You saved me from having to state the bloody obvious, I will have to by a third packet of straws soon someone keeps clutching at them 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, zArk said: Four different images taken at 4 different times, from 4 different heights and 4 different positions, brilliant evidence, I wonder which is the correct one. Do I get a prize if I guess the right one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Quote That's "Blue Marble 2012", another composite image, but this time made with the Suomi NPP satellite. Is the difference here because the Suomi satellite at a lower height compared to the Terra satellite from the 2002 images? No, the Suomi satellite at 517 miles, it actually higher than Terra, at 438 miles. And from either of those altitudes, you'd only be able to see a relatively small part of the Earth. eh? composite image ... composite image.... nice graphics but difficulty translating the flatearth photos to a globe theres definately a glitch when the computer creates the image. the size of north america is noticably different and the gulf of california is easy to spot.. just open the 2012 and 2015 separately and compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, zArk said: eh? composite image ... composite image.... I knew you would jump on that one ,all I can say is so what I guess you have never heard of differing focal lengths for lenses,I very much doubt that each image was produced by the same camera or lens particularly the one at 443 miles that you highlighted,don't you think the respective technology would have improved somewhat over the indicated time period we have seen these pics before and the answers haven't changed,no matter many times you bring up the same stuff, doesn't change anything Edited October 21, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, peter said: I knew you would jump on that one ,all I can say is so what I guess you have never heard of differing focal lengths for lenses,I very much doubt that each image was produced by the same camera or lens particularly the one at 443 miles that you highlighted,don't you think the respective technology would have improved somewhat over the indicated time period 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, peter said: I knew you would jump on that one ,all I can say is so what I guess you have never heard of differing focal lengths for lenses,I very much doubt that each image was produced by the same camera or lens particularly the one at 443 miles that you highlighted,don't you think the respective technology would have improved somewhat over the indicated time period regardless of the distance the land mass wouldnt change its size ratio to the globe. its pathetic the crap spouted about clear photo fakery the flat earth is being photographed , then the photos are shoved into a globe model the ISS live feed does similar but in real time (not the ISS were told about.. a drone) Edited October 21, 2022 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, zArk said: its pathetic the crap spouted about clear photo fakery funny how you can spot them but not the obvious one with the sun and moon together,do I suspect a not so subtle amount of confirmation bias has crept into you thought processes 8 minutes ago, zArk said: regardless of the distance the land mass wouldnt change its size ratio to the globe. Of course the land mass would look different unless the pics were taken from the exact same position ,you seem to have conveniently forgotten the ridiculous example you put a few posts back with the two American land masses where one was clearly rotated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, peter said: f course the land mass would look different unless the pics were taken from the exact same positio wouldnt change ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 hours ago, webtrekker said: You need to do a little more research Alexa. https://qz.com/458826/behold-nasas-first-image-in-decades-of-the-whole-earth Just saying. There's really no need for me to your reply to your post, just see zArk's posts above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 using Celestia oooo its close. Considering a zoom lens on DSCOVR the ratio is very similar to Celstia at 10,000km however theres a big problem with the 2012 image. It just doesnt fit with Celestia the closer i zoom to get North america bigger to match the 2012 image ... the bigger the earth gets.. funny that. shall we say that the 2015 DSCVR image is a good Celestia copy and the 2015 is an anomoly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, zArk said: using Celestia oooo its close. Considering a zoom lens on DSCOVR the ratio is very similar to Celstia at 10,000km however theres a big problem with the 2012 image. It just doesnt fit with Celestia the closer i zoom to get North america bigger to match the 2012 image ... the bigger the earth gets.. funny that. shall we say that the 2015 DSCVR image is a good Celestia copy and the 2015 is an anomoly? MOD NOTE: Ok. The best way to resolve this argument once and for all is to post a verifiable photo of the flat Earth. Without this everything else is just unprovable speculation. I would appreciate polite and sensible replies. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Bombadil said: MOD NOTE: Ok. The best way to resolve this argument once and for all is to post a verifiable photo of the flat Earth. Without this everything else is just unprovable speculation. I would appreciate polite and sensible replies. I already posited this in this thread. Flat Earthers "demand proof" by providing a photo of the Earth showing it is indeed a 'globe' or 'ball'. I accept that due to the lack of actual cameras out there in space in orbit around our planet that there are not any actual 'real photos' of the Earth that we can gaze upon. But for exactly the same reasons, the "Flat Earthers" are unable to provide any actual photographic proof of the Earth being a flat disc. So as far as I am concerned this is either 'stalemate' or 'checkmate'. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: I already posited this in this thread. I think you will find most things have been posted repeatedly. I try not to look back too far. I needed to review over 100 pages to deal with an issue. It nearly broke me!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: But for exactly the same reasons, the "Flat Earthers" are unable to provide any actual photographic proof of the Earth being a flat disc. But it's not the flat earthers who are lying to the whole world, it's NASA & all these barmy scientists with all their crazy equations who are putting out their false figures & fake pictures. It's up to the flat earthers to prove NASA are liars & are only in it for the money they collect on a daily basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bombadil said: I think you will find most things have been posted repeatedly. I try not to look back too far. I needed to review over 100 pages to deal with an issue. It nearly broke me!!! Its a thankless task it really is, I do not envy you! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, alexa said: It's up to the flat earthers to prove NASA are liars Good luck with that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, zArk said: wouldnt change ratio so how are you going to tell if the ratios are the same or different if the photos are taken from a different aspect (angle) ,apples and oranges zark Also I find it ironic that you are now resorting to photos from NASA which clearly show the earth as a spheroid,which you say is fake but you can't prove it,they're not, but I hope they are for your sake zark because the ramifications for you already tenuous position are direr, all your blustering and repeating the same shit over and over and over and....................................................................over again would be to no avail and quite frankly is to no avail. Edited October 21, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Bombadil said: I needed to review over 100 pages to deal with an issue. you only have another 300 to go to get the real picture 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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