zArk Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, zArk said: Ditrh he do well....One clever video, thanks zArk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 In this video Michael Tellinger cleverly explains everything from the earth, toroid fields, cymatics, the universe too consciousness, he is one clever guy & an excellent dot connector. ENJOY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Pete-Tong Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, alexa said: In this video Michael Tellinger.......he is one clever guy & an excellent dot connector. ENJOY I enjoyed! “How is it possible that we should need money to live on a planet that we were born on? Like many others before me I realised that we are born into pure slavery.” ― Michael Tellinger, UBUNTU Contributionism - A Blueprint For Human Prosperity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, All-Pete-Tong said: I enjoyed! So glad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, zArk said: I feel conned ,I actually watched the video (second one, I won't be watching a third) on the plus side I couldn't stop laughing, just like the lasers across the lake bullshit the water is in a bloody container and that ship floating in the air, priceless. I better stop there ,I don't want the post deleted, by telling you what I really think about the video and the fact you actually think it's relevant to any side of the argument let alone both PS how's the new band going ,I bet RUN FDC welcomed you with open arms Edited June 16, 2022 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, alexa said: Ditrh he do well....One clever video, thanks zArk. If you think that was clever ,I'm sorry but you need watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 13 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Yeah well whatever decision is made, some will be unhappy. It's called trying to be transparent and not look like decisions are made without taking into account the people who actually use the thread. I'd have thought keeping the thread unmoderated, and everyone able to discuss what they want to among fellow members, would be preferable to having the public discussion constantly monitored and edited. I thought it was in the members only section already ,goes to show you how much I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, peter said: goes to show you how much I know Ain't much we know, (couldn't resist this one) only kidding Yeah we've been moved to the bottom of the class again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, peter said: If you think that was clever ,I'm sorry but you need watching So you watched it then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, alexa said: Ain't much we know, (couldn't resist this one) only kidding Yeah we've been moved to the bottom of the class again. It's fine we have a type of banter going ,and personally if you believe in god that's fine by me you certainly aren't exclusive in that respect ,but a little more evidence for a flat earth would be great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, alexa said: So you watched it then ? yes I watched it but to be clear you need watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Pete-Tong Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 hours ago, alexa said: So glad Did you enjoy where I gave you one of the clever man's dots? He acknowledges that we live on a planet - for some reason you didn't respond to that bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 17 minutes ago, All-Pete-Tong said: Did you enjoy where I gave you one of the clever man's dots? He acknowledges that we live on a planet - for some reason you didn't respond to that bit. Never saw your post about this, please direct me to it, never mind folk can't get it right all of the time, it was a three hour long video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Pete-Tong Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, alexa said: Never saw your post about this, please direct me to it, never mind folk can't get it right all of the time, it was a three hour long video. You just quoted the post it was in and it was nothing to do with the video - shows how much attention you actually pay. Your "clever" man says we live on a planet. “How is it possible that we should need money to live on a planet that we were born on? Like many others before me I realised that we are born into pure slavery.” ― Michael Tellinger, UBUNTU Contributionism - A Blueprint For Human Prosperity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Pete-Tong Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I find it quite ironic that the very thing he talks about is something that you and one other poster systematically defend, with no attempt at all to assimilate all information, just believing anything that you can fudge to support your archaic and daft belief. The Earth is a planet and this thread subject is part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Keep it polite and on topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 20 hours ago, alexa said: In this video Michael Tellinger cleverly explains everything from the earth, toroid fields, cymatics, the universe too consciousness, he is one clever guy & an excellent dot connector. ENJOY Poor creator. Those who know the least fabricate their own truths. Everything sounds wonderful and one takes over illusions from the others. Empty words create the same patterns. And if you hear these lies over and over again, you will eventually believe them, because others say the same thing. And for that Humans pay with paper money which is not real. All selling their truth. Which, on the other hand, will have no meaning when the body shuts down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 hours ago, All-Pete-Tong said: You just quoted the post it was in and it was nothing to do with the video - shows how much attention you actually pay. Your "clever" man says we live on a planet. Yep, maybe so, but he does say 'Disc' several times. I supposed you missed this ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Pete-Tong Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, alexa said: Yep, maybe so, but he does say 'Disc' several times. I supposed you missed this ???????? If he said it during his video, yes I would have missed that as I have no interest in his theories. I'm reasonably sure that you never watch any posted videos by anti-flat-earthers. I could show you a series of 5 videos that completely tear your claim to pieces - but you won't watch them will you? That is for any fence sitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, All-Pete-Tong said: I'm reasonably sure that you never watch any posted videos by anti-flat-earthers. I could show you a series of 5 videos that completely tear your claim to pieces - but you won't watch them will you? Yes I will watch them @ times, when I need a good laugh & a reminder of how stupid I was to ever believe in a spinning ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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evanslr Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 6/3/2022 at 12:04 AM, peter said: I've been thinking about this on and off since you raised the question a good while back,and I think there is another factor involved coupled with atmospheric conditions that obviously play a part, and that is it is the way this calculation is applied to this argument. In your calculation which by the way I have no reason to doubt the accuracy, you say there I height drop of 1.2 km, meaning if you take point A as the highest point of the circle ( 90deg to the horizontal plane ) and describe an arc around the circumference for 443 km to point B the total difference in vertical height will be 1.2 km given the circle (earth) has a radius of 6371km. The problem I see with this equation is it is only ever applied in one direction with regards to the FE argument and therefore is a very cleaver slight of hand in my opinion, in reality though we are actually dealing with line of sight and it should be applied in both directions, meaning if you can see an object from a distance in this case of 443 km when you factor in the respective heights of both the observer and object across the described arc of a circle you would have a mid point (horizon) of 221.5km therefore the effective drop would only be 600mts from the line of sight in each direction given all other parameters remain the same. If you couple that with somewhat abnormal atmospheric conditions I don't think that the picture is impossible by any stretch of the imagination Thanks for your input. I do think that atmopsheric conditions could potentially explain some of these long-distance photographs, but others perhaps not. Below is a short article I wrote that used a different equation (a better equation) and calculated some maximum line of sight distances assuming the Earth were a sphere. https://chipstero7.wordpress.com/2021/03/04/a-rebuttal-to-climate-myths/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, evanslr said: Thanks for your input. I do think that atmopsheric conditions could potentially explain some of these long-distance photographs, but others perhaps not. Below is a short article I wrote that used a different equation (a better equation) and calculated some maximum line of sight distances assuming the Earth were a sphere. Thanks I'll take a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) Well I looked, in your original post to me we have have the longest photo ever taken at 443km which is verified from the photographer's own words. I would just like to know where you got all the other facts and figures from, in the heading you quote Eric Dubay and there is a pic of supposedly Mt Everest from over 900 km away therefore this must be the longest photo ever taken so you have in effect contradicted yourself at the very beginning, I'm sorry but as soon as you mention Dubay it has the same effect on me as zarks eloquent scientific acumen, however I will agree with you that the photo taken by Vollmer is interesting but in my opinion explainable when the math is applied correctly in both directions Edited June 16, 2022 by peter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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