The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[zArk]

1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

Lets here your theory then as to what it is, why your bullshit response, why cant you just answer the question & not be a total dick about it?

i have said what i see. No moon.

if you want me to explain how the Sun or Moon are occulting themselves --- i have no answer.

1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

I read about Saros & its not precise enough for the accuracy of the calculations they use now, I dont see how that answers my question atall..

Well, it might not meet the 'odds' requirement but its a fact that is used officially because/////....

 

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The periodicity and recurrence of solar (and lunar) eclipses is governed by the Saros cycle, a period of about 18 years 11 days 8 hour

 

https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEsaros/image/Saros136-large.pdf

 

 

governed ....

[oddsnsods]

1 minute ago, zArk said:

i have said what i see. No moon.

if you want me to explain how the Sun or Moon are occulting themselves --- i have no answer.

Well, it might not meet the 'odds' requirement but its a fact that is used officially because/////....

 

So you have no answer but sure it isnt real.

 

Kind of honest I guess.

 

1 minute ago, zArk said:

 

 

governed ....

 

As in a period cycle or system, not how they pinpoint eclipses. Its impossible to predict eclipses from the Saros cycle alone. You need to do mathematics, based on the helio model yes. im sure would not pan out on the flerth model. LMAO.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[alexa]

3 hours ago, peter said:

well I wouldn't have to ask the same old questions if you took a rather novel approach in this thread and actually answered at least one of them.

 

I have, many of them & so has zArk.

[Origin]

On 5/16/2022 at 8:24 AM, alexa said:

 

 we used to harness free energy world wide, look up Tartaria.

 

Nothing but flat earth dreams and distortion of reality. For many millennia (human idea that time exists) there has not been a highly developed society. No one can harness something that is not understood. There was and is no technology.

[zArk]

1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

So you have no answer but sure it isnt real.

thats a pile of illogical crap.

1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

As in a period cycle or system, not how they pinpoint eclipses. Its impossible to predict eclipses from the Saros cycle alone. You need to do mathematics, based on the helio model yes. im sure would not pan out on the flerth model. LMAO.

make up whatever nonsense you need fella

[zArk]

47 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

I have, many of them & so has zArk.

yup. oh well. dont feed them. 

 

 

 

[oddsnsods]

2 hours ago, zArk said:

i have said what i see. No moon.

if you want me to explain how the Sun or Moon are occulting themselves --- i have no answer.

 

 

2 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

So you have no answer but sure it isnt real.

 

18 minutes ago, zArk said:

thats a pile of illogical crap.

 

What you type yes, all the time.

 

18 minutes ago, zArk said:

make up whatever nonsense you need fella

 

Like I said.. I used to find your delusions amusing a while back, now just a stuck warped record with a krappy needle.

 

Eclipses cant be predicted using your model, you cant do the calculations. a Saros cycle will not predict the exact point or time an eclipse will occur. You need to use maths involving helio measurements.

 

Why you wont & cant explain a lunar eclipse that everyone can easily witness, but instead you deny it..like you deny the solar eclipse. You deny Meteor showers, you deny comets visible in the sky for days, geo stationery sats & star link trains...easily trackable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[oddsnsods]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

I have, many of them & so has zArk.

 

No shame whatsoever troll 4 life.

[alexa]

 

[peter]

7 hours ago, alexa said:

 

I have, many of them & so has zArk.

In your imagination maybe, sorry I didn't know that ignoring inconvenient questions equates to answering them, it must say that in the bible somewhere then.

Ps ,nice video ,another one I won't watch, just like zark you seem to excel at at regurgitating some one else's crap,  it's a lot easier than thinking for yourself.

Edited May 18, 2022 by peter

[DaleP]

How do you explain this?

Wildfire smoek which covers the area larger than Italy?
 

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Sun disappears over the Pole of Cold, in bizarre repeat of last year’s blackout

Almost exactly a year ago - in July 2018  - there was another pitch black morning over three major areas of Yakutia, Eveno-Bytantaisky, Zhigansky and the same Verkhoyansky district. 

Darkness which had a yellow tinge lasted for over three hours and was followed by drop in air temperature.  

The territory impacted by the gloom was larger than Italy.

This time weather experts thought the blackout was caused by smoke from wildfires mixing with heavy rain clouds, and they didn’t register change in temperature. 

https://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/sun-disappears-over-the-pole-of-cold-in-bizarre-repeat-of-last-years-blackout/

 

 

[alexa]

4 hours ago, DaleP said:

Sun disappears over the Pole of Cold, in bizarre repeat of last year’s blackout

Almost exactly a year ago - in July 2018  - there was another pitch black morning over three major areas of Yakutia, Eveno-Bytantaisky, Zhigansky and the same Verkhoyansky district. 

 

This is enough to freak anyone out  No I can't explain this, interesting it happened near the pole tho.

[zArk]

13 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Like I said.. I used to find your delusions amusing a while back, now just a stuck warped record with a krappy needle.

why keep asking the same thing over and over after receiving a reply ?

 

its just trolling 

 

13 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Eclipses cant be predicted using your model

eclipses are predicted using saros cycle 

the moon and sun travel on their paths 

 

its the fake sphere model that requires complex calculations to try and keep it together plus it needs extras like refraction of sun and moon for selenelions. its really pathetic. 

 

there is no moon there during a solar 'eclipse'. deal with it. 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by zArk

[alexa]

7 hours ago, peter said:

nice video ,another one I won't watch,

 

That's a shame cus your missing out on the whole truth.

Such as this Map which the UN uses in it's logo.

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2022 by alexa
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[The Illuminator]

On 5/27/2020 at 9:11 PM, MrA said:

 

Thing is if you managed to put together a huge intel.dossier finally proving once and for all that vaccines are dangerous and you also managed to get a good following of people say 200 thousand all sharing your dossier

 

All that would need to happen to completely fuck up your progress is for you to turn around and say 

 

And also the Earth is flat 

 

Then all of your previous work , no matter how truthful and well put together can be ridiculed and all put in the same file labelled " mental " 

 

And that IMO is exactly how FE is used by the intel agencies 

You're not wrong MrA. The same tactic was used in 911 scam. With September clues.

 

Problem being you being right doesn't mean FE and Sept clues are wrong. Just that they are being used as negative connotations by tptb.

[oddsnsods]

On 5/19/2022 at 1:48 AM, zArk said:

 

eclipses are predicted using saros cycle 

the moon and sun travel on their paths 

Read what I typed twice above.

 

On 5/19/2022 at 1:48 AM, zArk said:

its the fake sphere model that requires complex calculations to try and keep it together plus it needs extras like refraction of sun and moon for selenelions. its really pathetic. 

Real world astronomy requires  a lot of calculations.. flantasy flake world not so much.

 

On 5/19/2022 at 1:48 AM, zArk said:

there is no moon there during a solar 'eclipse'. deal with it.

One extreme to the other..npc body snatched weirdo on the street, to the flakey flerther double think on here..sobering reading.

 

 

 

[oddsnsods]

 

Antarctic is 24 hours sun light December solstice.

 

The sun doesnt make any journey either.

 

https://www.coolantarctica.com/Antarctica fact file/antarctica environment/day-length-antarctica.php

 

 

[zArk]

46 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

One extreme to the other..npc body snatched weirdo on the street, to the flakey flerther double think on here..sobering reading

its ok , i am allowed to disagree with you and the wgs84 model . i am allowed to put forward my evidence and reasons for disagreeing

 

take it or leave it

 

 

[zArk]

59 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

eal world astronomy requires  a lot of calculations.. flantasy flake world not so much

 B.S, the 2017 solar eclipse is recorded as existing from an observer point supposedly facing away from the sun. (flat earth doesnt have the problem)

 

 

total nonsense from the chalkboard scratchers 

 

 

 

 

[endfreemasonscum]

On 5/17/2022 at 10:27 AM, oddsnsods said:

I can't respond to every tidbit,

 

On 5/17/2022 at 10:27 AM, oddsnsods said:

You cant respond thats right.

Odds, you are committed my friend. You are throwing a ton of stuff at me. This isn't my life. I find the topic interesting. But, why can't you explain what you mean by obvious curvature?

 

Are you simply assuming mirage and looming because you believe we are on a sphere? And what of the examples where those theories were disproved?

 

Your windmills? That photo is laughable because we see these on all the "debunking" sites. The problem is that both flat earthers and the mainstream agree that curvature can not be seen from the beach. Have you noticed that all these same debunkers are nasa shills? I find that disconcerting.

 

The most current mainstream information I can find explains that curvature can not be seen until at least where airplanes fly.

Photographing The Curvature

There are thousands of photographs on the internet of people claiming to have photographed the curvature of the Earth. Scientists have dismissed these photographs as fake or misrepresented. In almost every scenario, the curvature is caused by the distortion of the camera lens. If one lifts a camera above the center of the frame, then the right and left edges curve inwards to mimic Earth's curvature.

Where Can You See The Earth's Curvature?

The Earth curves at about 8 inches for every mile squared, but this distance is too minimal for a human being to discern the curvature. Even while on top of Mount Everest, it is impossible to see the curvature. Studies place the threshold to see the curvature at 35,000 feet, but even at this height, one must have at least a 60° angle of vision. While some commercial flights make it to such heights the problem is you also need a field of view that is wide (60 degrees ) and nearly cloud free, and therefore the Earth's curvature is out of reach for many people. The best place to see the curve is in space. Astronomers in the International Space Station can not only see Earth's curvature but also its spherical shape.

https://www.worldatlas.com/can-you-see-the-curvature-of-the-earth-from-atop-mount-everest.html

 

As far as eclipses, I'm not sure. Zark isn't the only one on the internet who has taken these things apart and I am not comfortable with how the sun's light is always depicted and discussed as coming to us in straight lines except when they show us how these eclipses supposedly work.

 

Just my thoughts

 

  

On 5/17/2022 at 5:42 AM, sock muppet said:

Have you ever considered the fact that Gravity or whatever you want to call the sticking force that keeps you stuck to the ground is also the force that causes the Solar system to have a sinusoidal motion, a wave or frequency that causes the whole lot to move up and down with respect to the Galactic plane, and if you have then you would understand that a body in free fall within the Gravitational effect experiences no accelerating force.

We were talking bout how spiraling through space while rotating and being locked in an elliptical orbit can be considered constant velocity. Something is off here for sure.

[Given To Fly]

I've only come across this youtube channel a few nights ago and have been watching it for many hours, it seems to be on 24/7, and is mostly about flat earth.

I must say it is making me think A LOT ...

 

 

[oddsnsods]

40 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said:

 

Odds, you are committed my friend. You are throwing a ton of stuff at me. This isn't my life. I find the topic interesting. But, why can't you explain what you mean by obvious curvature?

 

Are you simply assuming mirage and looming because you believe we are on a sphere? And what of the examples where those theories were disproved?

 

Your windmills? That photo is laughable because we see these on all the "debunking" sites. The problem is that both flat earthers and the mainstream agree that curvature can not be seen from the beach. Have you noticed that all these same debunkers are nasa shills? I find that disconcerting.

 

The most current mainstream information I can find explains that curvature can not be seen until at least where airplanes fly.

Photographing The Curvature

There are thousands of photographs on the internet of people claiming to have photographed the curvature of the Earth. Scientists have dismissed these photographs as fake or misrepresented. In almost every scenario, the curvature is caused by the distortion of the camera lens. If one lifts a camera above the center of the frame, then the right and left edges curve inwards to mimic Earth's curvature.

Where Can You See The Earth's Curvature?

The Earth curves at about 8 inches for every mile squared, but this distance is too minimal for a human being to discern the curvature. Even while on top of Mount Everest, it is impossible to see the curvature. Studies place the threshold to see the curvature at 35,000 feet, but even at this height, one must have at least a 60° angle of vision. While some commercial flights make it to such heights the problem is you also need a field of view that is wide (60 degrees ) and nearly cloud free, and therefore the Earth's curvature is out of reach for many people. The best place to see the curve is in space. Astronomers in the International Space Station can not only see Earth's curvature but also its spherical shape.

https://www.worldatlas.com/can-you-see-the-curvature-of-the-earth-from-atop-mount-everest.html

 

When im talking curvature, we are talking about a sphere of course.. im pointing out how ships drop on the horizon, or the sun. That is curvature.

If you have a drone & elevate from the same position it will come back from over the horizon. You are confusing it with curvature from left to right horizontal perspective. Which the human eye cannot see, as your viewing range is not wide enough (3 miles I believe)

So you would need to go very high to see.

 

When you see windmills at different heights sinking over the horizon.. that is obvious curvature.

Ive pasted the images twice to you now to point this out.

You can check videos of windfarms also, will show you this obvious Flerthers avoid or ignore. You dont need to cherry pick what time of day to see this either, which as I explained to you flerthers always do.

Like Papa Flurth pointing out the selenelion refraction as some kind of proof of his madness. AGAIN its the sun LIGHT passing through the atmosphere bending light, creating anomalies they try & capitalise on. When their miniature sun would not create these effects anyway. But they will never admit this.

 

 

Of course NASAtards will be all over flerth, as flerthers dont believe anything NASA claim & NASAtards are science nerds. Some truthers are conspiracy sheeple.

 

Im about the truth not any clique coming from mostly religious fundis & a few occultist stirring the pot.

 

Why is it Flerther mostly Christian fundis pushing Jewish Masonic occult ideals all the time also? Because they are one in the same.

Edited May 19, 2022 by oddsnsods

[sock muppet]

42 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said:

We were talking bout how spiraling through space while rotating and being locked in an elliptical orbit can be considered constant velocity. Something is off here for sure.

 

Constant velocity with respect to what exactly, the solar system to itself, the solar system itself is warping and bending the Time Space around it, so any changes in velocity will not be felt as an acceleration or deceleration G force, have you actually measured the rate of these things changing, i have not measured these things changing because the only thing i have to measure with is the changing of the seasons and a calendar with dates on it, experiments have shown that clocks tick at different rates due to the velocity relative to some thing where it started to change and/or due to distance from a massive body like the Earth, if you allow these things to be true it produces a much clearer picture of just how baffling it all is, for me i have no problem imagining the solar system moving in a particular direction with all the planets and everything else associated with it doing also because the whole thing is trapped within the time space warp that itself is also a part of a much bigger time space warp and on and on it goes, and for the last time THE EARTH IS HOLLOW,

[alexa]

 

 

On 5/19/2022 at 9:42 AM, zArk said:

total nonsense from the chalkboard scratchers 

 

 

 

 

 

Chalkboard scratchers  I luv it 

[sock muppet]

1 hour ago, endfreemasonscum said:

We were talking bout how spiraling through space

 

But if you through a frizzbee or a plate forward and up while rotating it you would see the thing go forward and up and then down while still rotating, but the only way you could tell of the presence of a spiral would be to plot out the trajectory relative from your observation and then you would be able to trace out a spiraling effect, which is something you can not do within the system you are a part of because you are relative to it, i think you have the idea that the Sun, Moon, Planets and everything else is somehow being dangled in some way by an invisible bit of string.