The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[Messenger]

2 minutes ago, zArk said:

you are not knowledgeable of flat earth reasons and explanations

 

 

Hahah, ok. That's all you got?! Really!?

 

Why don't you just say, it's above my head and I'm not that smart to understand the reason why the Earth is a sphere... ? At least if you admitted that you didn't understand you would be more honorable than continuing to deny it.

 

So you're either afraid, or you're an agent. Which is it?

[zArk]

1 hour ago, Messenger said:

Why don't you just say, it's above my head

 

so the pyramids prove the earth is a sphere? bizarre

 

if you are gonna put counter-arguments and points into a thread at least have the courtesy to learn the other sides arguments

 

the FE'ers would probably argue that Polaris proves the earth is stationary as it is observable by everyone that the stars revolve around the sky with Polaris being the centre point

 

 

Edited June 17, 2020 by zArk

[Messenger]

16 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

so the pyramids prove the earth is a sphere? bizarre

 

if you are gonna put counter-arguments and points into a thread at least have the courtesy to learn the other sides arguments

 

the FE'ers would probably argue that Polaris proves the earth is stationary as it is observable by everyone that the stars revolve around the sky with Polaris being the centre point

 

 

I never said that, but it's quite a strong piece of evidence when the largest pyramids placement happen to line up with the Orion constellation that is also being referenced by black magicians in Hollywood and within the US government so often.

 

Speaking of counter arguments, it is the flat Earth camp who are arguing, most of humanity have known for centuries that the Earth is a sphere, it is only in recent years since the aerospace industry announced that they had anti gravity tech that the flat Earth psyop kicked into overdrive, along with many other psyops, "shootings", "bombings", etc all of which seem to be used to hide the secret space program.

[zArk]

6 minutes ago, Messenger said:

I never said that, but it's quite a strong piece of evidence when the largest pyramids placement happen to line up with the Orion constellation that is also being referenced by black magicians in Hollywood and within the US government so often.

 

no-1 is disputing the stars / the rotation / the 'ages'

the pyramids / henges  are time period markers

 

11 minutes ago, Messenger said:

it is the flat Earth camp who are arguing, most of humanity have known for centuries that the Earth is a sphere

 

up until 1969 mind control tv images there was a big split. this is how the new world is designed in opposition to the old world. pisces into aquarius.

going to the moon was part of the cults method to split society (as was done with monotheism and polytheism [taurus to aries] and as was done with the creation of Christianity[aries to pisces])

 

antigravity tech --- gravity???? oh come on, you cant be serious about the gravity myth?

[Forsaken Bankzy]

23 hours ago, Messenger said:

But bflat and the others won't bother to answer simple questions because they lack the brain capacity to do so, or they lack the moral compass to not take orders from their masonic boss who pay them to troll the internet with flat Earth crap so that people don't learn about the stuff that John Lear speaks about, or Boyd Bushman, or Jan Harzan, or Ben Rich, or Sergeant Major Bob Dean, or Thomas Townsend Brown, or the many others. They really don't want people waking up to the SSP and to things like "Nightmare Hall" at Dulce, because then the entire system is shown as the farce it is and how the US government sold out humanity decades ago so that the CFR and CIA could brainwash humanity with their Hollywood in HD.

So the flat earth conspiracy is masonic move to prevent the people from realising the truth of John Lear's work? That is a ludacris claim. More people believe and are exposed to the idea of Aliens from outer space than people exposed to the flat earth conspiracy. I can't see no reasoning behind your claim. To believe in aliens and alien UFO's requires the same type of faith to believe in any religion and my guess would be that you strongly believe in aliens with the likelihood that their intellect is far superior to humans. 

Btw, I don't deny that the flat earth movement is not somewhat controlled., because I believe they have always given us pinch of truth for whatever reasons, and this is one of them. 

Edited June 17, 2020 by Forsaken Bankzy

[Messenger]

14 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

no-1 is disputing the stars / the rotation / the 'ages'

the pyramids / henges  are time period markers

 

 

up until 1969 mind control tv images there was a big split. this is how the new world is designed in opposition to the old world. pisces into aquarius.

going to the moon was part of the cults method to split society (as was done with monotheism and polytheism [taurus to aries] and as was done with the creation of Christianity[aries to pisces])

 

antigravity tech --- gravity???? oh come on, you cant be serious about the gravity myth?

Gravity a myth? You're kidding right? 

Have you never gone skydiving? I have. I've jumped out of an airplane at 10,000 feet. Have you? Obviously not if you think gravity is a "myth".

 

There was a divide as to whether the Eaeth was flat up until the 1900's because humanity lacked the technology to prove it. Once we developed the technology people KNEW that the Earth was a sphere because they could literally fly around the globe. How else do you think the Earth being referenced a s "globe" came to be known. "Around the the globe".

 

Then when the "deep state" or Illuminati, globalists whatever, when they realized that the entire population shouldn't know about our space exploration because it could be dangerous for them.

 

Where do you think trillions of missing dollars is spent if not on the deep underground military bases (D.U.M.B.s)? On the secret space program!

 

You are aware that SR71 was built in the 1960's? $34 million for one. Now imagine what the US government does with the trillions of dollars that went missing just before 9-11. TRILLIONS.

 

Now fast forward to today, what kind of aircraft do you think they have given the fact that almost every person has a cell phone. I can call Australia right now and talk to a friend with crystal clear reception. Do you really think that's possible if the Earth were flat and there were no satellites up there? Hahaha

 

Come on, you're just messing with me, right?

 

Have you ever done ANY research on the work of Thomas Townsend Brown?

 

You want to jump out of an aircraft with me? I'll pay for your tandem jump. Let's meet up and hit up a drop zone. What do you say?

 

 

[Messenger]

7 minutes ago, Forsaken Bankzy said:

So the flat earth conspiracy is masonic move to prevent the people from realising the truth of John Lear's work? That is a ludacris claim. More people believe and are exposed to the idea of Aliens from outer space than people exposed to the flat earth conspiracy. I can't see no reasoning behind your claim. To believe in aliens and alien UFO's requires the same type of faith to believe in any religion and my guess would be that you strongly believe in aliens with the likelihood that their intellect is far superior to humans. 

Btw, I don't deny that the flat earth movement is not somewhat controlled., because I believe they have always given us pinch of truth for whatever reasons, and this is one of them. 

No that's not what I said, you guys and girls are twisting my words. The flat Earth movement in my belief is either a movement by complete idiots who lack the most basic intelligence skills to search and realize that the Earth is in fact a sphere with topography because we have actual photographs of it from satellites showing curvature.

 

John Lear is ONE person of MANY who have spoken about related topics.

 

Or the flat Earth movement is a psyop by deep state dickheads in the US government or within other governments, perhaps Russia or China, collaborating with the aerospace industry insiders at the highest level who don't want humanity knowing about their space exploration because humans are the labor resource required to fund such a program.

 

You can't see no reasoning behind my claim? That doesn't not make no sense.  

 

There are however some insiders who have spoke about aliens and saucer shaped craft, you simply refuse to acknowledge it.

 

And yes it appears as though there are aliens out there in the universe who possess intellect far beyond humans if they were able to come here and disarm nuclear weapons a military bases.

 

Alexa asked for photographs and I searched briefly and found two and posted them. There are many more on the internet although they are difficult to find.

[Messenger]

13 minutes ago, Messenger said:

Gravity a myth? You're kidding right? 

Have you never gone skydiving? I have. I've jumped out of an airplane at 10,000 feet. Have you? Obviously not if you think gravity is a "myth".

 

There was a divide as to whether the Eaeth was flat up until the 1900's because humanity lacked the technology to prove it. Once we developed the technology people KNEW that the Earth was a sphere because they could literally fly around the globe. How else do you think the Earth being referenced a s "globe" came to be known. "Around the the globe".

 

Then when the "deep state" or Illuminati, globalists whatever, when they realized that the entire population shouldn't know about our space exploration because it could be dangerous for them is when they started to heavily promote flat Earth, around 2010 or so.

 

Where do you think trillions of missing dollars is spent if not on the deep underground military bases (D.U.M.B.s)? On the secret space program!

 

You are aware that SR71 was built in the 1960's? $34 million for one. Now imagine what the US government does with the trillions of dollars that went missing just before 9-11. TRILLIONS.

 

Now fast forward to today, what kind of aircraft do you think they have given the fact that almost every person has a cell phone. I can call Australia right now and talk to a friend with crystal clear reception. Do you really think that's possible if the Earth were flat and there were no satellites up there? Hahaha

 

Come on, you're just messing with me, right?

 

Have you ever done ANY research on the work of Thomas Townsend Brown?

 

You want to jump out of an aircraft with me? I'll pay for your tandem jump. Let's meet up and hit up a drop zone. What do you say?

 

 

Fixed the bold part since the forum would not allow me to edit it.

[Messenger]

Captain Robert Salas (USAF Retired) testifies to nuclear missiles being disarmed at the Malmstrom Air Force base in Montana in 1967.

 

https://www.malmstrom.af.mil/

 

 

[alexa]

3 hours ago, theo102 said:

Snopes is strangely silent on the matter of the attack on the USS Liberty.

 

The men on the USS liberty who survived were threatened with their families or their own lives if they spoke the truth about what happened that day.

Yes it was Israel who tried to sink the USS Liberty and after 50 odd years these survivors are talking.

Here @ Trunews.com they have made a film about this which is about to be released later this year.

Here Rick Wiles and his colleges discuss the USS Liberty. 

 

REMEMBER THE USS LIBERTY! SNEAK PEAK OF UPCOMING TRUNEWS FILM ABOUT ISRAEL’S ATTACK ON USS LIBERTY IN 1967

https://www.trunews.com/stream/remember-the-uss-liberty-sneak-peak-of-upcoming-trunews-film-about-israel-s-attack-on-uss-liberty-in-1967

 

Ye it really stinks what Israel did 

[alexa]

2 hours ago, Messenger said:

I know, I'm coming off as a total jerk tonight, but I'm tired of the lies and humans acting like fools. When people who genuinely care are trying to help by informing people of something, and people laugh at them, then those people are doing a disservice to themselves and to everyone else.

This is exactly how the FE's feel, spot on messenger.

[alexa]

41 minutes ago, Messenger said:

There are however some insiders who have spoke about aliens and saucer shaped craft, you simply refuse to acknowledge it.

 

Yes there are Aliens and shaped crafts but they are not what you think, they are Demonic entities who reside all around us wanting to take over our minds & bodies.

 

Zachariah 5

Quote

 

1Again I lifted up my eyes and saw before me a flying scroll.

2“What do you see?” asked the angel.

“I see a flying scroll,” I replied, “twenty cubits long and ten cubits wide.a”

3Then he told me, “This is the curse that is going out over the face of all the land, for according to one side of the scroll, every thief will be removed; and according to the other side, every perjurer will be removed. 4I will send it out, declares the LORD of Hosts, and it will enter the house of the thief and the house of him who swears falsely by My name. It will remain inside his house and destroy it, down to its timbers and stones.”

 

 

[zArk]

@Messenger

 

density fella, thats why things fall to the ground. 

try it with any object. 

 

atoms, electrons, protons neutrons and electricity.. the end

 

 

[serpentine]

On 5/31/2020 at 7:06 AM, serpentine said:

 

 

 

Only two weeks have passed since this was posted.

 

Is everyone suffering from short term memory loss due to the lockdown stress?

 

Think very hard about what the results of these experiments mean.

 

 

 

 

[alexa]

12 hours ago, zArk said:

 

thats the website the reverse naysayers run to

 

 

 

The only fact checker I run to is the Bible 

[zArk]

15 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

 

Only two weeks have passed since this was posted.

 

Is everyone suffering from short term memory loss due to the lockdown stress?

 

Think very hard about what the results of these experiments mean.

 

 

 

 

shows the density of molecules next to an object determines if the object moves

 

zero density = objects fall

 

the law of density is proven

 

fill the tube with tungstem hexafluoride, the feather floats 

 

fill the tube with sand both objects do not fall because the density of the medium is sufficient 

 

 

[theo102]

3 hours ago, alexa said:

Yes it was Israel who tried to sink the USS Liberty and after 50 odd years these survivors are talking.

 

The criminals that ordered the attack on the USS Liberty use the name of Israel as a shield. The true people of Israel lost their identity.

 

[theo102]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

The only fact checker I run to is the Bible 

 

That must be inconvenient when you've got a bus to catch.

 

[serpentine]

3 hours ago, zArk said:

shows the density of molecules next to an object determines if the object moves

 

zero density = objects fall

 

the law of density is proven

 

fill the tube with tungstem hexafluoride, the feather floats 

 

fill the tube with sand both objects do not fall because the density of the medium is sufficient 

 

 

 

It's obvious where you dodged the syllabus.....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH86xUrGmWg

 

 

But that clip is also for those responsible for harming the education system in this country..

Edited June 17, 2020 by serpentine

[bflat]

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

And if you stand at the face of those guide stones there is a hole in the center where you can see the northern star at all times of the day and night...

This proves that we are not doing anything close to this:

 

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

Do you really think that these gigantic pyramids who happen to be on the same latitude lining up precisely with the Orion constellation is a coincidence?

So does this.

 

Welcome to flat earth my friend!

[zArk]

51 minutes ago, serpentine said:

It's obvious where you dodged the syllabus.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH86xUrGmWg

But that clip is also for those responsible for harming the education system in this country..

 

what are you going on about?

just spit it out and say it. stop hiding behind videos and unwritten conclusions of the videos

 

[Forsaken Bankzy]

6 hours ago, Messenger said:

No that's not what I said, you guys and girls are twisting my words. The flat Earth movement in my belief is either a movement by complete idiots who lack the most basic intelligence skills to search and realize that the Earth is in fact a sphere with topography because we have actual photographs of it from satellites showing curvature.

Actually you was quite clear on it, how else do you interpret what you said without 'twisting it'? But now you have cleared up that the movement was created by a bunch of uneducated people who can't deal with the simplicity of pseudoscience.  

 

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

There are however some insiders who have spoke about aliens and saucer shaped craft, you simply refuse to acknowledge it.

No, i've acknowledge it, i've believed it, and now I don't. 

 

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

And yes it appears as though there are aliens out there in the universe who possess intellect far beyond humans if they were able to come here and disarm nuclear weapons a military bases.

I remember years ago when i believed aliens had infiltrated US military bases too. Why was my belief in aliens and distant planets so strong at one point? because I loved science fiction and still do. 

 

7 hours ago, Messenger said:

Then when the "deep state" or Illuminati, globalists whatever, when they realized that the entire population shouldn't know about our space exploration because it could be dangerous for them is when they started to heavily promote flat Earth, around 2010 or so.

You are wrong here. You are speaking for the deep state about their agenda. When youtube removes all flat earth videos, that is not promoting flat earth is it. Flat earth has been censored in the same manner as false flag terrorist attacks. 

 

[rideforever]

Astral Realm and Polytheism

 

Just read some interesting stuff.  It seems that in this universe there is the Unconscious Realm which is very basic data, then there is the Subconscious or Astral Realm where there is some structure and strange half awake beings, and there is the Conscious Realm where the the light of consciousness is powerful enough for people to be properly awake.

 

The interesting thing is that in the Astral Realm because there is not enough consciousness power ... there are many gods, many powers, many dark hierarchies.  And anyone wishing Polytheism is really looking to live in the darkness.

Because once the light is on, meaning you are Conscious - or you are channelling the mind of "God" - there is only 1 truth and 1 God.

 

So those fashionable people who wish to be polytheistic are really those who are going down into the darkness where the dark creatures live.

 

[bflat]

12 hours ago, Messenger said:

Speaking of counter arguments, it is the flat Earth camp who are arguing, most of humanity have known for centuries that the Earth is a sphere

Actually, the flat earthers are the ones out there conducting actual experiments, something the freemasons in our schools, media and places of worship will NEVER do... never-ever! I, on the other hand, have practically been begging y'all to do this for yourselves and to post your evidence on this thread for all to see.

 

The fact that most of humanity has been duped for centuries is sad, but not relevant to the true shape of our stationary plane.

 

Parallax (Samuel Birley Rowbotham) wrote over a century ago:

A boat, with a flag-staff, the top of the flag 5 feet above the surface of the water, was directed to sail from a place called "Welche's Dam" (a well-known ferry passage), to another called "Welney Bridge." These two points are six statute miles apart. The author, with a good telescope, went into the water; and with the eye about 8 inches above the surface, observed the receding boat during the whole period required to sail to Welney Bridge. The flag and the boat were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance! There could be no mistake as to the distance passed over, as the man in charge of the boat had instructions to lift one of his oars to the top of the arch the moment he reached the bridge. The experiment commenced about three o'clock in the afternoon of a summer's day, and the sun was shining brightly and nearly behind or against the boat during the whole of its passage. Every necessary condition had been fulfilled, and the result was to the last degree definite and satisfactory. The conclusion was unavoidable that the surface of the water for a length of six miles did not to any appreciable extent decline or curvate downwards from the line of sight. But if the earth is a globe, the surface of the six miles length of water would have been 6 feet higher in the centre than at the two extremities, as shown in diagram fig. 2; but as the telescope was only 8 inches above the

FIG. 2.

 

[bflat]

water, the highest point of the surface would have been at one mile from the place of observation; and below this point the surface of the water at the end of the remaining five miles would have been 16 feet.

Let A B represent the arc of water 6 miles long, and A C the line of sight. The point of contact with the arc would be at T, a distance of one mile from the observer at A. From T to the bridge at B would be 5 miles, and the curvature from T to B would be 16 feet 8 inches. The top of the flag on the boat (which was 5 feet high) would have been 11 feet 8 inches below the horizon T, and altogether out of sight. Such a condition was not observed; but the following diagram, fig. 3, exhibits the true state of the case--A, B, the line of sight, equi-distant.

FIG. 3.

from or parallel with the surface of the water throughout the whole distance of 6 milts: From which it is concluded that the surface of standing water is not convex, but horizontal.