DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, zArk said: heres the daily sunrise times for alamogordo in Nov 2011, Dec 2011 and Dec 2012 they are all consistently increasing there is no 'refraction' calculation showing for Dec 10th 2011 - selenelion day Interesting. Not my area of expertise. I'll defer to someone with more knowledge on the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, DarianF said: Interesting. Not my area of expertise. I'll defer to someone with more knowledge on the issue. well, i also find it interesting the moonset data is a little more tricky but comparing fullmoon data for alamogordo at similar morning times there is no glaring time jump 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, DarianF said: Sydney-Santiago Flight Route https://flatearth.ws/sydney-santiago Not bona fide information. That site is a joke. Our nasa shill copy/pastes from it like it's his script and now you've been sucked in. Just look at their "debunks" for nasa. Obvious shill site... nothing more... they discredit themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: Not bona fide information. That site is a joke. Our nasa shill copy/pastes from it like it's his script and now you've been sucked in. Just look at their "debunks" for nasa. Obvious shill site... nothing more... they discredit themselves. In case you missed these: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, zArk said: https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/refraction.html yes which then raises the question as every sunrise time changes daily with a consistent rate , in december 2011 alamogordo it was roughly 1 min daily , does this mean every sunrise is refracted? n.b if so that then cancels out refraction as a thing, if every day it occurs.. then its just sunrise However i am told refraction causes the sunrise earlier ... this is not seen in the data and then the moon, with exactly the same issue. consistent setting progressively changing Ok, this is pretty interesting. And I think there is another question. Refraction seems to rely mainly on temperature variations. If that is so, then during these eclipses, how can the sun and moon be equally refracted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, endfreemasonscum said: Ok, this is pretty interesting. And I think there is another question. Refraction seems to rely mainly on temperature variations. If that is so, then during these eclipses, how can the sun and moon be equally refracted? "In practice, the lunar eclipse conditions are modified due to the refraction of the Sun's rays by the Earth's atmosphere. This refraction (of 35 minutes of arc) allows some light to penetrate the cone of the geometric umbra. So even during total lunar eclipse, the lunar disk is not completely dark. This grazing light is more absorbed by the Earth's atmosphere in the blue and yellow portions of the spectrum, giving a particular reddish light during total lunar eclipse." https://sci.esa.int/web/observational-astronomy/-/38834-overview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, peter said: There was a movie that had a line show me the money This one has show me the harness For years they have learned how to hide harnesses. But you missed the deeper issue. That women was not in anything close to zero gravity. Whether they get caught with harness issues, green screen fails, or with air bubbles on space walks... it really doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said: For years they have learned how to hide harnesses. But you missed the deeper issue. That women was not in anything close to zero gravity. Whether they get caught with harness issues, green screen fails, or with air bubbles on space walks... it really doesn't matter. Like all your claims, these types of things always have an explanation. Example: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-nasa-ball-idUSL2N2NT1T8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, DarianF said: Like all your claims, these types of things always have an explanation. Example: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-nasa-ball-idUSL2N2NT1T8 Try to follow along. I simply showed that this women was not close to zero gravity... And they cut the feed deliberately. Total clown world. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, endfreemasonscum said: Try to follow along. I simply showed that this women was not close to zero gravity... And they cut the feed deliberately. Total clown world. No, you showed a GIF. Where is the original video? It's a simple request. Surely you analysed the original before posting a random GIF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 5/17/2020 at 4:49 AM, bflat said: The “Nature of Reality” forum was recently hosting a thread where heated discussion was taking place regarding our plane, “a flat, nonrotating Earth” as nasa themselves reference multiple times in multiple documents. Freemason trolls were going crazy over their delusion being exposed, which in itself was fun to watch. The thread was several pages long, I believe over 40, was posted to multiple times each day, and was being viewed 100s of times each day. So, I’ll lay out the basics for discussion, the freemason trolls will come on here with nearly every logical fallacy known to man; they will even openly lie. For anyone looking for truth, try not to let this distract you from these few, simple, points… and enjoy! T 1) The horizon! I simply cannot stress enough how important it is to understand that with the technology available today for around $500, you can test for yourself whether the horizon is a physical barrier as it MUST BE in the current heliocentric delusion put forth by Jesuit freemasons and accepted today by “modern astronomy,” or if it is simply what any artist knows as a vanishing point/line based on perspective. Here are some examples of what you will find: I am not sure of the cost of the above setup, but it is technology like this that is advancing rapidly and has been destroying the globe lie all over the world. Youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. cannot take these videos down and ban the account owners fast enough. Our ability to use infrared, allowing us to cut through the atmosphere and the ability max out the contrast allows us to see farther than ever before. FTR, the above horizon is around 100 miles or more beyond where it would be if the earth were a globe, 25,000 miles in circumference. The above video speaks for itself. Watch it at least until the father shoots a laser directly into his son’s camera lens from 13.7 miles away! And this is an old one of usaf major Brian Shul flying around in his fighter jet and telling us quite bluntly of seeing Canada from New Mexico! The horizon also always rises to the eye level of the observer and remains perfectly flat, 360 degrees. From the beach: To the highest rides in hot air balloons: If they earth is a ball like the freemasons claim, as we move higher we would need to look down to see the horizon, but this never happens. Since none of us have ever seen this ourselves, check this open sourced 3d model of what we should see from a hot air balloon, yet never do: The truth remains and has been staring us in the for our entire lives. 2) The physics governing water is extremely clear! Water finds its level. Spirit levels work on this very principle and have guided us in the building of incredible structures for centuries. http://fememes.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/8-650x675.jpg Water does not stick to the outside of a ball; water fills its container and lies perfectly flat on top: I know, I know… muh grabity, duh. Well: 3) Physical laws regarding how gas and why gas moves! Trolls from freemasonry pretend that Newton’s second law only relates to temperature. They are wrong. It is correct to say that energy moves from "more concentrated" to "less concentrated." In other words: Energy flows from a higher pressure to a lower pressure (expansion). https://www.ftexploring.com/energy/2nd_Law.html The point? We are told that the greatest vacuum known to us is that of the "infinite vacuum of space." In fact, Interstellar/Deep Space = ~10^-17 Torr. To put that in perspective, nasa’s vacuum chamber with her two feet thick metal wall that is enclosed by six to eight feet thick cement walls, can only achieve 10^-6. And right next to this infinite vacuum sits our pressurized system. It is actually inside this infinite vacuum, lol. I know, I know… muh grabity. Hint: it is ridiculous to assume that gravity would stand a chance against this vacuum. I mean even if Newton was right, this is where gravity would be the weakest. It is the point that nasa refuses to even define where the earth’s gravity stops and “infinite vacuum space” begins. Hell, look how easy it for a basic shop vac to overcome “gravity,” the freemason’s imaginary friend: 4) Airlines use this map or one quite similar to navigate from: and never use anything like this to navigate from: EMERGENCY LANDINGS PROVE THIS BEYOND DOUBT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVP8-mcpook 5) Look at how they explain flight dynamics to pilots and what nasa explains in several of THEIR OWN DOCUMENTS! We assume that . . . •There is a flat Earth. (The Earth’s curvature is zero.) •There is anon-rotating Earth. (No Coriolis accelerations and such are present.) http://www.aerostudents.com/courses/flight-dynamics/flightDynamicsFullVersion.pdf American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics; General Equations of Motion for a Damaged Asymmetric Aircraft (Page 2, Section II) ... “In this paper, the rigid body equations of motion over a flat non-rotating earth are developed…” https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20070030307.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum 104330; Predicted Performance of a Thrust-Enhanced SR-71 Aircraft with an External Payload (Page 8 - Digital Performance Simulation Description) "The DPS equations of motion use four assumptions ... a nonrotating Earth." https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88507main_H-2179.pdf NASA Technical Note: A Method for Reducing The Sensitivity of Optimal Nonlinear Systems to Parameter Uncertainty (Page 12 Problem Statement) ... "(2) A flat, nonrotating Earth" https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19710018599.pdf NASA Technical Note; Calculation of Wind Compensation for Launching of Unguided Rockets (Page 8 Trajectory Simulation, 2nd Paragraph) ..."this simulation assumes ... the missile position in space is computed relative to a flat nonrotating Earth" https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040008097.pdf NASA Technical Paper 2768; User's Manual for LINEAR, a FORTRAN Program to Derive Linear Aircraft Models (Page 12, Program Overview) ... “Within the program, the nonlinear equations of motion include 12 states representing a rigid aircraft flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat nonrotating Earth” https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88072main_H-1259.pdf NASA Technical Paper 2835; "User's Manual for LINEAR, a FORTRAN Program to Derive Linear Aircraft Models" (Page 1, Summary) AND (Page 126 , Report Documentation Page, Section 16) "The nonlinear equations of motion used are six-degree-of-freedom equations with stationary atmosphere and flat, nonrotating earth assumptions." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19890007066.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum; Determination of Angles of Attack and Sideslip from Radar Data and a Roll Stabilized Platform (Page 2, Section 16.) “The method is limited, however, to application where a flat, nonrotating earth may be assumed.” NASA Contractor Report 186019; An Aircraft Model for the AIAA Controls Design Challenge (Page 11, Equation of Motion and Atmospheric Model) ... “The nonlinear equations of motion used in this model are general six-degree-of-freedom equations representing the flight dynamics of a rigid aircraft flying in a stationary atmosphere over a flat nonrotating Earth.” https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88248main_H-1777.pdf NASA Contractor Report 3073; Investigation of Aircraft Landing in Variable Wind Fields (Page 6, Chapter II - Aircraft Landing Model) ... "The Aircraft trajectory model employed in this study was derived based on the following assumptions: a) The Earth is flat and non-rotating. " https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790005472.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum 81238; A Mathematical Model of the CH-53 Helicopter (Page 17, Equations of Motion) .. "The helicopter equations of motion are given in body axes with respect to a flat, nonrotating Earth." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810003557.pdf Engineering Experiment Station, Georgia Institute of Technology, Prepared for NASA; Atmospheric Oscillations (Page 10) ... "A model frequently used is that of a flat, nonrotating earth." ... (next paragraph) .. "The most one can profitably simplify the problem is to consider an isothermal atmosphere, plane level surface, and a nonrotating Earth." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19650015408.pdf NASA Tecnical Paper 2002-210718; Stability and Control Estimation Flight Test Results for the SR-71 Aircraft With Externally Mounted Experiments (Pages 10-11 Equations of Motion) ... "These equations assume a rigid vehicle and a flat, nonrotating Earth." https://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/pdf/88733main_H-2465.pdf NASA Technical Memorandum 100996; Flight Testing a VSTOL Aircraft to Identify a Full-Envelope Aerodynamic Model (Pages 4-5, State Estimation) ... “For aircraft problems, the state and measurement models together represent the kinematics of a rigid body for describing motion over a flat, nonrotating Earth…” https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19880014378.pdf NASA Ames Research Center; Singular Arc Time-Optimal Climb Trajectory of Aircraft in a Two-Dimensional Wind Field (Page 2, Section II. Singular Arc Optimal Control) ... “In our minimum time-to-climb problem, the aircraft is modeled as a point mass and the flight trajectory is strictly confined in a vertical plane on a non-rotating, flat Earth." https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20060053337.pdf OK, that’s it for now, I could literally go on for days, but let’s start with these five simple points. And folks, at least try to keep the trolling to minimum, focus on the five points and have some fun exploring our physical reality. https://www.astro.princeton.edu/~dns/teachersguide/MeasECAct.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, DarianF said: In summary, it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of evidence. I'd luv to see some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 @endfreemasonscum Just watching your GIF again. Since you can't provide the original video and context, let's go by your shitty GIF for arguments sake... 1. She most likely pulls on something below the bottom frame of view, which would be attached to the floor. In zero gravity, a slight pull on a fixed object would jerk you towards the floor like that, giving the appearance of falling. Since you only post un-referenced shite, that's a logical possible explanation. 2. NASA cut the feed suddenly? You didn't show the original, so that's an unverified claim. But let's say you are right and the feed ended - mmmmmm what could be a logical sequence of events after someone is packing a microphone away after an interview? Oh that's right, the interview is over, so let's cut the feed. That's just completely normal. I have to ask, do you actually apply any kind of thought or analysis to this bullshit you post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, alexa said: I'd luv to see some. I don't think you're capable of processing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, DarianF said: I don't think you're capable of processing it. You mean you don't have any..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, DarianF said: Like I said I enjoy it, so keep posting. And me So dooo keep em coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, alexa said: And me So dooo keep em coming. At least we are all having fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, alexa said: You mean you don't have any..... Oh you mean all the evidence that debunks all the conspiracy turds? Oh there is plenty of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 What a crock of........ Look up tonight! The Northern Lights could be visible as far south as EDINBURGH following a giant 'cannibal' solar eruption that is barrelling towards us at 1.8 MILLION miles/hour The Met Office's Space Weather arm said solar activity had been 'at high levels over the past 24 hours', with 17 solar eruptions blasting from a single sunspot and two heading for Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, alexa said: What a crock of........ Look up tonight! The Northern Lights could be visible as far south as EDINBURGH following a giant 'cannibal' solar eruption that is barrelling towards us at 1.8 MILLION miles/hour The Met Office's Space Weather arm said solar activity had been 'at high levels over the past 24 hours', with 17 solar eruptions blasting from a single sunspot and two heading for Earth. Read this book. You may find it educational... https://www.amazon.com.au/Aurora-Search-Northern-Melanie-Windridge/dp/0008156115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarianF Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 @alexa Even David Icke acknowledges solar flares (time coded): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endfreemasonscum Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, DarianF said: Like all your claims, these types of things always have an explanation. Example: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-nasa-ball-idUSL2N2NT1T8 Wowie! I am shocked you posted that. Did you watch the video? Did you watch it to the point the ball falls and the lady bad actor starts flailing her arms to try and tell them to stop reaching? Great find! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, endfreemasonscum said: Try to follow along. I simply showed that this women was not close to zero gravity... how do you personally know that this woman was not close to zero gravity and if she wasn't how close was she, you make these generalized statements, lets be specific. Then you throw around the term green screen, oh their good at hiding harnesses etc etc to bolster your view ,but do you personally know how that particular video was made, because I certainly don't , to me your just another parrot ,did you look a bflat's pictures I put up for you,I bet not ( oh I'm on the fence about FE I just want some information,sound familiar? god how many times have I heard that as an opening post). Now for your other little gem ( try to follow along),you condescending prick,if you think I'm an idiot at least show some balls and say it Edited March 31, 2022 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexa Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 10 hours ago, endfreemasonscum said: Did you watch the video? Did you watch it to the point the ball falls and the lady bad actor starts flailing her arms to try and tell them to stop reaching? What video was this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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