The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

For the longest time reports describing the the physical elements inside a ufo by people claiming to have been onboard have been studied in an effort to understand the propulsion system. Travis Walton was especially helpful in this respect.

 

From all the possible reactor types imagined I believe the ion reactor driven by spinning cone and ring magnetic configuration makes the most sense to me. Would explain reports of a humming sound nicely too.

 

 

Now if these craft are indeed more than just holographic projections and these ion drives create a type of vortex around them that insulates the occupants from radical high "g" transitions in flight besides altering the properties of the matter they travel through well, this type of propulsion system need ions which are not to be found in a vacuum model outer space. 

 

Edited June 8, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

This from a ufo propulsion researcher:

 

" The proponents of atmospheric electricity and electrostatic/corona motors will be happy to know the ufo operates under the rules of the physics involved with the voltage gradient between the earth and the ~300,000 volts of positive charge  some 10 ~ 20 miles up or so.

 

The main driver of this system is a large and specially designed electrostatic motor.

 

These craft cannot travel in deep space, at least not in this version, they require ions, lots of ions."

 

 

If this were the case a person could easily dismiss an alien invasion hoax simply because they are saiid to come from outer space. If they bought the ball earth narrative they are not real aliens

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[chocomel]

7 hours ago, theo102 said:

The moon looks bigger at perigee, but that only happens roughly once a month. When you get a full moon at perigee it's called a supermoon.

 

According the the flat earth model the moon is relatively close to the surface of the earth, so it should appear bigger and smaller every night as the distance between it and an observer changes.

 

 

That makes sense.

[bflat]

20 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

The reality of our physical world has led us to question the deep space vacuum models presented to showcase human exploits and adventures in this medium.

 

Losing outer space gives the alien ufo phenomenon a new venue and in many ways makes them more realistic. If we are on an infinite plane with continental land masses outside the outer ring then all the more realistic.

 

I understand that for many its hard to wrap their minds around the type of conspiracies that must exist to pull off big deep space hoaxes. In this spirit I highly recommend viewing a 1978 movie called Capricorn One.

 

 

 

Most likely in real life the astronauts cooperated willingly. I can hardly imagine a mega psyop like this would recruit anyone they are not 100 % sure of. But still, this great movie gives a fair idea how things could be done if not exactly as they were done. Knowing how they pull these illusions off is half the trip to acceptance of the truth.

Watched [most] of it last night. Unreal, dude!

 

It reminded me of this British reality show where they convinced people that they were astronots and flew around their imagined space.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Channel+4's+Space+Cadets

 

I am picturing a few of our posters here actually on the show... Space Cadets, lmao:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3c5rsqqHjE

^^^Space Cadets Episode 1 Part 1 - Channel 4

[zArk]

know thyself

 

the rest is merely distraction , ego,

[Nobby Noboddy]

21 minutes ago, zArk said:

know thyself

 

the rest is merely distraction , ego,

Know thy world

 

the rest is merely bullshit

[alexa]

So where has 630 replies and 11650 views gotten us? I really hope this thread was able to wake some folk up to the true shape of our earth. We all know that Governments & NASA have all been lying to us, we only have to look at those 1969 fake moon landings and that stupid picture of Elon Musk's Tesla car supposedly in space lol's. The whole of humanity has been seriously duped for 500 years now and we need to come out of our slumber before it's to late.

 

No God created you and me and this (not so wonderful now) flat earth that we all live on together with the moon, sun, and the stars.

 

Once a flattie always a flattie 

 

 

[peter]

26 minutes ago, alexa said:

No God created you and me

Now that's a turn around

[alexa]

So where has 630 replies and 11650 views gotten us? I really hope this thread was able to wake some folk up to the true shape of our earth. We all know that Governments & NASA have all been lying to us, we only have to look at those 1969 fake moon landings and that stupid picture of Elon Musk's Tesla car supposedly in space lol's. The whole of humanity has been seriously duped for 500 years now and we need to come out of our slumber before it's to late.

 

God created you and me and this (not so wonderful now) flat earth that we all live on together with the moon, sun, and the stars.

 

Once a flattie always a flattie 

Is this better Peter ? 

[zArk]

@Nobby Noboddy there are so many picked out issues that both sides will answer, in their own way

both have trained answers 

 

the lack of authentic pictures from space is an issue worth holding up

use of special lenses for high altitude footage is another

and polaris does indicate failure in the sphere theory

 

 

the world entices one to engage with it, to internalise its workings, its failures, its threats. the ego is fed. 

 

the world can only give less-than-your self, it implants lack and thus desire

 

 

 

[bflat]

19 hours ago, zArk said:

know thyself

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

The flat earth reality is a very powerful meme. The Flat Earth Society was founded before NASA in 1956.

 

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

11 hours ago, alexa said:

So where has 630 replies and 11650 views gotten us? I really hope this thread was able to wake some folk up to the true shape of our earth.

 

Nearly 12,000 page views says to me we are dealing with a powerful meme. Especially these days when so many are coming to grips with the reality that the authorities are lying to them bigtime. Remorseless and recidivist liars.

 

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Antarctic Treaty 

Advance Notification Form

DS4131

 

Environmental Impact Assessment

Article 8

 

" If a proposed activity is determined, in a preliminary stage of assessment, to have less than a minor impact, it may proceed."

 

What does " less than minor" mean?

 

Isn't staying home a less than minor impact on the Antarctic environment? 

 

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[serpentine]

12 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

Nearly 12,000 page views says to me we are dealing with a powerful meme. Especially these days when so many are coming to grips with the reality that the authorities are lying to them bigtime. Remorseless and recidivist liars.

 

 

 

 

Mainstream science are authorities in science.

 

Don't conflate the activities of governments and politicians with the output of millions of scientists producing untold numbers of publications that dwarf any propositions made on youtube and such.

 

There are of course reasons for conducting hidden science and also producing science that is less than rigorous ie corporate science with  profit making in mind but resetting human understanding 2,500 years as regards the shape of the Earth is not on the cards.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

4 minutes ago, serpentine said:

Mainstream science are authorities in science.

 

That meme is on the decline.

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[bflat]

2 minutes ago, serpentine said:

Mainstream science are authorities in science.

 

Don't conflate the activities of governments and politicians with the output of millions of scientists producing untold numbers of publications that dwarf any propositions made on youtube and such.

 

There are of course reasons for conducting hidden science and also producing science that is less than rigorous ie corporate science with  profit making in mind but resetting human understanding 2,500 years as regards the shape of the Earth is not on the cards.

Will you ever go out and experiment for yourself like so many others have across our world? Or will you continue to trust freemasons because they tell you you can?

 

All you have to do is go measure the earth for yourself. The technology is here today to do this relatively cheaply. Freemasons will never tell you to go measure for yourself... in any of their publications, nor will any of their psuedoscientists.

[serpentine]

15 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

 

That meme is on the decline.

 

On the contrary with the dark matter theory and it's several variants failing to account for the phenomena observed by the latest generation of telescopes there is very much a renaissance in astronomy and astrophysics underway.

[serpentine]

18 minutes ago, bflat said:

Will you ever go out and experiment for yourself like so many others have across our world? Or will you continue to trust freemasons because they tell you you can?

 

All you have to do is go measure the earth for yourself. The technology is here today to do this relatively cheaply. Freemasons will never tell you to go measure for yourself... in any of their publications, nor will any of their psuedoscientists.

 

As someone who probably serially posts on a number of forums you may have forgotten that in the previous DI forum you have already directly called me a moron and a freemason.

 

With that and along with the level of arguments you offer comparable with the activities of a shell game bunkum artist I'll take any suggestions from you with a pinch of the proverbial.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

35 minutes ago, serpentine said:

 

On the contrary with the dark matter theory and it's several variants failing to account for the phenomena observed by the latest generation of telescopes there is very much a renaissance in astronomy and astrophysics underway.

 

Coupled with sonoluminescence and cymatics we might start getting somewhere.

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

1 hour ago, serpentine said:

There are of course reasons for conducting hidden science and also producing science that is less than rigorous ie corporate science with  profit making in mind but resetting human understanding 2,500 years as regards the shape of the Earth is not on the cards.

 

If humanity's historical truth was that in many epochs extremely peaceful and technologically advanced civilizations existed and prospered, here and then, do you believe warmongers and death profiteers and devious criminal type authorities of the last, say, 500 years would allow us to see it? If anything the progress of science in our time has been the product of systematic censorship and deceit.

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[Avoiceinthecrowd]

If memory serves, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a manuscript described by many as an alien blueprint for the enslavement of humanity, has many quotes in it about how the sciences were going to play a significant role in distorting our perceptions. Lead us to slaughter.

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[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Scientific arts of our time so advanced they still don't know how those pyramid blocks were cut so precisely ages ago. Maybe they did not suppress new technologies back then to appease energy cartels. Instead embracing them and developing the alternative to the fullest extent and reaping amazing benefits..

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[Avoiceinthecrowd]

Antarctic Treaty 

Advance Notification Form

DS4131

 

Environmental Impact Assessment

Article 8

 

" Any operator who plans a non governmental expedition that would require a CEE must submit a draft of the CEE by December 1 of the preceding year. Within fifteen (15) days of receipt of the draft CEE, EPA will: send it to the Department of State which will circulate it to all parties to the protocol, and forward it  to the Committee for Environmental Protection established by the protocol , and publish notice of receipt of the CEE and request for comments on the CEE in the Federal Register, and will provide copies to any person upon request. The EPA will accept public comments on the CEE for a period of 90 days following notice in the Federal Register. The EPA in consultation with other interested federal agencies, will evaluate the CEE to determine if the CEE meets the requirements under article 8 and Annex I to the protocol and the provisions of this part and will transmit its comments to the operator within 120 days following publication in the Federal Register of the notice of availability of the CEE."

 

This is the second wall in Antarctica. The wall of red tape.

 

[Avoiceinthecrowd]

" One of the more interesting facts is that the Soviet Union also ratified the treaty and did so from the beginning December 1, 1959. 

 

Do you really think the Soviets were truly concerned about the penguins and the fragile Antarctic environment?

 

In other words, America, the U.S.S.R. and the rest of the major countries of the world remain partners in generally closing Antarctica throughout most of the so-called fake space race, the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, the fake moonlandings, most of the Cold War, the Vietnam War, the Six Day War, the Soviet Afghan War and the collapse of the Soviet Union which at that time Russia continued as a signatory in 1992.

 

Thats some "peculiar" cooperation transending international conflicts don't you think?"