bflat Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 14 hours ago, peter said: So now you are talking in riddles ,so could you please explain the correlation to me ,as I have obviously missed the point Triangulation is a riddle for you? You couldn't google it? 13 hours ago, peter said: Maybe it is a natural effect because the curvature is there and you are using the software to remove it so as to push your own agenda. Just asking No, these lenses create curvature because of how they are designed. This is really basic stuff. Just google it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, chocomel said: Do you see an UFO by the left column? I see something unidentifiable to the uninitiated.. but if you mean flying saucers I would say nah. Best not to jump to conclusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 9 hours ago, peter said: The first question you asked ,I think if you thought about it a bit more it would become self explanatory LOL, please answer it then! The question was perfect and cannot be explained in your model no matter how many hoops you jump through. 9 hours ago, peter said: 2 the moon is the only one the solar system that has a rate of spin of one revolution per year so the same face is observed by the earth constantly The Moon does not spin, please. 9 hours ago, peter said: 3 It seems to have been placed into orbit with the accuracy of a Swiss watch It orbits nothing. 9 hours ago, peter said: 4 the moon seems to be somewhat hollow The Moon appears semi-translucent. Not only have stars been observed through her, but many times when the moon is visible during daytime, we see the crystal clear blue sky right through her as well. 9 hours ago, peter said: 5 Zulu history and legends speak of a time before the moon came into being LOL, well, there you go, folks. 9 hours ago, peter said: 6 Scientists speak of the earth and moon system as a planet, planet system as our moon is bigger than Pluto Scientists lie. 9 hours ago, peter said: 8 The earths gravity is not strong enough to capture an object the size of the moon ,and if by some fluke of nature it did the orbit would be elongated and not circular as it is The theory of gravity is stupid. You also need to be aware that the earth, according to mainstream science has no gravity. Mass does not attract mass. Modern astronomy must hold that Earth is simply curving spacetime and that all objects must follow that path. 9 hours ago, peter said: 9 They have recently found water on the moon ( interesting) Total bullshit! Just prove it. JFC 9 hours ago, peter said: The question should have been If the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a close orbit of such a huge mass and the answer to that is it doesn't The question should have been about why people believe such outlandish things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 minute ago, oddsnsods said: I see something unidentifiable to the uninitiated.. but if you mean flying saucers I would say nah. Best not to jump to conclusions. THAT does look like a speed boat AND an UFO...yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, chocomel said: THAT does look like a speed boat AND an UFO...yes. It uncannily does but I dont believe it is as it would be totally out of place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, bflat said: ! o_0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 52 minutes ago, bflat said: Obviously you haven't for if you had, the point would already be obvious and unmistakable You're talking out of your arse. You won't address the point about the moon not appearing to be smaller on the horizon because it falsifies flat earth theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, zArk said: o_0 Do we have a winner? Please, tell me you get it even if no one else does. Restore my faith, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, theo102 said: You're talking out of your arse. You won't address the point about the moon not appearing to be smaller on the horizon because it falsifies flat earth theory. hold on bucko the size of the moon at the horizon is a well debated issue in science. the size difference is a perception thing by tge mind referencing other objects that appear to intersect at the horizon. the size of the moon is questionable and so is the distance in the sky so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, bflat said: Do we have a winner? Please, tell me you get it even if no one else does. Restore my faith, lol. oh every1 gets it but are scrambling to find a glitch in the photo times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) The atmospheric layers of the spherical model Troposphere Stratosphere Mesosphere Thermosphere Ionosphere Exosphere Removing the Greek spherical (sphaira) component to better reflect reality and conserving the Greek root describing a layer we get stroma instead of sphere. Tropostroma Stratostroma Mesostroma Thermostroma Ionostroma Exostroma Edited June 7, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) This is an illustration of the networks of submarine communication cables linking the world continents. Aviation and marine use land based radio navigation systems like Loran for example. These radio systems have been absorbed into the gps protocol. If the physical characteristics of our world ever had the properties to allow eliptical orbits over a spherical body as depicted in the satellite narrative the fact remained the same that they were never needed. A satellite phone is simply a phone with increased signal sensitivity and additional transmission power. Radio waves are land, submarine and reflected. Edited June 7, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) The reality of our physical world has led us to question the deep space vacuum models presented to showcase human exploits and adventures in this medium. Losing outer space gives the alien ufo phenomenon a new venue and in many ways makes them more realistic. If we are on an infinite plane with continental land masses outside the outer ring then all the more realistic. I understand that for many its hard to wrap their minds around the type of conspiracies that must exist to pull off big deep space hoaxes. In this spirit I highly recommend viewing a 1978 movie called Capricorn One. Most likely in real life the astronauts cooperated willingly. I can hardly imagine a mega psyop like this would recruit anyone they are not 100 % sure of. But still, this great movie gives a fair idea how things could be done if not exactly as they were done. Knowing how they pull these illusions off is half the trip to acceptance of the truth. Edited June 7, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) James Bond, Diamonds are Forever. Slugging it out on a fake moonlanding movie set Edited June 7, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, bflat said: I expect this from theo, but not from you, peter. Have either of you downloaded Celestia? Or any space modeling software for that matter? Obviously you haven't for if you had, the point would already be obvious and unmistakable. I am nudging you guys as gently as possible, but it's each of our responsibilities to learn for our own selves. Look at these pics and consider ALL that can be gleaned. Now... THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN APPEARANCE as this is what we already know. Think for yourselves guys. You can do it! You debunk yourself, as why is the moon upside down if the planet is flat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 2 hours ago, oddsnsods said: It uncannily does but I dont believe it is as it would be totally out of place. Oh so someone drew over it later on?! e.g. grafitti by Ramesses? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, theo102 said: You're talking out of your arse. You won't address the point about the moon not appearing to be smaller on the horizon because it falsifies flat earth theory. I heard that sometimes moon looks so huge..... like blood moon. That's something to do with chemicals in the air.....act as magnifying lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: The atmospheric layers of the spherical model Troposphere Stratosphere Mesosphere Thermosphere Ionosphere Exosphere Removing the Greek spherical (sphaira) component to better reflect reality and conserving the Greek root describing a layer we get stroma instead of sphere. Tropostroma Stratostroma Mesostroma Thermostroma Ionostroma Exostroma Its the "new normal". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: You debunk yourself, as why is the moon upside down if the planet is flat? According to the bottom image, both people will look at the three dots on the bottom of the moon..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, chocomel said: Oh so someone drew over it later on?! e.g. grafitti by Ramesses? Yes proven by the hieroglyphics..or a flat earther was trying to get the truth out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Find the elephant in this room: Ballers can look for it in this room: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, bflat said: Triangulation is a riddle for you? You couldn't google it? I know what triangulation is, I would just like you to explain it to me within the context of the meme your brethren put up as evidence. You know very well that in my statement I was not referring to triangulation as a riddle and as such your reply indicates a slight felling of the desperation that is obviously creeping in Edited June 7, 2020 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Find the elephant in this room: Ballers can look for it in this room: Bugger me another piece of hard scientific evidence, you know the old saying ,if you can't impress them with brilliance bamboozle them with bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Find the elephant in this room: Ballers can look for it in this room: Zackly! Lots of elephants... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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