The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[Solasta]

On 8/3/2021 at 12:47 AM, theo102 said:

The numbers used in the flat earth wiki for sun height and earth diameter mean that that sun can't get any closer to the horizon than about 22 degrees in their model.

 

12500 miles diameter, 5000 miles high -> minimum angle = arctan (5000/12500) = 21.8 degrees.

 

https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/math/Arctan_Calculator.html

 

This post here is so insightful and accurate. The major problem is that though this is 100% provable and irefutable, none of the flat earthers understand any of it and would never respond anyway. That is just sad.

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4 hours ago, alexa said:

The sun disappearing over the horizon

 

No.....not over.......down........behind.
Clear as clear can be.

 

[alexa]

26 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

No.....not over.......down........behind.
Clear as clear can be.

 

 

I know, this had always baffled me until I watched Nobby's vid above.

[Solasta]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

I know, this had always baffled me until I watched Nobby's vid above.

 

This is trolling. Ignoring every response and reasserting the utter nonsense. The video has camera blooming and is deliberately deceptive. It explains nothing.

 

https://previews.customer.envatousercontent.com/files/f50f3c33-0714-427f-8006-a891c0099dce/video_preview_h264.mp4

 

Everyone on this planet including you, knows the Sun never changes size.

Everyone on this planet including you. understands things get smaller when they move away.

Anyone who has any spatial awareness knows that an object above eyeline stays above eyeline and doesn't disappear over the bloody horizon! The blue light above eyeline, at the top of each pole:

 

Now what ignore another post, hundreds and counting.

 

Edited January 30, 2022 by Solasta

[alexa]

24 minutes ago, Solasta said:

Everyone on this planet including you, knows the Sun never changes size.

 

I never said it  did.

 

24 minutes ago, Solasta said:

Everyone on this planet including you. understands things get smaller when they move away.

 

I never said they didn't.

26 minutes ago, Solasta said:

Anyone who has any spatial awareness knows that an object above eyeline stays above eyeline and doesn't disappear over the bloody horizon!

 

We were talking about the sun setting, what are you on about ?

[Solasta]

1 minute ago, alexa said:

I never said it  did.

 

Said no. Agreed with a video showing that very thing, yes!

 

Go on then, in your own words, tell us all what that video is showing you, that previousy "baffled" you.

 

1 minute ago, alexa said:

I never said they didn't.

 

 

So, how the hell does the Sun!? No, you didn't say anything, you rarely do. What you do is suggest this by your claim.

 

So you never said the Sun changes size, when it moves away it doesn't get smaller - explain how that doesn't baffle you.

 

1 minute ago, alexa said:

We were talking about the sun setting, what are you on about ?

 

The Sun being above eye-level. How can you not know this - I've said oh about a dozen times - each time ignored by you? How can any flat earther post crap without wondering how the laws of perspective are impossibly broken?

 

[alexa]

8 minutes ago, Solasta said:

Go on then, in your own words, tell us all what that video is showing you, that previousy "baffled" you.

 

What used to baffle me is where does the sun go after it sets, but I now know (from the vid) that it just carries on with It's path, causing sun rise elsewhere on a flat earth.

I've learned the motion of the sun on a plain.

[Solasta]

9 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

What used to baffle me is where does the sun go after it sets, but I now know (from the vid) that it just carries on with It's path, causing sun rise elsewhere on a flat earth.

I've learned the motion of the sun on a plain.

 

Nope. You are still baffled and don't know it. That is just a load of nonsense and you have learned nothing. The Sun SHOULD get smaller, the video explains nothing. The Sun is ABOVE eyeline it can NEVER drop below it, the video explains nothing.

 

Explain why the Sun doesn't get smaller and explain how it falls below eyeline. How far away do you think it is when it is 89 degrees from vertical? I worked it out and showed you how you could do that.

 

Right-Angled Triangle Calculator (cleavebooks.co.uk)

a=5000 (flat earthers normally say 3000, Nobby says 5000)

A=1 (degree)

 

Distance to the Sun = 286,000 miles!! It's fairly simple and blows any claim of a flat Earth completely out of the water. There is simply no answer apart from deceptive videos that don't explain reality, perspective and what everyone sees.

 

Edited January 30, 2022 by Solasta

[The Illuminator]

I'm half way through this thread. What a fucking shit show lads. Especially from the heliocentric doctrine followers.

 

I have refrained from the heliocentric vs geocentric debate for years for this very reason, as it comes with too many negative connotations. All I can say is since this plandemic shit started, I have delved into stuff that I won't normally. Just to see what else these ptb kernts have lied to us about. Conclusion is they have lied to us about near everything.

 

I have been on sites vastly more informed than this and they have debated the shape of this realm like adults. We have let the UK down. For example at no point in this thread have we discussed proper issues like pilots testimonials about how the curvature of earth or coriolis effect has no effect on their take off or landings, how in all effect and purposes the plane we reside on is flat. Or why we can see mercury and Venus in night sky? 

 

I am on the fence. The kernts in charge have lied to us. Why should we believe them when they say the world is an oblate spheroid? 

 

Wake the fuck up. Nasa is part of them. Believe nothing they say. Yes FE is flawed but so is Heliocentric thinking.

 

Stop fighting amongst ourselves and look towards them fuckers keeping us down. 

[The Illuminator]

On 10/4/2021 at 11:48 AM, oddsnsods said:

 

Enough Sand people Israelite bible loons around here already FLy, thats the main problem with most of these clowns, they believe anything their book tells them, even when it makes no logical sense. Sometimes they pick & choose different scriptures also to suit their agenda.

 

This guy thinks because he has black skin, he somehow has a kin ship with a tribe of people from like 3000 years back in the desert & this makes him special or chosen..same with flerth, they are obsessed with proving their bible beliefs true & this makes them at one with their Saturnian god.

 

Their god has trapped them on the flerth with a magical ice ring dome, but its all the masons hiding the fact from the world, to hide god from them.

Like serious padded cell logic up on this thread & you just topped up the shit pot.

 

Sorry to say but you and this Peter have not covered yourself in any glory in this thread. Actually you both come across as msm sheeple. Blindly following the doctrine that you have been brainwashed with. Shame as I thought you were a geezer. Live and learn.

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4 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

about how the curvature of earth or coriolis effect has no effect on their take off or landings

It wouldn't and doesn't.
l know no pilots that would comment that the coriolis effect does anything to affect them leaving or rejoining the ground.
 

6 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

and they have debated the shape of this realm like adults

 

Yes, l've seen this too.
This is why it's the last attempt here.
BC

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2 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

Actually you both come across as msm sheeple. Blindly following the doctrine that you have been brainwashed with.

 

l don't think they are doing / saying / following anything blindly.
.

Odds has provided some good contributions and AFAIK - Peter fly's quite a bit..
BC

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4 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

Actually you both come across as msm sheeple

 

And this doesn't help bring the discussion into the 'adult' realm either, does it ?

[The Illuminator]

Just now, Basket Case said:

It wouldn't and doesn't.
l know no pilots that would comment that the coriolis effect does anything to affect them leaving or rejoining the ground.
 

 

Yes, l've seen this too.
This is why it's the last attempt here.
BC

It wouldn't and doesn't if we reside in an enclosed space. My wife's best friends husband used to be a pilot with BA before scamdemic, now works in a police call centre. We've had some reet debates about 911 FE the works. Nothing he says refutes 911 or FE conspiracies. I showed him the emergency landings vid, he couldn't argue.

 

My point is, we as lay men can only go off our own observations and experiences. These often fly in the face of stuff we are taught and told by msm.

 

For example the atmosphere being intrinsically linked to the ground,I.e synced up. This cam only happen if we live in a snow globe with a barrier. My pilot mate couldn't get his head round why he didn't have to correct for curvature of earth or supposed coriolis effect.

[The Illuminator]

4 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

l don't think they are doing / saying / following anything blindly.
.

Odds has provided some good contributions and AFAIK - Peter fly's quite a bit..
BC

BC brother, I mean no disrespect. I am merely commenting as an observer.

 

It can not be underestimated what has happened to the human race these last 2 plus years. We need to extrapolate that shit to the wider world. Ergo they are lying to us about everything.

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2 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

My pilot mate couldn't get his head round why he didn't have to correct for curvature of earth or supposed coriolis effect.

Sorry, but l call BS on this.
l fly.
l know pilots.
This is utter nonsense.
BC

[The Illuminator]

5 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

And this doesn't help bring the discussion into the 'adult' realm either, does it ?

 

It doesn't I agree. But I only human after all. 

 

Why should I be held as a higher standard than the rest of the fuckers going about their business?

[Solasta]

37 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

I have refrained from the heliocentric vs geocentric debate for years for this very reason, as it comes with too many negative connotations. All I can say is since this plandemic shit started, I have delved into stuff that I won't normally. Just to see what else these ptb kernts have lied to us about. Conclusion is they have lied to us about near everything.

 

 

No lies have been told about the shape of our planet. Simple observation tells us all we need to know. Consistently and without exception, every major point raised has been ignored. I'm guessing you are going to do the same.

 

37 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

I have been on sites vastly more informed than this and they have debated the shape of this realm like adults. We have let the UK down. For example at no point in this thread have we discussed proper issues like pilots testimonials about how the curvature of earth or coriolis effect has no effect on their take off or landings, how in all effect and purposes the plane we reside on is flat. Or why we can see mercury and Venus in night sky?

 

 

If you are referring to any flat earth claimant as being "vastly more informed", on what basis are you making that claim? I have taken every single flat earther to the cleaners on this thread, so give it yoiur best shot. Oh and maybe answer some stuff too?

 

Coriolis has zero effect on take off or landing, that's gibberish. It has an effect on the route, which luckily is compensated for with regular trim from the auto pilots on every single passenger plane.

 

I'm waiting for you to expain why Mercury or Venus should not be visible at night.

 

37 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

I am on the fence. The kernts in charge have lied to us. Why should we believe them when they say the world is an oblate spheroid?

 

 

Yeah, like you really sound like you are on the fence. We don't need to believe anyone about the shape of the planet, we need to look at the evidence. The Sun setting for starters.

 

37 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

Wake the fuck up. Nasa is part of them. Believe nothing they say. Yes FE is flawed but so is Heliocentric thinking.

 

 

Junk statements. FE is flawed at every single point. Heliocentricity is perfectly explaining every single thing. YOU wake the f&%$ up!

 

37 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

Stop fighting amongst ourselves and look towards them fuckers keeping us down. 

 

There is no fighting, just the attempt at debate that fails because no flat earther has the integrity to answer the dozens of major problems.

 

Here's one for you.

 

The Moon is visible in two countries simultaneously. 8-10,000 miles apart, one seeing it rising, one seeing it set. They are on the same latitude. Both see the same identical face. Can you explain this? Nobody on the flat earth team has even attempted to.

 

Edited January 31, 2022 by Solasta

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1 minute ago, The Illuminator said:

 

It doesn't I agree. But I only human after all. 

 

Why should I be held as a higher standard than the rest of the fuckers going about their business?

Because you just called them out for it.
Accept it and dive in....or call it out and be respectful.
BC

[The Illuminator]

1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

Sorry, but l call BS on this.
l fly.
l know pilots.
This is utter nonsense.
BC

 

What is BS? Please explain? That the fact you don't have to correct for the earth's curvature or rotation? I'm sorry if I take my real time friends account over a dude over the Internet.sorry if that offends. 

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1 minute ago, The Illuminator said:

 

What is BS? Please explain? That the fact you don't have to correct for the earth's curvature or rotation? I'm sorry if I take my real time friends account over a dude over the Internet.sorry if that offends. 

lt doesn't offend.
Just makes me chuckle....

Absolute and total nonsense.

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2 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

 

What is BS? Please explain? That the fact you don't have to correct for the earth's curvature or rotation? I'm sorry if I take my real time friends account over a dude over the Internet.sorry if that offends. 

lf you carry on reading you will find a couple of fairly long posts by me, explaining how this is nonsense from a pilot / plane point of view.
l'm not going over it all again.
BC

[Solasta]

5 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

It wouldn't and doesn't if we reside in an enclosed space. My wife's best friends husband used to be a pilot with BA before scamdemic, now works in a police call centre. We've had some reet debates about 911 FE the works. Nothing he says refutes 911 or FE conspiracies. I showed him the emergency landings vid, he couldn't argue.

 

 

And he is the spokesperson for reality is he? Your "friend"?

 

5 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

My point is, we as lay men can only go off our own observations and experiences. These often fly in the face of stuff we are taught and told by msm.

 

 

Nothing I see flies in the face of this being a planet. Not one single thing. Not one single scrap of flat earth nonsense stands up to scrutiny. Not one single thing tabled by FE has a workable explanation.

 

5 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

For example the atmosphere being intrinsically linked to the ground,I.e synced up. This cam only happen if we live in a snow globe with a barrier.

 

Total nonsense. Gravity. Proven to exist and proven to mathematically work at planetary levels.

 

5 minutes ago, The Illuminator said:

My pilot mate couldn't get his head round why he didn't have to correct for curvature of earth or supposed coriolis effect.

 

Why would he. Gravity works against lift in opposing forces, coriolis is corrected very minutely by the auto pilot.

[The Illuminator]

In the heliocentric universe. When we are at darkness. We are facing away from the sun.  Then how come we can see the two inner most planets next to the sun when facing away?

 

Don't come at me like you have been doing this whole thread about how we should have the answers to everything.

 

It's akin to the plebs saying.....well too many people were involved with 911, can't happen, or how the fuck the whole planet was coerced into injecting Satan's sperm. I do not have all the answers.

 

As do know is that these cunts are lying to us and have been for centuries if not thousands of years.

 

Why the fuck do you follow these satanic cunts like good little slaves?

[Solasta]

He's on the fence. Yeah right. Some of the dozens and dozens of things that get ignored or have ludicrous answers from FE:

 

Here is a short and by no means concise list:

• The Sun sets without any size change and that is impossible in itself. The vanishing point is named thus!
• The Sun's motion through the sky is the same at every angle, location and time. It NEVER varies - 15 degrees of angular distance per hour.
• On any map of the flat earth, the two tropic circles HAVE to be different circumferences - the Sun HAS to increase speed for the larger one!! It provably does not differ in speed anywhere, any time.
• There has been not one iota of scientific measurement that corresponds to a flat earth, including sudden speed changes from the Sun.
• The Moon is inverted in the Southern Hemisphere. 
• At a range of distances starting with the unfeasible Everest height for the Sun - the horizon is a ridiculous distance away.
• ANYONE can take an image through a quality telescope of Mars/Jupiter etc. and see them rotating.
• ANYONE can take an image through a filter and see the Sun rotating.
• Lunar eclipses occur where the Earth moves across the Sun's path to the Moon.