alexa Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: To my surprise, in matters related to a flat earth and a potential dome it has been my experience that the scriptures have yielded a far more realistic picture of our physical plane than anything to be found in mainstream science. This is one of the reasons why I have become closer to God and his word. We only have to read Genesis 1 to realize that the earth can't be a spinning globe. To deny Genesis 1 is to deny God and @chocomel If you read Ezekiel 1 this may explain your pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) On 6/1/2020 at 8:47 AM, bflat said: Nope, another freemason lie! The perfect concentric circles can only occur around a fixed point. Beyond that... it would never be the same the next day, let alone six months from now when we are supposedly on the other side of the sun... let alone since humanity first looked to our sky. Just think for yourself on this one. Ok I will , If you have auto tracking on your scope you will stay on the fixed point you want to observe ,therefore the stars will appear they are moving in concentric circles around said fixed point due to the rotation of the earth , however to achieve this your scope mount has to be aligned correctly . This GO TO and Tracking capability has been available for at least the last 25 years in private hands and is used for amateur astro photography Edited June 7, 2020 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, alexa said: This is one of the reasons why I have become closer to God and his word. We only have to read Genesis 1 to realize that the earth can't be a spinning globe. To deny Genesis 1 is to deny God and @chocomel If you read Ezekiel 1 this may explain your pic. That is why I always ask anyone who keeps quoting the bible as the absolute truth , who physically wrote it god or man and I know they will most likely say god , my next question then is how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 21 hours ago, theo102 said: It obviously does - the moon appears the upside down in one of the Tennesse/Australia images. The fact that you don't have a point to make doesn't change that. You beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 13 hours ago, chocomel said: is anything spherical Apparently only a 52-100 steel ball bearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, peter said: That is why I always ask anyone who keeps quoting the bible as the absolute truth , who physically wrote it god or man and I know they will most likely say god , my next question then is how Through his prophets who had a very powerful and spiritual intervention with God especially Moses who wrote the first 5 books of the OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zarkov Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 This is an interesting subject. Over the years it seems that many of the things that we have been taught are lies - from government antics, AGW >climate, economics, many aspects of science, CV19 etc. So I dont have a definite view on whether the earth is flat or an oblate spheroid but remain open until such time as I can learn more. I do side on the electromagnetic/fractal universe hypothesis and came across an excellent short publication that has been a fascinating read that fulfulls many deductive criteria whereas dark matter big bang hypothesis is clearly an agenda steering logic and rationale away from truth. http://www.fractaluniverse.eclipse.co.uk/ElectroFractalUniverseWebVersion.pdf I do have some questions If the earth is spinning at 1040mph at the equator, why wouldnt the oceans all gather between the tropics of cancer and capricorn. If gravity directs towards the core at the centre and the centrifugal force directs outwards from the axis then why wouldnt all the oceans migrate to the tropics? water would flow from the poles! If the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a distant orbit of such a huge mass? and if it did wouldn't it be so powerful then that a spacecraft would never be able to attain escape velocity ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, alexa said: Through his prophets who had a very powerful and spiritual intervention with God especially Moses who wrote the first 5 books of the OT. Well you have just answered my question ,god didn't write it then Edited June 7, 2020 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, zarkov said: I do have some questions If the earth is spinning at 1040mph at the equator, why wouldnt the oceans all gather between the tropics of cancer and capricorn. If gravity directs towards the core at the centre and the centrifugal force directs outwards from the axis then why wouldnt all the oceans migrate to the tropics? water would flow from the poles! If the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a distant orbit of such a huge mass? and if it did wouldn't it be so powerful then that a spacecraft would never be able to attain escape velocity ? The first question you asked ,I think if you thought about it a bit more it would become self explanatory The next question you asked in my opinion is a ripper as there so many anomalies with our moon its existence beggars belief. 1 The wack theory and the double wack theory as to how the moon came into existence is now considered crap by scientists 2 the moon is the only one the solar system that has a rate of spin of one revolution per year so the same face is observed by the earth constantly 3 It seems to have been placed into orbit with the accuracy of a Swiss watch ,as the earth moon and sun seem to be the same size, due to the shadow cast and observations during solar or lunar eclipses 4 the moon seems to be somewhat hollow as it rings like a bell if struck however there seems to be large masses under what are called seas on the moon, as orbital corrections were necessary by craft orbiting the moon as they passed over these areas. 5 Zulu history and legends speak of a time before the moon came into being 6 Scientists speak of the earth and moon system as a planet, planet system as our moon is bigger than Pluto 7 if you look at the other moons with regards to size to the parent planet in our solar system our moon should be between 40-100 miles dia max 8 The earths gravity is not strong enough to capture an object the size of the moon ,and if by some fluke of nature it did the orbit would be elongated and not circular as it is 9 They have recently found water on the moon ( interesting) There are plenty more but these are the ones I can remember off the top of my head You asked if the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a distant orbit of such a huge mass The question should have been If the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a close orbit of such a huge mass and the answer to that is it doesn't Edited June 7, 2020 by peter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj35 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, peter said: The first question you asked ,I think if you thought about it a bit more it would become self explanatory The next question you asked in my opinion is a ripper as there so many anomalies with our moon its existence beggars belief. 1 The wack theory and the double wack theory as to how the moon came into existence is now considered crap by scientists 2 the moon is the only one the solar system that has a rate of spin of one revolution per year so the same face is observed by the earth constantly 3 It seems to have been placed into orbit with the accuracy of a Swiss watch ,at the earth moon and sun seem to be the same size, due to the shadow cast during solar or lunar eclipses 4 the moon seems to be somewhat hollow as it rings like a bell if struck however there seems to be large masses under what are called seas on the moon, as orbital corrections were necessary by craft orbiting the moon as they passed over these areas. 5 Zulu history and legends speak of a time before the moon came into being 6 Scientists speak of the earth and moon system as a planet, planet system as our moon is bigger than Pluto 7 if you look at the other moons with regards to size to the parent planet in our solar system our moon should be between 40-100 miles dia max 8 The earths gravity is not strong enough to capture an object the size of the moon ,and if by some fluke of nature it did the orbit would be elongated and not circular as it is 9 The have recently found water on the moon ( interesting) There are plenty more but these are the ones I can remember off the top of my head If the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a distant orbit of such a huge mass The question should have been If the moon is 1/6th the mass of the earth and is positioned some 230,000 miles away how then does gravity account for such a close orbit of such a huge mass Gravity doesn't even msm scientists puzzle this one. Thanks for this Peter was going to rock in and say the moon question is completely separate to the FE theory. Same as it is separate from whether the landings are faked. And don't want to derail this one but your answer pretty much encapsulates the basics. Plus atmosphere there's one there apparently We had a good what is the moon thread going pre hack and ink managed to retrieve most if it so once we have new forum we will get it back. Edited June 7, 2020 by kj35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 15 hours ago, bflat said: Truthspoon and myself explained this in the shill thread ,same picture different question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) Here's my 2 cents. I'm a broadcast engineer currently working in satellite broadcasting. We uplink to Astra satellite which then re-transmits the signal back down to earth to all the homes for Freesat. We also do the satellite news links into news programs although some of those links now come over the mobile phone network using specialized equipment. The satellites are in geostationary orbit around the earth, that is they are constantly falling toward the earth but maintain their position due to their velocity. If you look up into the night sky you can see the satellites. Same with the International Space Station, when it is overhead it can be clearly seen as a source of light in the sky. I've watched it pass over myself, seen it with my own eyes. Can the flat earthers tell me how the satellite broadcasting works, how do the satellites stay in position if according to Alexa their density would make them come crashing down to earth? Previously I've heard another member claim that the satellite signal comes from other sources, masts somewhere or fibres, but I can tell you are satellite dishes are pointed upwards to the sky not towards a mast, also if you go to the equator the satellite dishes are pointing straight up (Google it - satellite dishes at equator) whereas the dishes we have in UK are pointing upwards but not directly up, hence they are looking at satellites over the equator. If satellite dishes were receiving their signal from a secret fibre then that would mean every dish on every home used for receiving Sky would need to be fed with a secret fibre, if you have Sky, go out and look at your dish - is there a fibre coming from the ground going up into the dish? No, there isn't and it would be virtually impossible to arrange such a thing without it being noticed. We regularly receive signals from other countries like the USA or the other day Portugal for the McCann story, the satellite is positioned over the Atlantic ocean and the signal is transmitted up to it then the re transmit is directed towards us. The distances involved are to far for the signal to be coming from an omni directional terrestrial antenna, they simply wouldn't have the power to push a signal over the Atlantic. Are there satellites in space? How do they stay 'up' in the sky without crashing down? Am I, as a ground station engineer, and all my colleagues, deceived somehow, by a handful of engineers who know the real truth? Meaning they set up satellite dishes and then install a secret fibre coming to and from the dish to deliver the signal? I haven't seen it and I've also seen the effects of rain on the receive signal and how it degrades it, this wouldn't happen if there was secret fibres supplying the signal. I'm convinced, because I work with them every day, that the satellites are real and in orbit around the earth. This is only possible with a spherical Earth. The Earth is NOT flat. The Sun does NOT revolve around the Earth and the Church accepted this view in 1822, so to the Christians on this thread - do you not believe your own Church? Edited June 7, 2020 by pi3141 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, pi3141 said: Are there satellites in space? How do they stay 'up' in the sky without crashing down? Don't bother with any questions , the other side of the debate is always asking this side to explain this or explain that and when we do they either they move onto something else or state we didn't understand the implications of the question, but when this side of the debate asks something it is completely ignored, so you are wasting your time . Good post by the way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, peter said: Don't bother with any questions , the other side of the debate is always asking this side to explain this or explain that and when we do they either they move onto something else or state we didn't understand the implications of the question, but when this side of the debate asks something it is completely ignored, so you are wasting your time . Good post by the way Cheers Peter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 3 hours ago, peter said: Truthspoon and myself explained this in the shill thread ,same picture different question I noticed Bfake ignored yours & Truthspoons reply as he usually does & then went & posted same shit in another thread. This poster is very suspect & just keeps repeating same questions on the forum for months now. When someone answers he will just repeat it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 8:35 PM, alexa said: On 6/1/2020 at 12:01 AM, oddsnsods said: Same layout as the masonic temple of SOL O MON. Twin pillars..royal arch or rainbow...stairway to heaven. (Jacobs ladder) Even the black death. You are pushing masonry. Masonic fuckery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: Cymatics is a term for the patterns of vibration that occur on the surface of an object when it is excited by sound." Edited 16 hours ago by Avoiceinthecrowd From these pictures I can only deduce you are inferring that cymatics are in some way responsible for the formation of the flat earth However if this is true your theory is a little misguided, as in the statement cymatics are the patterns of vibration that occur on the surface of an object when it is excited by sound." The problem is your side of the debate has already steadfastly stated that space is a vacuum an as such sound won't travel through it and secondly since these patterns occur on the surface of an object ,that reasonably suggests that there must have been an object there to begin with and if so what was it. However I will grant you one concession ,the pictures are pretty Edited June 7, 2020 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 hours ago, alexa said: Through his prophets who had a very powerful and spiritual intervention with God especially Moses who wrote the first 5 books of the OT. You sure good old Moses wasn't partaking in the burning bush ,Acacia which contains DMT and as such had a spiritual experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, alexa said: This is one of the reasons why I have become closer to God and his word. We only have to read Genesis 1 to realize that the earth can't be a spinning globe. To deny Genesis 1 is to deny God and @chocomel If you read Ezekiel 1 this may explain your pic. OK, I'll read the one you've quoted. Are you referring to my Pokemon mask ava? EDIT: Genesis 1 has like 31 verses...Ezekiel 1 has 27 of them. Which one? Edited June 7, 2020 by chocomel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said: "Sound creating light." "Sonoluminescence is the emission of short burst of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid through intense acoustic frequency." "Sound is a physical phenomenon that cannot exist without a medium, and is often described as a vibration that propagates as a wave, able to travel through all forms of matter: gasses, liquids, solids, and plasma." For the science fiction lovers that have seen or read DUNE will recall how victory was achieved using sound weapons. "Cymatics is a term for the patterns of vibration that occur on the surface of an object when it is excited by sound." These are pretty pictures. Actually when you think about it...even David says we are holographic then these geometric shapes makes sense. We are not even solid! Just a projection. Hence the flower of life etc.... I believe that as we go higher up on dimension, everything is geometric. I have seen geometric shapes and Stuart Wilde once wrote an article about this place where geometric shapes started appear on people's skin. Never been able to dig that article up again. When I rub my eyes, I see black and white geometric shapes....one time something happened upon waking and without rubbing my eyes I was seeing spinning left and right black n white shapes.... I couldn't even stand up and didn't know what was happening so I called an ambulance. LOL EDIT: There is another DUNE released late this year. Edited June 7, 2020 by chocomel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, peter said: However I will grant you one concession ,the pictures are pretty It was one such concession on my part that opened my eyes to this amazing new idea of a flat earth. It always starts with a concession. Edited June 7, 2020 by Avoiceinthecrowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avoiceinthecrowd Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, chocomel said: EDIT: There is another DUNE released late this year. Big shoes to fill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 there is the danger of confusing how people depict pictorially the psyche and the real there is a danger of the ego describing the world instead of the real there is a real danger of confusing the world with the planet martin kelly is mixing a depiction of the psyche with the planet i can see how the growth of modern science from the masonic cult is projecting its paranoia and desire onto a created universe. imo the self, taoist, is being avoided by encouraging external notions to define oneself the flat earther is a name, a definition to subsume the self in a negative way a scientist is a name, subsumes the self in an acceptable way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflat Posted June 7, 2020 Author Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, theo102 said: So what? The reason you posted them isn't important. 11 hours ago, peter said: You beat me to it I expect this from theo, but not from you, peter. Have either of you downloaded Celestia? Or any space modeling software for that matter? Obviously you haven't for if you had, the point would already be obvious and unmistakable. I am nudging you guys as gently as possible, but it's each of our responsibilities to learn for our own selves. Look at these pics and consider ALL that can be gleaned. Now... THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE UPSIDE DOWN APPEARANCE as this is what we already know. Think for yourselves guys. You can do it! Edited June 7, 2020 by bflat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocomel Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 5 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Do you see an UFO by the left column? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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