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19 minutes ago, zArk said:

to be clear the Bible is a collection of works from a few sources

it is split into 2 main sections, the new testament and the old testament

 

the old testament can easily be cross-referenced with the hebrew version

 

i think the firmament is mentioned in daniel, psalms, genesis etc which is the hebrew bible

 

 

 

https://brandplucked.webs.com/genesis16firmament.htm

 

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The Hebrew word raqia is translated into the Greek word stereoma, which connotes a solid structure. Apparently, the translators of the Septuagint were influenced by the Egyptian view of cosmology, which embraced the notion of the heavens being a stone vault. This in turn was translated into English. Firmament poses the problem that the ancient Hebrews believed in a solid dome with the stars embedded in the dome which reflects erroneous cosmology, therefore making the Bible not the inspired Word of God.

 

So what does the Hebrew word mean? The Hebrew noun raqia is derived from the verb raqa, which means "to spread abroad, stamp or stretch"

 

Genesis 1:6-9, NASB says "Then God said, Let there be and EXPANSE in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."

 

So other versions of the Bible translates raqia as "expanse". (End of Bible corrector's comments)

 

 

First of all, it is more than a little silly to say that the word "firmament" is found in the King James Bible because the ancient Hebrews believed there was a solid dome.  Is this why so many modern versions as well still use the word "firmament"? Were they also of the opinion that the expanse of the heavens is solid?  Maybe the problem lies more with this bible agnostic's faulty definition of the word "firmament", than with the King James Bible.

 

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21 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

It's still your experience, & your experience of that collective. 

That is true. Basically it is always the same. What has been is the same as now. This concerns the foundations of existence. And then there are further additions that also still exist. Which go into more detail. Over which humans have no control or ability to manipulate.

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9 minutes ago, Origin said:

That is true. Basically it is always the same. What has been is the same as now. This concerns the foundations of existence. And then there are further additions that also still exist. Which go into more detail. Over which humans have no control or ability to manipulate.

Great.

Now to master this plane. 

I think you are doing yourself a disservice by dismissing it of being no use. 

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9 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

Great.

Now to master this plane. 

I think you are doing yourself a disservice by dismissing it of being no use. 

Any attempt to influence something over which humans have no control is nonsensical. If you are massively exposed to this intelligence, you either have to decide for your own way or the delusion that you can change something here.

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18 minutes ago, Origin said:

Any attempt to influence something over which humans have no control is nonsensical. If you are massively exposed to this intelligence, you either have to decide for your own way or the delusion that you can change something here.

Are you going to eat the food & enjoy it, or throw up & be miserable. 

You've not mastered boredom yet.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

Are you going to eat the food & enjoy it, or throw up & be miserable. 

You've not mastered boredom yet.

 

 

I do not deny that I am bored. It's like a movie in which everything is nonsensical. Anything of interest is most certainly not here on this temporal plane of existence. If you take a closer look at so-called existence here, you will get bored. And this intelligence could not change anything. 

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27 minutes ago, Origin said:

I do not deny that I am bored. It's like a movie in which everything is nonsensical. Anything of interest is most certainly not here on this temporal plane of existence. If you take a closer look at so-called existence here, you will get bored. And this intelligence could not change anything. 

I remember walking around the supermarket once looking at all the different characters (this was before the masks). Comical it was. I was disappointed to start with about nature not being natural. But fortunately that passed. I try & make the best of my lot, not cutting my nose off to spite my face. The Other can flow through & give comfort. 

 

Do you have memories like Guardian of being forced to be here?

 

Good evening.

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33 minutes ago, BlueSky said:

I remember walking around the supermarket once looking at all the different characters (this was before the masks). Comical it was. I was disappointed to start with about nature not being natural. But fortunately that passed. I try & make the best of my lot, not cutting my nose off to spite my face. The Other can flow through & give comfort. 

 

Do you have memories like Guardian of being forced to be here?

 

Good evening.

I think it was rather a matter of curiosity. I have to assume by now that my path is irregular. 

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43 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

What interests you ? If you don't mind me asking.

Questions that directly concern this intelligence and the possibilities it has. Everything that does not belong to this perceptible layer. 

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11 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Apparently those translates were influenced by Heliocentrism 

 

Come on let's read the line again and see which fits ... and the fk tard didn't check his writing

11 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Genesis 1:6-9, NASB says "Then God said, Let there be and EXPANSE in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters."

 

So other versions of the Bible translates raqia as "expanse". (End of Bible corrector's comments)

 

 

Let there be and expanse???

 

We know that vowels are a minefield for translation 

רָקִיעַ

 

is that raqia? Not rakiah? 

 

The Hebrew noun raqia is derived from the verb raqa

 

Erm that's the problem with jumping headfirst into the waters it can lead to bad assumptions

 

Surely when going to the Hebrew it is vital to get the context of the sentence and not focus upon one word as the determinist.

 

King James used Aramaic and Hebrew and is considered the conservative Bible 

 

Here's translations of genesis 1:6

 

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblestudytools.com/genesis/1-6-compare.html%3famp

 

So the query is does the word expanse fit in the sentence and other quotes or does the word firmament or barrier ?

 

N.b genesis is creation and does tend to lean a bit upon the earth and sky being created by God. Can't see NASA fan boys having much fun slopping around Bible verses

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10 hours ago, Basket Case said:


@alexa 

Have you had time to read this ?
BC

 

 

I have now😃

https://brandplucked.webs.com/genesis16firmament.htm

 

At the end of the article, it reads;

 

Don't let the Bible Agnostics fool you with their "deep insights" and personal opinions as they go about trying to "correct" what God got right.

 

Where by it should read;

 

Don't let the NASA Agnostics fool you with their "deep insights" and personal opinions as they go about trying to "correct" what God got right.

 

Having read the article I reckon they've done a good job at hiding the fact that there is solid Dome above us, let me explain why God says there is a solid Dome over our heads.

 

  • In the beginning God created the heavens, if you notice God says 'heavens' which is plural. In fact there are three heavens.
  • The first being where we have the sky, clouds etc, where by the birds fly around.
  • The second being the firmament (solid) where the sun and the moon plus the stars move in concession.
  • The third heaven is where the waters are and where God's throne is. It has to be solid to hold all the waters up.

 

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I'm sorry but I believe God's word over man's any-day.

 

Or Maybe we all live in a bubble?🤣

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2140450/The-Earth-trapped-bubble-scientists-explain-galactic-neighbourhood.html

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

He certainly has no time for the globe bollocks.

 

https://davidicke.com/2020/05/22/problem-spherical-earth-model/

 

7 hours ago, ink said:

 

You do know that David Icke didn't write that article .... that it was written by .... POSTED BY ROB MAZAK (STAFF AUTHOR)

 

David Icke has said this about this realm ....

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, evanslr said:

The more research I've done into Flat Earth, the more I can't believe I ever believed in the globe Earth nonsense. 

 

 

Me neither! Once a believer in F/E always a believer 👍

It's logical isn't it ?

All the questions you have to ask yourself, why don't we feel the earth move ?

How does water stay on a spinning ball? etc, etc...........

 

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

Me neither! Once a believer in F/E always a believer 👍

It's logical isn't it ?

All the questions you have to ask yourself, why don't we feel the earth move ?

How does water stay on a spinning ball? etc, etc...........

 

 

We don't feel the Earth move because it isn't accelerating. It's actually spinning really slowly for its size and gravity holds the water in place. The way it works is there is a centre of mass and objects, including water are naturally pulled towards it. It's why when you drop something it always falls down.

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