zArk Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: There is no Krypton layer of the atmosphere, it makes up 1% & is heavier than oxygen. Zark makes it up as he go's along..biggest shit talker on the forum. steady rocker, the ISS is claimed to be in the thermosphere. the exosphere (higher) is claimed to contain CO2 which is heavier than krypton gas at room temperature. even elemental sodium layers are in the thermosphere so pull back those horses and have a breather and read the NASA information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, peter said: What do you recon i dont reckon anything you write. I wish to get clarity about what you write The earth tilt creates the seasons doesnt it. Therefore the earth tilt is away from the sun part of the year and towards the sun for another part of the year So the tilt doesnt give the observer a greater angle of view , its relative to the observer position 6 months later The sun being a sphere means, no matter where on the circumferential orbit, the sun is always shining on the earth. 4 hours ago, peter said: you haven't taken into account that the earth orbits above and below the elliptical plane ,that is how we get our seasons above, below doesnt matter its all a made up orbit aint it? so how does this all affect the observer view of the night sky stars??? The tilt doesnt create a greater angle of view the ecliptic cant change the angle of observation Show me the helio diagram explaining the night sky stars. Edited October 7, 2021 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 minute ago, zArk said: steady rocker, the ISS is claimed to be in the thermosphere. the exosphere (higher) is claimed to contain CO2 which is heavier than krypton gas at room temperature. even elemental sodium layers are in the thermosphere so pull back those horses and have a breather and read the NASA information What heights the Krypton layer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: What heights the Krypton layer? so you concede the point about density in the upper exosphere and thermosphere, higher than the mesosphere and higher than the .... Jesus, atmosphere!!! get Russ abbot in here Edited October 7, 2021 by zArk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, zArk said: so you concede the point about density in the upper exosphere and thermosphere, higher than the mesosphere and higher than the .... Jesus, atmosphere!!! get Russ abbot in here What heights the krypton layer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, zArk said: so you concede the point about density in the upper exosphere and thermosphere, higher than the mesosphere and higher than the .... Jesus, atmosphere!!! get Russ abbot in here I believe its something to do with temperature, but space doesn't exist remember, so why would you be citing NASA im not sure. If was about density & not gravity, surely the sun would just fall out of space that doesn't exist. The sun is very dense they tell me & would have trouble orbiting the earth. Im still WAITING FOR DETAILS on your theory of the sun & moon being manifested & if the firmament is full of water or how your refracted image through the dome works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) Why dose Krypton gather at the top of the firmament , is it because the name sounds better than all the other noble gasses Edited October 7, 2021 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, zArk said: i dont reckon anything you write. I wish to get clarity about what you write The earth tilt creates the seasons doesnt it. Therefore the earth tilt is away from the sun part of the year and towards the sun for another part of the year So the tilt doesnt give the observer a greater angle of view , its relative to the observer position 6 months later The sun being a sphere means, no matter where on the circumferential orbit, the sun is always shining on the earth. above, below doesnt matter its all a made up orbit aint it? so how does this all affect the observer view of the night sky stars??? The tilt doesnt create a greater angle of view the ecliptic cant change the angle of observation Show me the helio diagram explaining the night sky stars. Have you found a diagram drawn to scale yet,but first 1 your theory in point form 2 what body is outside the firmament refracting the moons image 3 what path does it take in the non existent space Keep dancing, the waltz is great for conserving energy and you only have to count to 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, oddsnsods said: Whats your biBULL say Flalexa? Not sure oddone, ? Dunno if it stretches to this much b/s. Edited October 7, 2021 by alexa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, bamboozooka said: whats the science text book say of the big bang theory? thats it, its a theory. non observable. non repeatable. More incite from the master , what has the bullshit bang got to do with this, I hope that's not you throwing all you ideas that don't work ,I bet you'll need a few more bins real quick Edited October 7, 2021 by peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 hours ago, bamboozooka said: if an atheist can't handle flat earth they can't handle there being a firmament. Well, I am an atheist and can understand both without any problems. And I am quite sure that a flat earther cannot even fathom how sophisticated the firmament is. And since they only rely on interpretations by humans, they will not be able to explain it. Basically, it is rather amusing that no religion has been able to understand it as a higher dimensional construct. And here something is playing with reality itself and so it could mean that reality is not of natural origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alexa Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, Origin said: And I am quite sure that a flat earther cannot even fathom how sophisticated the firmament is. And since they only rely on interpretations by humans, they will not be able to explain it. So please, lets hear your interpretation of the firmament, I'm very interested ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, alexa said: Not sure oddone, ? Dunno if it stretches to this much b/s. Your BS is falexable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, evanslr said: Watch Jeranism debunk himself & prove the earth is a sphere & turns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, alexa said: So please, lets hear your interpretation of the firmament, I'm very interested ? Why should I tell you about it? When you are ready to accept answers you should perceive something that you now consider impossible. Something will become present when you are ready. If you only believe, you will never know. Remember you are facing an intelligence of the highest order. I can only imply that this intelligence is vastly underestimated and is seen far too much from the limited perspective of a human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Origin said: Why should I tell you about it? When you are ready to accept answers you should perceive something that you now consider impossible. Something will become present when you are ready. If you only believe, you will never know. Remember you are facing an intelligence of the highest order. I can only imply that this intelligence is vastly underestimated and is seen far too much from the limited perspective of a human being. Except for you, Hmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, alexa said: Except for you, Hmm! That is not correct. I have never asked to lose so many illusions. Like my notions of the universe and large spatial expanses. Und that does not mean that it is wise to interfere in something. This is also a lesson that you learn. The firmament is something extraordinary. And the current models in no way do justice to what is really there. Something unbelievable surrounds us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Watch Jeranism debunk himself & prove the earth is a sphere & turns. 1. Birds don't fly at night & 2. This proves the moon is not 384,400 km away from earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, Origin said: That is not correct. I have never asked to lose so many illusions. Like my notions of the universe and large spatial expanses. Und that does not mean that it is wise to interfere in something. This is also a lesson that you learn. The firmament is something extraordinary. And the current models in no way do justice to what is really there. Something unbelievable surrounds us... Like what ? So you admit there is something that surrounds us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, alexa said: 1. Birds don't fly at night & 2. This proves the moon is not 384,400 km away from earth. What about bats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: What about bats? But on the vid he states bird ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Just now, alexa said: But on the vid he states bird ....... Watch the video, youll see is a bat & youre wrong as usual, some birds do fly at night. So please dont use some silly argument, that doesnt debunk shit & doesnt prove the moon is not where its sposed to be atall. Please dont waste both our time commenting on my posts if you are going to post nonsense. The ISS passes by at the exact predicted time.. proving the earth is definitely a sphere & nothing that speed could survive inside our atmosphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, alexa said: Like what ? So you admit there is something that surrounds us ? It permeates you when you move. And that it does not correspond to spatial notions of Humans. But what reason would humans have to be curious if they could decode reality? You would fixate on one point and lose yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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