Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: That's beautiful. Reminds me of Nigel Stamfords Timescapes music video I have tucked away for chill out and recharge moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, oddsnsods said: Whats your point? And why the childish thing with the eyes Got nothing better to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: . The idea that the sun sets because we are falling backwards on a sphere should be long gone. The Sun and Moon do not recede. Watch the video Odds posted. I have witnessed this exact same thing in exactly the same way 100s and 100s of times in my life. From all angles and corners of this Realm. The Sun is (measurably) exactly the same size (and speed) across the sky at all times. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, Jikwan said: Whats your point? And why the childish thing with the eyes Got nothing better to do? I think he's hinting that you should have a look at the video. I just did. It's superb. BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboftruth Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Basket Case said: The Sun is (measurably) exactly the same size (and speed) across the sky at all times. I just showed you that that is not so. On the best days we see exactly what the sun does. You don't see the size change clearly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Just now, cuboftruth said: I just showed you that that is not so. On the best days we see exactly what the sun does. You don't see the size change clearly? That is an extremely low resolution GIF. Show me a very high res video of the mythical receding Sun or Moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: You need to view this on very clear days. The idea that the sun sets because we are falling backwards on a sphere should be long gone. If you can get past the algorithms, you can find the above all over the place. What is this? You are posting a gif showing the light from the sun blooming in multiple images and then deceptively suggesting that the Sun diminishes accordingly. It does not and never has done. My eyes and the eyes of everyone on planet Earth see the same size everywhere, at midday and at sunset and sunrise. How far away is it when closest and how far away is it when it suddenly disappears full size? Same with the Moon. Can you explain how views of the Moon simultaneously from South America and Southern Africa are obviously completely different and in answer to your ridiculous picture on the ceiling claim, can you tell me why they don't both see the Moon different ways up? I eagerly await anyone giving a decipherable answer to this. @zArk, 2d Moon? No phases and then it would be oval shaped as it moves away. Absurd claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: I just showed you that that is not so. On the best days we see exactly what the sun does. You don't see the size change clearly? I have watched the sun set many times over Lake Huron...absolutely beautiful...BUT it does not get smaller, It stays huge. Edited August 28, 2021 by Beaujangles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboftruth Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 9:19 AM, gregory-peccary said: You could say those squiggly bits are due to the ball earth orbiting the sun. If you wanted to... I don't see how you can say that. Can you explain yourself? On 8/20/2021 at 10:01 AM, BlueSky said: The bottom half of the blades weren't visible with your eyes because of the distance. The Nikon camera in the previous video of the boat & buoy showed this. From the beach nothing in the distance was visible, but once the camera zoomed in there they were. This goes back to the claim that the horizon in the mainstream narrative is physical. The fact that cameras show these objects clearly disproves that notion. Page 9 done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboftruth Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Beaujangles said: I have watched the sun set many times over Lake Huron...absolutely beautiful...BUT it does not get smaller, It stays huge. Most days yes, and this is do to many factors. This is why these observations can only be made under the best conditions. It is not like it sets because we are falling backwards one day, but then on clear days it simply recedes and does appear smaller as it does. That is just the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, oddsnsods said: What Zark is saying is the moon is flat 2d & above our heads rather than in the distance. The perspective you describe viewing the moon would not be round but like a disc & you would never see any moon phases or lunar eclipse. What gets me is how you all agree with this, like theres no debate amongst you people. No matter how ridiculous the theory. You can zoom in on the moon with a camera or telescope & clearly see the terrain & shadows. So when the creator decided to put this 2d flat disc in the ceiling, that looks precisely like a sphere & the sun clearly shines on like a sphere. What was the purpose of this lunacy? Answers on a post card @zArk @zArk I clearly demonstrated evidence of the curve a few pages back with the drone footage & the fact the suns diameter never changes when it falls below the horizon. There is no vanishing point or difference of perspective. Thats just another cheap trick Haha First you find a place where the sun sets and there are hills on the horizon. Note it must not be a flat plane. If it is,the cheap trick will not work As the drone camera rises you look over those hills to see an extra few seconds of sun Another miserable debunking failure Edited August 28, 2021 by Jikwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: Most days yes, and this is do to many factors. This is why these observations can only be made under the best conditions. It is not like it sets because we are falling backwards one day, but then on clear days it simply recedes and does appear smaller as it does. That is just the facts. Can you please expand on this as this makes no sense in it's present form. "That is just the facts" What facts ????? What are you trying to say ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jikwan said: Thats just another cheap trick Haha First you find a place where the sun sets and there are hills on the horizon. Note it must not be a flat plane. If it is,the cheap trick will not work It's a flat sea. A FLAT SEA. What are you talking about ?? 6 minutes ago, Jikwan said: Another miserable debunking failure No. Another completely abysmal attempt at papering over the cracks in your beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Basket Case said: @zArk @cuboftruth @Jikwan So how high is the Moon from the surface of our environment ? ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboftruth Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Basket Case said: Can you please expand on this as this makes no sense in it's present form. "That is just the facts" What facts ????? What are you trying to say ? The sun recedes, we are not falling backwards, and on the perfect days we can all see this. Here is another one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Basket Case said: That is an extremely low resolution GIF. Show me a very high res video of the mythical receding Sun or Moon. ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, Trigger said: What is this? You are posting a gif showing the light from the sun blooming in multiple images and then deceptively suggesting that the Sun diminishes accordingly. It does not and never has done. My eyes and the eyes of everyone on planet Earth see the same size everywhere, at midday and at sunset and sunrise. How far away is it when closest and how far away is it when it suddenly disappears full size? Same with the Moon. Can you explain how views of the Moon simultaneously from South America and Southern Africa are obviously completely different and in answer to your ridiculous picture on the ceiling claim, can you tell me why they don't both see the Moon different ways up? I eagerly await anyone giving a decipherable answer to this. @zArk, 2d Moon? No phases and then it would be oval shaped as it moves away. Absurd claim. @zArk @cuboftruth @Jikwan Anyone care to respond ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: Here is another one... Another low res GIF. I asked for a very high res video. Surely you must have one to hand ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuboftruth Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Basket Case said: Another low res GIF. I asked for a very high res video. Surely you must have one to hand ?? Timestamped... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jikwan Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Basket Case said: It's a flat sea. A FLAT SEA. What are you talking about ?? No. Another completely abysmal attempt at papering over the cracks in your beliefs. I forgot to paste the video about the drone. It was offered by odds proving curveture I have now pasted it. The one with the drone Its this one Edited August 28, 2021 by Jikwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: Timestamped... That is an extremely low quality time lapse scene. Show me a clear high quality video zoomed in to this 'receding Sun'.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jikwan said: I forgot to paste the video about the drone. It was offered by odds proving curveture I have now pasted it. The one with the drone Watch the short video Odds posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gone Fishing... Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, cuboftruth said: Timestamped Show me a video this clear and zoomed in, to show this 'receding Sun' you speak of.. Like this short video. ezNYuDXaf3E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, oddsnsods said: In spring the sky at night is the same as the sky at night in autumn. How the f does that happen in the heliocentric world? scenario Spring night time we are facing outter space , with the sun in the opposite direction. 6 months later, the earth rotates around to the opposite side of the Sun, face the opposite way to Spring but still sees the same stars wtf is that ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddsnsods Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I have put together a clear experiment of my ceiling lights, for @zArk showing how a 2d disc moon perspective would look like. https://streamable.com/a3quar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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