The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

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10 minutes ago, Jikwan said:

The problem i have with comets is theyve never in recorded history has anyone witnessed a comet entering our atmosphere and crashing or exploding before contact of the ground.

When we look up we re always seeing "comets" streaking by sometimes thin streaks sometimes thicker. So what...? A giant one might "fly by" every 5000 years.

These "stars/planets/comets" are programmed into the firmament like computer software....why not?

Hey, i dont know its my opinion only

A lot of stuff like this we can only guess

Its because no one knows (im refering to giant comets and planets out there)

 

 

How about a meteorite..? 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

[Jikwan]

46 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

How about a meteorite..? 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

The fireballs could easily be manufactured rockets programmed to release firey gas for 2km then selfdestuct at a given altitude

I remember seeing a big one in siberian skies

The small rocks could be ballast thrown out of baloons to give greater height

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1 hour ago, Jikwan said:

The fireballs could easily be manufactured rockets programmed to release firey gas for 2km then selfdestuct at a given altitude

I remember seeing a big one in siberian skies

The small rocks could be ballast thrown out of baloons to give greater height

 

I love it.. 

Thank you  :0)

 

[gregory-peccary]

4 hours ago, Jikwan said:

The problem i have with comets is theyve never in recorded history has anyone witnessed a comet entering our atmosphere and crashing or exploding before contact of the ground.

When we look up we re always seeing "comets" streaking by sometimes thin streaks sometimes thicker. So what...? A giant one might "fly by" every 5000 years.

These "stars/planets/comets" are programmed into the firmament like computer software....why not?

Hey, i dont know its my opinion only

A lot of stuff like this we can only guess

Its because no one knows (im refering to giant comets and planets out there)

 

Have a read of Worlds in Collision by Immanuel Velikovsky. He makes it very clear that a comet HAS crashed into the earth in recorded history and gives so many quotes from the bible and other sources he practically rubs your nose in it! Standard science hates him and his works with a vengeance! Whether he is correct in his conclusions I honestly don't know, but he was the first to point out that something is very wrong with history and the 'unchanging' nature of astronomy and geology.

[cuboftruth]

5 hours ago, Basket Case said:

 

How about a meteorite..? 

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

 

Hi bc, the op mentions...

If you're going to post a video, or a link to a video, please also explain the content of that video as well as give your own opinion/take on it - and don't post videos that have already been posted.

 

Would you be so kind?

 

I honestly can not figure out what any of this has to do with the shape of the world.

 

And why skip over gigantic points actually dealing with the shape, speeds and motions? Let's get right to the crux of it.

[cuboftruth]

On 8/13/2021 at 10:55 AM, bamboozooka said:

i'd have thought ppl on either side would have created scale 3d models in 3d studio or maya by now to show one way or the other what is closer to reality

Several have been done. 

 

Timestamped...

 

Note the difference at just one mile up, and then again at five miles, around where airlines fly.

 

[oddsnsods]

BC I think there should be a rule newbs should refrain from giving orders out & disrupting threads...

specially when they are usually socks who post exactly the same shit they posted in previous threads under previous usernames that got banned.

 

Rinse & repeat Tavistock types..repeat a lie enough time & in their mind it becomes the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[oddsnsods]

3 hours ago, gregory-peccary said:

Have a read of Worlds in Collision by Immanuel Velikovsky. He makes it very clear that a comet HAS crashed into the earth in recorded history and gives so many quotes from the bible and other sources he practically rubs your nose in it! Standard science hates him and his works with a vengeance! Whether he is correct in his conclusions I honestly don't know, but he was the first to point out that something is very wrong with history and the 'unchanging' nature of astronomy and geology.

 

 

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5 hours ago, cuboftruth said:

If you're going to post a video, or a link to a video, please also explain the content of that video as well as give your own opinion/take on it - and don't post videos that have already been posted.

l asked - "What about Meteorites ?"  and gave video proof of meteorites...

Be careful, as the cards here are not stacked in your favour..
BC

 

[cuboftruth]

  

On 8/12/2021 at 2:09 PM, Morpheus said:

Personally I like the subject, I just don't see why it should bother other people who want to discuss this subject without criticism. You don't see this type of behaviour on any other topic on this forum. It stirs the imagination as to why. A conundrum if you will, this is why I'm suspicious because one doth protest too much. Suspect as fuck. 

I am with you, brother. As I am reading this thread through, just finished page 5, I am seeing over and over some pretty fierce hatred from people who clearly do not want this topic discussed. Grumpy and bc have been pretty clear of their feelings about this and the off topic posting that continues to this point is staggering.

 

Is there another topic... banking, jews, bloodlines, 911, covid, etc., where this happens anywhere near to this extent?

 

On 8/12/2021 at 2:28 PM, Golden Retriever said:

 

But how many were infiltrated imo by a poster of dubious intent, who I will not name,  but who had multiple sock accounts and disrupted the FE threads on the original forum too.

I have made it a good way through the long thread, and I would have to agree. There are actually a few different names that I am noticing from that thread. This obviously makes for problems with discussion that ends up unreadable, which of course is the task of said posters. It is also a moderation nightmare which gives them the perfect excuse to lock these threads. I think all of us here get that.

 

On 8/13/2021 at 4:41 AM, zArk said:

The planet is flat.

Laser experiments across water show flatness

The heliocentrics haven't shown their curve

 

 

This is what we are all really here for. Isn't it? Does this fall under not discussable, because others have discussed this prior?

 

Or, is it because the real crux of this matter will not be discussed?

 

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by cuboftruth

[Golden Retriever]

2 minutes ago, cuboftruth said:

Is there another topic... banking, jews, bloodlines, 911, covid, etc., where this happens anywhere near to this extent?

 

Yes, but I'm keeping quiet

[cuboftruth]

On 8/18/2021 at 6:04 AM, Jikwan said:

"No physical experiment has ever proved that the Earth actually is in motion." - Lincoln Barnett, Einstein biographer

Does this concern anyone here?

 

On 8/18/2021 at 2:05 PM, Jikwan said:

bflat

Posted May 17, 2020

 

The “Nature of Reality” forum was recently hosting a thread where heated discussion was taking place regarding our plane, “a flat, nonrotating Earth” as nasa themselves reference multiple times in multiple documents. Freemason trolls were going crazy over their delusion being exposed, which in itself was fun to watch. The thread was several pages long, I believe over 40, was posted to multiple times each day, and was being viewed 100s of times each day.

So, I’ll lay out the basics for discussion, the freemason trolls will come on here with nearly every logical fallacy known to man; they will even openly lie. For anyone looking for truth, try not to let this distract you from these few, simple, points… and enjoy!

 

T   1) The horizon! I simply cannot stress enough how important it is to understand that with the technology available today for around $500, you can test for yourself whether the horizon is a physical barrier as it MUST BE in the current heliocentric delusion put forth by Jesuit freemasons and accepted today by “modern astronomy,” or if it is simply what any artist knows as a vanishing point/line based on perspective. Here are some examples of what you will find:

 

I am not sure of the cost of the above setup, but it is technology like this that is advancing rapidly and has been destroying the globe lie all over the world. Youtube, facebook, twitter, etc. cannot take these videos down and ban the account owners fast enough. Our ability to use infrared, allowing us to cut through the atmosphere and the ability max out the contrast allows us to see farther than ever before. FTR, the above horizon is around 100 miles or more beyond where it would be if the earth were a globe, 25,000 miles in circumference.

 

 

The above video speaks for itself. Watch it at least until the father shoots a laser directly into his son’s camera lens from 13.7 miles away!

 

And this is an old one of usaf major Brian Shul flying around in his fighter jet and telling us quite bluntly of seeing Canada from New Mexico!

The horizon also always rises to the eye level of the observer and remains perfectly flat, 360 degrees. From the beach:

 

 

To the highest rides in hot air balloons:

 

If they earth is a ball like the freemasons claim, as we move higher we would need to look down to see the horizon, but this never happens. Since none of us have ever seen this ourselves, check this open sourced 3d model of what we should see from a hot air balloon, yet never do:

 

 

 

 

Does this? Is this honestly not a discussionable issue?

[Jikwan]

3 minutes ago, cuboftruth said:

Does this concern anyone here?

 

Does this? Is this honestly not a discussionable issue?

They are and have been discussed these past few weeks.

Its been moving along quite nicely 

I would like to see the minimization of FE researchers discussing the subject with full on opposers of our FE theory.

These full on opposers only come here to........im not going to say it. I ll stop

 

Im saying FE investigators must not discuss the subject with FE debunkers

 

Bflat and voiceinthecrowd discussed with the debunkers but they are not like the usual poster

They were super cool cats and knew their subject well

[oddsnsods]

On 8/23/2021 at 5:03 PM, bamboozooka said:

still waiting for peter to produce some globular evidence

 

You could probably do this three times from the ground..but further you go up the drone obviously wont be able to go because of lower air density & so would struggle.

I know this is Rockefeller nonsense you think im talking but you really should try it.

 

You could also zoom in with your P1000 & look at a sunset & see it drop below the horizon, not fade away into the background. Its stays the same width as it sets, as the sun never changes size in the sky.

 

 

 

[cuboftruth]

3 hours ago, Basket Case said:

l asked - "What about Meteorites ?"  and gave video proof of meteorites...

Be careful, as the cards here are not stacked in your favour..
BC

 

Sorry, I know you hate this topic, but you did post that and I was honestly curious as to how you felt that those videos related to the shape, speeds or motions of the earth.

 

I have seen videos with 'meteorite' or 'meteor' in the title, but my understanding of the mainstream narrative is that these things come from 'space.'

 

If those videos prove that as you stated, can you direct me the actual part where it is confirmed that these objects came from space? Not that that would tell us the shape here, but it sure would be interesting to know and I just don't have the time to watch random youtubes.

 

Not sure about your 'deck' comment either. Have I offended you? If so, I apologize. That was never my intention.

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1 minute ago, cuboftruth said:

I was honestly curious as to how you felt that those videos related to the shape, speeds or motions of the earth.

 

If you look properly you'll see it was in response to someone else's comment about Comets not being provably real.. 

 

Where does anyone seriously think Comets / Meteorites come from ?? 

 

[Jikwan]

36 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

If you look properly you'll see it was in response to someone else's comment about Comets not being provably real.. 

 

Where does anyone seriously think Comets / Meteorites come from ?? 

 

Where is all this evidence of comets and meteorites?

Nobody in recorded history has ever seen one in our atmosphere

Where are all thes craters from their collision?

There arent any

A big hole in the ground doesnt mean its from outerspace rock

The alleged meteor site must have tons of alien rock not found on earth

There isnt any of this alien rock anywhere

Its laughable what they say these proffessors and experts

They say comets selfcombust before they hit the ground and conveniently leave zero trace of their presence

Ive said it before....you give me some cash 1 or 2 techs 5 or 10 mechanics i coul build you an impressive firey selfcombustable "comet" in just 2 months

What about your evidence?

3or4 small and medium sized rocks falling at 300mph is evidence?

Proof! We want credible proof

Edited August 25, 2021 by Jikwan

[zArk]

6 hours ago, cuboftruth said:

This is what we are all really here for. Isn't it? Does this fall under not discussable, because others have discussed this prior?

 

Or, is it because the real crux of this matter will not be discussed?

The sphere defenders haven't got an answer. They haven't got a measurable curve . They have maths and a blackboard but no real measurable repeatable evidence of a curve.

 

 

[cuboftruth]

On 8/18/2021 at 2:29 PM, Jikwan said:

I.been reading the long FE thread started by bflat.

Got to say im impressed with the way bflat and avoiceinthecrowd conducted the discussion.

They knew the subject extremely well and kept their cool all the time

And they were banned, no?

 

On 8/18/2021 at 2:42 PM, Jikwan said:

Longest line of sight photographed

 

325 MILES

 

 

This is a sensation!

I will try and post the photo

This one is much farther than the current guiness world record

 

 

 

HIDDEN World Record Low Altitude FLAT EARTH Puig Sallfort (Pyrénées-Orientales) - Île et Phare de Giraglia (Corsica) Observer = 2 227 feet / 979 mètres Distance = 325 miles / 523,79 km HO = 69,40 miles / 111,69 km HI = 43 680 feet / 13,31 km 8,27 miles 

 

Can this be discussed? Will this be discussed? There are so many of these observations. How can anyone think this is possible on a globe?

 

On 8/18/2021 at 3:00 PM, Fluke said:

I just had a thought. If the earth rotates, if i get a helicopter and stay in one position for 2 hours will i end up in a different country? 

The mainstream narrative for what happens in this situation is a huge tell. 

 

On 8/19/2021 at 11:35 PM, Jikwan said:

Avoiceinthecrowd said

 

In a vacuum chamber you have a 1000 mph spinning ball covered in water and gaseous atmosphere and gravity holds all this stuff together. My world makes more sense.

 

hahahaha     (i said that)

So true... the mainstream narrative can not begin to even address this fairly.

 

On 8/20/2021 at 8:01 AM, Jikwan said:

bflat, the great FE researcher kept encouraging us to conduct experiments that prove zero curveture .

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[Jikwan]

1 hour ago, cuboftruth said:

And they were banned, no?

 

Can this be discussed? Will this be discussed? There are so many of these observations. How can anyone think this is possible on a globe?

 

The mainstream narrative for what happens in this situation is a huge tell. 

 

So true... the mainstream narrative can not begin to even address this fairly.

 

Their own tech is destroying their stupid lies!

Hey man, your energy and enthusiasm is appreciated.

Not sure if bflat was banned but i hear sometimes he had 4 accounts

On this forum whatever that means.

I dont think avoiceinthecrowd was banned. He disappeared a few months ago.

 

The 325 mile is a recent discovery

Before that one i postedthe world record 275 mile one from Pic de Finestrelles, Spain. I post details at the end of this post.

Both of these photographic/video proofs were not much discussed here.

Evidence like these excites me a lot.

I do have a link to the photograh of the recent 325 lighthouse. I will post it later

What done it for me was viewing vids over and over about line of sight and using the curveture calculator. It is indesputable evidence the FE debunkers try to avoid.

 

 

 

 

The longest line of sight on earth photographed is 443 km (275 miles), achieved by Mark Bret Gumá (Spain), from Pic de Finestrelles, Spain, to Pic Gaspard, France, on 13 July 2016.

 

The photograph was taken using a Panasonic Lumix FZ72, following lengthy preparations in selecting the optimal date and location. The image was captured when the sun was rising behind Tête de Chabrières and Puy de la Sèche, to help increase the visibility of this peaks on the horizon.

The picture was taken from Pic de Finestrelles, in the Pyrenees mountains. Pic Gaspard, of the Alps, can be seen in the centre of the photo, 443 km away.

There are very few places on earth where it is possible to extend the line of sight so far. Due to the curvature of earth, both the observer and object must be at sufficiently high altitudes for the object to be visible at long range. The higher an observer is, the further they may see before the point where the earth curves out of sight, otherwise known as the horizon. If the earth had a uniform radius with no mountains and valleys, an individual six feet in height would view the horizon to be 5 km away from them.

 

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/66661-longest-line-of-sight-on-earth

 

This the link for the photo

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/wJpXZtoxCRCeRAYe8

 

Edited July 13 by Jikwan

[Jikwan]

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Edited August 25, 2021 by Jikwan

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1 hour ago, cuboftruth said:

And they were banned, no?

What makes you say this ?
 

[Jikwan]

This is the link for the photo of 325 mile line of sight

 

https://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/

 

 

 

 

 

 

HIDDEN World Record Low Altitude FLAT EARTH Puig Sallfort (Pyrénées-Orientales) - Île et Phare de Giraglia (Corsica) Observer = 2 227 feet / 979 mètres Distance = 325 miles / 523,79 km HO = 69,40 miles / 111,69 km HI = 43 680 feet / 13,31 km 8,27 miles 

Edited August 25, 2021 by Jikwan

[Jeraf]

On 8/25/2021 at 6:16 AM, zArk said:

The sphere defenders haven't got an answer. They haven't got a measurable curve . They have maths and a blackboard but no real measurable repeatable evidence of a curve.

 

Sure they have. You just deny it with the most ludicrous of all reasoning. Hundreds and thousands of people are all faking space travel. When you take into account all the companies who build satellites, that amounts to millions.

 

Do you ever watch videos debunking flat earth, or are you afraid to be wrong? This thread is absurd, it seems that a few people who have "done some laser stuff" "made some observations" cancels out centuries of science, labelling every physicist, cosmologist, astronomer, radio enthusiasts who bounce things off the Moon - all liars or stupid? Really?

 

We have Bflat posting as @cuboftruth if you are interested, suggesting that density is the reason for gravity with no explanation for weight or direction of fall.

 

We have all of you including @Jikwanposting about no curvature etc. ignoring refraction as though it is some dumb explanation, yet there are seriously in depth papers and explanations on how it works. Go and read these, at least make an effort to disprove your claims - that's what science does, why don't flat earthers?

 

Mirages and other atomospheric optic phenomena (gsu.edu)

Advanced Earth Curvature Calculator (bislins.ch)

 

What was that earlier from Jikwan? Where's the evidence for comets and meteorites?

 

meteorite craters - Google Search

 

This video, so simple. It shows quite clearly that viewed from two different points on Earth, the surface of the Moon MUST be different.

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by Jeraf
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[Jeraf]

Someone responding to a flat earther:

 

International Skeptics Forum - View Single Post - Amazing.The Earth is flat after all

 

1. The vanishing point. If the Earth really is flat, the vanishing point of the observer's point of view is at the observer's eye height above the ground. If the observer is six feet tall, the vanishing point is six feet above ground level. If the observer is on top of a 10,000 foot mountain, the vanishing point is 10,000 feet above ground level. The video shows the sun BELOW his vanishing point (6pm), something that he himself implies is impossible, then he ignores the fact that his diagram shows exactly that.

2. The apparent diameter of the Sun. If the Earth really is flat, and the sun really is 3,000 miles above the surface and travels parallel to the Earth's surface, then it would appear to get smaller as it got further away from the observer. The difference would be dramatic - at twice the distance, the Sun would be half the apparent size it is overhead. By the time the Sun reached the horizon, it would appear little more than a small spot of bright light.

3. Relative angular velocity of the Sun. The Sun tracks across the sky at a rate of 1° every 4 min (15°/hr). This is an undeniable, observable fact. Taking the starting point as the Sun overhead the observer, if the Sun was travelling at a constant speed on a flat Earth, it would appear to get slower and slower as it approached the horizon. The only way to reconcile this with the ob served facts is for the Sun to accelerate as it approaches the horizon.... and it would never get there because in order to do so, it speed would need to reach infinity.