The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[Morpheus]

20 minutes ago, Jikwan said:

This vid is for anyone new to the FE theory

 

Really well presented by someone that knows the subject. 2hrs long its so good you do it in one sitting

 

They are hiding god with the greatest lie ever

 

 

I like Mark Sargent a lot. Here is another one of his for those wondering how they lie about the globe earth:

 

bitchute.com/video/8iEoKugQmoSr/

 

[oddsnsods]

3 hours ago, cuboftruth said:

 

It might seem subtle, but the dome has never been shown to exist, and I believe the the gofast video is what you are referencing.

 

Again, we know a container exists as we are inside a pressurized system. Gas pressure is defined by the force applied to the container when gas particles strike its walls.

 

Container or dome would be same principle.

Great thread for identifying decepticons.

 

 

[bamboozooka]

on one hand believe the rockerfeller school science as truth

while on the other hand not believing the rockerfeller big pharma science.

pick and choose away if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy

[Morpheus]

1 minute ago, bamboozooka said:

on one hand believe the rockerfeller school science as truth

while on the other hand not believing the rockerfeller big pharma science.

pick and choose away if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy

Word

[Jikwan]

2 hours ago, Morpheus said:

I like Mark Sargent a lot. Here is another one of his for those wondering how they lie about the globe earth:

 

bitchute.com/video/8iEoKugQmoSr/

 

Checkout that booklist. It has one by m sargent

 

Mark Sargent - Flat Earth Clues - The Sky's The Limit (pdf) - roflcopter2110.pdf download

Edited August 22, 2021 by Jikwan

[oddsnsods]

 

38 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

on one hand believe the rockerfeller school science as truth

while on the other hand not believing the rockerfeller big pharma science.

pick and choose away if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy

 

 

Big pharma you mean allopathic medicine, different science this is basic physics.

 

Pick & choose ignorance or knowledge & get some i n t e g r i t y.

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2021 by oddsnsods

[Morpheus]

22 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

 

 

Big pharma you mean allopathic medicine, different science this is basic physics.

 

Pick & choose ignorance or knowledge & get some i n t e g r i t y.

 

 

 

Let's be honest though Odds, most of these guys were occultists, Newton, Einstein and many more are part of the club. We should therefore assume something is afoot. I'm not attempting to convince you of anything, but for me, the authorities do doth protest too much for something to not be going on.

[bamboozooka]

The Origin Of Education And Mandatory Schooling

https://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/01/07/the-origin-of-education-and-mandatory-schooling/

 

How Rockefeller Created the Business of Western Medicine

https://meridianhealthclinic.com/how-rockefeller-created-the-business-of-western-medicine/

 

pick and choose fuzzy wuzzy.

all created by the same hidden hand.

 

[Guest m754]

5 hours ago, peter said:

Why

 

Hi Peter, I wrote a long reply for your question but I feel addressing that particular point you seem to be curious about, will derail this FE thread and be off topic.

 

I can disprove the spinning water ball model with 100% conviction but I have not conducted any tests or experiments to directly prove a flat shape or similar...

 

The most I have got are some depictions from ancient texts that speak of a round disc shape (the word circle was wrongly translated to globe when translated to English, translation sponsored by guess who...) and another text that speaks of a similar shape appearing in a funnel shaped vortex of energy linked to 'lower' and 'higher' dimensions...I am guessing that would be the religious equivalent of heaven and hell.

 

So, yes, if I write any further it will derail this tread.

 

But thanks for the question. It got me thinking and I could write a long reply in a word file to revisit later when I have any new insights.

 

 

[oddsnsods]

Flerther god squad. You guys are no different to the Covidian masses for real.

 

Nothing to do with Strawman Rockefeller medicine.

 

Its beyond retarded to try to deny oxygen/nitrogen diminishes at altitude.

 

 

 2 + 2 = 5

 

Ignorance is strength.

 

Epstein killed himself.

[peter]

On 8/21/2021 at 8:18 AM, Jikwan said:

Comets do not exist

Same as dinasaurs....another hoax. Not a single dinosaur bone exists

Im a FE beginer. There aint too many FE heavyweights around these days

Edited Saturday at 08:24 AM by Jikwan

Thank you for showing us a window into a brilliant mind

I believe you have three members now for you tribute band, one more you will be able to go on tour 

 

There aint too many FE heavyweights around these days,I agree but the ones that are seemed to be making money on the speaking circuit or making click bait videos for financial gain.

As far as Bflat aka amyG being your FE idle , your easily impressed.

 

Still waiting for new evidence which was the pretext of this thread, or at the very least a counter argument as to why I think lasers across lakes are invalid as evidence for a flat earth, I thought someone would jump on that as it is a big part of your argument and without it would leave a rather large hole ( best ignore it then hey)

[Guest m754]

35 minutes ago, peter said:

Thank you for showing us a window into a brilliant mind

I believe you have three members now for you tribute band, one more you will be able to go on tour 

 

There aint too many FE heavyweights around these days,I agree but the ones that are seemed to be making money on the speaking circuit or making click bait videos for financial gain.

As far as Bflat aka amyG being your FE idle , your easily impressed.

 

Still waiting for new evidence which was the pretext of this thread, or at the very least a counter argument as to why I think lasers across lakes are invalid as evidence for a flat earth, I thought someone would jump on that as it is a big part of your argument and without it would leave a rather large hole ( best ignore it then hey)

On second thoughts, Peter, ignore my previous reply to you. It was too 'nicely' drafted. I am unable to delete it now.

 

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in spite of your snide remarks on my post on another thread, for which you then sent a PM.. but you do not deserve to be responded to from now on..

 

Do you think I am stupid enough to post the entire 'occult' structure of the --- step way this reality manifests? Seriously?? For what purpose---1) You will mock and joke about it, 2) A sacred knowledge to be shared with *** like you. What does one of the religious text books say about casting pearls before swines...? What are the words..?

 

So here it goes.

 

S T F U. And stop insults and ad hominem attacks on people who view this reality differently. (Go & squeal to the mods now...)

 

The reason not too many express something like this on public view is either because they do not wish to be bothered by *** like you or are already on finding the exit out of here, while you help further the agenda of the controllers who have us in a state of bewildered hypnosis.

 

Adios 

[Jikwan]

17 minutes ago, m754 said:

On second thoughts, Peter, ignore my previous reply to you. It was too 'nicely' drafted. I am unable to delete it now.

 

I gave you the benefit of the doubt in spite of your snide remarks on my post on another thread, for which you then sent a PM.. but you do not deserve to be responded to from now on..

 

Do you think I am stupid enough to post the entire 'occult' structure of the --- step way this reality manifests? Seriously?? For what purpose---1) You will mock and joke about it, 2) A sacred knowledge to be shared with *** like you. What does one of the religious text books say about casting pearls before swines...? What are the words..?

 

So here it goes.

 

S T F U. And stop insults and ad hominem attacks on people who view this reality differently. (Go & squeal to the mods now...)

 

The reason not too many express something like this on public view is either because they do not wish to be bothered by *** like you or are already on finding the exit out of here, while you help further the agenda of the controllers who have us in a state of bewildered hypnosis.

 

Adios 

First class post

Very accurate and well written

[oddsnsods]

 

Truth fears no investigation.

 

 

[peter]

2 hours ago, m754 said:

S T F U. And stop insults and ad hominem attacks on people who view this reality differently. (Go & squeal to the mods now...)

It's not the fact they view  reality differently everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just back it up with some evidence or at the very least put forward a rational argument simple

[Xelador]

Any Eddie Bravo fans here?
 

 

[Jikwan]

1 hour ago, Xelador said:

Any Eddie Bravo fans here?
 

 

Of course. Hes one FE giant i can listen to a bit and its good but not for too long

 There are other speakers i ll listen 3hrs straight

[peter]

On 8/22/2021 at 6:53 PM, Jikwan said:

Programming occurs as a result of repeated actions or messages. This programming creates your beliefs, your beliefs guide your actions, and your actions create your reality.

 

Well since you don't wish to discuss or debate anything,there is no point in being here but on a positive note  at least we can part company actually agreeing on something .

Since you have your band together now may I suggest this song as part of your line up

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXvGEFLnF5Q

 

[bamboozooka]

still waiting for peter to produce some globular evidence

[Jikwan]

7 minutes ago, bamboozooka said:

still waiting for peter to produce some globular evidence

All evidence that proves round spinning ball is neccessarily lies

False

[cuboftruth]

  

On 8/1/2021 at 8:51 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

 

According to Dubay, the Freemasons are largely behind this (suspected) hoax. He writes of how many who have worked for NASA as well as many of the Apollo astronauts were Masons, as was Isaac Newton who was influential in helping to spread the word of gravity.

Not only nasa and newton, but literally all of them responsible for the spinning-water-rocks and gas-rocks in 'space.'

 

They all took the time to have their masonic portraits done. I know this has been posted on other threads. The masonic lodge is a tribute to our plane with the sun and moon and other terrestrial lights overhead. Every religion and culture across history had similar representations.

 

On 8/2/2021 at 4:21 PM, Hegel Schmegel said:

Playing Devil's Advocate here...

 

How to respond to the argument put forth by ball earth proponents that a person could travel around the entire earth in one direction and end up returning to where they had departed -- something, they say, which could not be done using the FE model. 

 

Spurious or an actual stumper?

Clearly spurious as you can do the same thing around cuba, ireland, australia, etc., and they certainly are not spheres!

 

On 8/6/2021 at 12:07 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Regardless of whether you believe the earth is flat or is a globe, we can still see a horizon. Unless there is something I am mssing?

 

 

 

On 8/7/2021 at 11:08 AM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

When I stand at the top of the Lickey Hills near Birmingham, I can see for miles, but I do see a 'conjunction' where the sky meets the land. If that is not a 'horizon' then what is it?

That is what the entire 'flat earth' idea revolves around. That is what artists have known for centuries. That is exactly what 'flat earthers" explain.

 

If the earth was the imagined spinning-water-rock, in any way spherical, the horizon would be what the mainstream narrative claims. It would be physical. It would be an actual thing and not the result of how our eyes work. Things beyond it would start to become invisible and no camera on earth would ever be able to change that.

[Jikwan]

93 km

Nikon P1000

 

 

[cuboftruth]

 

On 8/11/2021 at 11:37 AM, zArk said:

1st .. you think i am looking for a solution after the obvious conclusion that there is no curve.

2nd .. you didnt watch the entire video 

those  are levelling points where the laser was identified above the water.

 

3rd that video screenshot is massively deceiving, further it was using sugar and it was refraction through a liquid so not at all relatable to the 'over the water' experiment.

4th .. the videod experiment was documented with all environmental factors included.

 

tbh @Gav if that video of sugar is the reply, it is a baseless 'solution'

 

On 8/11/2021 at 2:20 PM, bamboozooka said:

space universe > here comes the sun is the thread

 

video

 

 

On 8/11/2021 at 2:30 PM, zArk said:

It is entirely deceivious

 

This scene is nothing like the actual experiment. Can you tell me the time this picture was lifted from the video?

 

There was no sugar content of the air recorded at lake Balaton so theres no relevance. 

 

Flat earth businessmen?.jeeze, I cant really get involved in that claim

 

  

The end height of laser was 1.8m whereas the globe model required 4.32m.

 

I conclude from your quoted statement above in this post that the globe heads say

The theoretical calculations are perfect and unquestionable...... 4.32meters

 

But they cant be demonstrated because the variable factors of the earth prevent accurate recording 

 

Do you realised how pathetic it is to defend and promote cognitive dissonance?

 

The experiment showed a massive difference between planet measurable and globe theory.

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 8/12/2021 at 7:01 AM, zArk said:

 

 

well, just leave the thread and allow it to progress with people who wish to discuss this subject.

 

 

 

On 8/12/2021 at 2:09 PM, Morpheus said:

I don't think what I have added is old, I think it's quite the opposite. Plus the videos aren't that old. They're interesting BC, you should take a look.

 

What I keep viewing is people who interested in this subject want to talk about it, and others just want to shout them people down for wanting to discuss a subject and learn about it. But they're constantly having to defend themselves for posting something they've viewed, but the opposition don't bother to view the material (maybe not in all cases) and launch into a tirade of abuse for presenting anything.

 

It's also apparent that neither side of the argument is looking to address (not in all cases) any arguments that are posted in either direction and just deflect with more questions. 

 

I don't see why these people, who frankly shouldn't care less what other people think, are actually bothered by what people are thinking. It's a strange paradox that I don't understand why they can't leave it alone. If they believe the opposite then why do they care someone doesn't believe the earth is a sphere/oblate spheroid?

 

Then further questions develop to understand this paradox and frankly this is why there is a suspicion of why this paradox occurs. 

 

Personally I like the subject, I just don't see why it should bother other people who want to discuss this subject without criticism. You don't see this type of behaviour on any other topic on this forum. It stirs the imagination as to why. A conundrum if you will, this is why I'm suspicious because one doth protest too much. Suspect as fuck. 

Like, like, like, like, like! Sorry, but I got a message about having mo likes left or something?

 

These are all what I would call GIGANTIC points. You guys are great.

Edited August 24, 2021 by cuboftruth
out of likes

[gregory-peccary]

I downloaded the 'Flat Earth Clues' pdf by Mark Sargent recommended by Jikwan.

What follows is a comprehensive rebuttal of the first few pages.

 

On page 13 of Flat Earth Clues headed ‘Your Guide to The Flat Earth’ the first error occurs in paragraph 3.

 

“But for those who have never forgotten their history, here’s the modified “Men In Black” version. For the first 4,000 years of our civilization, we believed that the earth was a flattish disk, surrounded by a solid dome barrier called the Firmament. All of the five major religions had their own version of this, and the churches enforced the belief.”

 

Except: the Chaldeans knew the earth was round and stated

‘that the moon’s light is reflected and her eclipses are due to the shadow of the earth.’

They are the same Chaldeans mentioned in Genesis 11:31 when Abraham left Ur of the Chaldees with his family.

 

Let’s move forward to the Romans and Pliny who wrote

‘Human beings are distributed all round the earth and stand with their feet pointing towards each other… Another marvel, that the earth herself hangs suspended and does not fall and carry us with it.’

 

And so we move on to paragraph 4.

“Then, around 1514, a man named Copernicus created a new model of the world. He stated that if the earth was spinning around 1,100 miles an hour, and circling the sun at 60,000 miles an hour, the world was round.”

 

But the ancient Greeks knew the world was round. Eratosthhenes was born about 276BC and calculated the diameter of the earth.

 

Copernicus used the very accurate observations of Tycho Brahe to prove heliocentrism – the planets orbit the sun. Tycho Brahe would have none of it, he stuck to geocentrism, the sun, moon, and planets orbited the earth in circular orbits.

 

Now our hero Tycho Brahe comes to the rescue to demolish the solid dome Firmament in paragraph 1.

 

 

The 1577 comet.

Shown above is a depiction of the 1577 comet observed by Tycho, which remained visible from November 1577 to January 1578. His observations revealed no measurable parallax, implying that the comet was located beyond the sphere of the moon.

His reconstruction of the comet's orbital path (below), from brightening and dimming and displacement with respect to the background stars, indicated that the comet moved across the concentric planetary crystalline spheres. This supported the notion of a "fluid heaven" and contradicted the physical reality of these spheres as real, hard, transparent, and contiguous spherical shells.

 

 

Orbital path (1577 comet).

The comet's path is drawn within Tycho's planetary system, where all planets orbit around the Sun, with the latter orbiting a fixed Earth. Note that the comet's path crosses numerous planetary spheres, from which Tycho concluded that the said spheres could not be crystalline, solid objects as assumed by Aristotle. Like Nicolaus Copernicus and other earlier astronomers, Tycho clung firmly to the notion of perfectly circular orbits for all heavenly bodies; Johannes Kepler would be the first to break from this particular theory.

 

The observatory that Tycho Brahe had built at Uraniborg on the island of Hven in 1576 was one of the last in Europe before the invention of the telescope.

Edited August 24, 2021 by gregory-peccary
fixing typos

[Jikwan]

The problem i have with comets is theyve never in recorded history has anyone witnessed a comet entering our atmosphere and crashing or exploding before contact of the ground.

When we look up we re always seeing "comets" streaking by sometimes thin streaks sometimes thicker. So what...? A giant one might "fly by" every 5000 years.

These "stars/planets/comets" are programmed into the firmament like computer software....why not?

Hey, i dont know its my opinion only

A lot of stuff like this we can only guess

Its because no one knows (im refering to giant comets and planets out there)

 

Edited August 24, 2021 by Jikwan