The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[MrA]

13 minutes ago, bflat said:

This lie is put forth by freemasons.

Not only has Polaris been in the same place since we looked at the sky, all the other stars form perfect circles over time. This in itself is impossible in spinning ball world.

 

Actually everyone is being taught that Polaris is the ONLY star in the sky that doesnt move

 

https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/skytellers/constellations/activities/zodiac.shtml

 

Which is odd isnt it ? Lol

 

Glad we have established North though because thats going to help 

 

 

Edited May 31, 2020 by MrA

[peter]

8 minutes ago, bflat said:

 

4 minutes ago, bflat said:

I'm sorry to hear that, but based on the above post, I can hardly believe you have researched this in the least.

 

Be honest for a second. What is more likely? People would fall off of a flat, stationary plane

-or-

people would fall off a ball moving at a speed that is several times that of sound and in multiple different directions as it spins at over 1000 mph (faster than sound again)?

you have obviously never herd of gravity, it's a biggie in scientific circles and I believe apples have something to do with it

 

 

(I'm sorry to hear that, but based on the above post, I can hardly believe you have researched this in the least.)

 

Think what you like at the moment I'm only buggering about but we should be able to post in a few days hopefully 

 

 

 

[bflat]

2 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Actually everyone is being taught that Polaris is the ONLY star in the sky that doesnt move

 

https://www.lpi.usra.edu/education/skytellers/constellations/activities/zodiac.shtml

 

Which is odd isnt it ? Lol

 

Glad we have established North though because thats going to help 

 

 

North is simply the center of our plane. There is a magnet there that sits directly under Polaris. Compasses are based on this principle and work as they do because of our flat plane. This is why no matter where on earth you are, if you travel away from magnetic north you hit the ice wall. South is the outside of our plane according to all compasses.

 

Now stop being distracted. Points 2-5 await you.

[peter]

9 minutes ago, bflat said:

I answered your question and you did not answer to my response. Please focus on the five points in the OP if you really wish to explore this topic.

 

Thanks

Sorry mate I'm obviously a bit thick can you explain it again just for me

[MrA]

3 minutes ago, bflat said:

You're back to this red herring stuff which is distracting you from the five points in the OP.

 

We have done the impossible horizons. I have showed you the calculations. If you still have not figured out that these horizons cannot be possible on a ball the size that modern astronomy claims, it is time to move on to points two through five.

 

 

 

So Polaris and the Great Pyramid are red herrings ? 

 

 

[bflat]

1 minute ago, peter said:

you have obviously never herd of gravity, it's a biggie in scientific circles and I believe apples have something to do with it 

Of course it is. It solves all their problems, but even the freemasons have to admit that it is nothing more than theory. Beyond that, it is a shitty theory, but it is a necessity for the freemasonic delusion to persist.

 

Newton simply did not realize that gravity was unnecessary to explain the apple popping him on his head. Had he had a better understanding of density, let alone the conditions of the tree he was sitting under including, but not limited to how dry the stem was that was holding the apple prior to its fall, we likely would not even be here.

 

 

 

[MrA]

3 minutes ago, bflat said:

North is simply the center of our plane. There is a magnet there that sits directly under Polaris. Compasses are based on this principle and work as they do because of our flat plane. This is why no matter where on earth you are, if you travel away from magnetic north you hit the ice wall. South is the outside of our plane according to all compasses.

 

Now stop being distracted. Points 2-5 await you.

 

So theres a big magnet under Polaris ? 

 

You can sure think on your feet

[peter]

1 minute ago, bflat said:

Of course it is. It solves all their problems, but even the freemasons have to admit that it is nothing more than theory. Beyond that, it is a shitty theory, but it is a necessity for the freemasonic delusion to persist.

 

Newton simply did not realize that gravity was unnecessary to explain the apple popping him on his head. Had he had a better understanding of density, let alone the conditions of the tree he was sitting under including, but not limited to how dry the stem was that was holding the apple prior to its fall, we likely would not even be here.

 

 

 

 

 

 Do me a favor ,just jump off a ten story building then tell me gravity is just a theory

[bflat]

2 minutes ago, MrA said:

So Polaris and the Great Pyramid are red herrings ?

Anything distracting you from the obvious points in the OP will distract you.

 

3 minutes ago, peter said:

Sorry mate I'm obviously a bit thick can you explain it again just for me

Here are the five simple points:

1) Impossible horizons

2) Natural physics of water

3) Natural gas law

4) Emergency landings prove pilots use a flat earth map and they have never used a globe

5) Not only pilot manuals, but nasa's own technical documents repeatedly reference a stationary flat earth!

 

There is much more detail in the OP.

[bflat]

1 minute ago, peter said:

 

 

 Do me a favor ,just jump off a ten story building then tell me gravity is just a theory

How can you claim to have researched this? You don't need gravity to explain the apple falling on Newton or why jumping off buildings is stupid. If you didn't understand the importance of the above pic, just google density tower. You can create one yourself.

[MrA]

18 minutes ago, bflat said:

North is simply the center of our plane. There is a magnet there that sits directly under Polaris. Compasses are based on this principle and work as they do because of our flat plane. This is why no matter where on earth you are, if you travel away from magnetic north you hit the ice wall. South is the outside of our plane according to all compasses.

 

Now stop being distracted. Points 2-5 await you.

 

So Polaris is right in the middle of our plane directly above us but anyone living far south of the Equator cannot see it 

 

OP Point 1 Impossible Horizons 

Edited May 31, 2020 by MrA

[MrA]

5 minutes ago, bflat said:

How can you claim to have researched this? You don't need gravity to explain the apple falling on Newton or why jumping off buildings is stupid. If you didn't understand the importance of the above pic, just google density tower. You can create one yourself.

 

You can also create a vacuum yourself and all of those objects will fall at the same acceleration 

[alexa]

1 minute ago, MrA said:

So theres a big magnet under Polaris ? 

 Yes there is and it's called 'Rupes Nigra'! middle or center of earth.

[MrA]

Just now, alexa said:

 Yes there is and it's called 'Rupes Nigra'! middle or center of earth.

 

Ok so its right in the middle.all.of the time and doesnt move at all

 

But anyone living much further south of the equator cannot see it 

 

OP Point One Impossible Horizons 

 

 

[serpentine]

 

[MrA]

So to explain Polaris being North , FE model now requires that anybody living at the outer edges of the plane cannot see directly above themselves 

 

Why cant those living at the outer edges of the flat plane see directly above themselves to locate North if those in the center of the flat plane can ? 

 

 

[bflat]

8 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Ok so its right in the middle.all.of the time and doesnt move at all

 

But anyone living much further south of the equator cannot see it 

 

OP Point One Impossible Horizons 

 

 

You are distracted still with this. Who knows with the way technology continues to improve what we will see in the future or how far. Point one in the OP focuses on what we know now. We know NOW that we see horizons far beyond (over ten times) where they should be. You make this hard on yourself when the video evidence is right there for you in the OP.

 

Try for two through five and see what you can find.

 

 

3 minutes ago, MrA said:

Why cant those living at the outer edges of the flat plane see directly above themselves to locate North if those in the center of the flat plane can ?  

Perspective. bro... and atmospheric conditions, light pollution, etc.. You've been answered multiple times.

 

The above video is from just four degrees above our equator. Do you see how low in the sky Polaris is from their perspective, yet still remains clearly visible?

[zArk]

 

 

not one photo or video of earth from space but interesting to how the 3d globe is projected onto a 2d drawing

 

Edited May 31, 2020 by zArk

[bflat]

13 minutes ago, zArk said:

 

 

not one photo or video of earth from space but interesting to how the 3d globe is projected onto a 2d drawing

 

LOL!

And this is how they have taken our world map and turned it into a sphere:

Urbano Monte’s Massive Map of the Earth (1587)

Of course, once the image is digital you can map it into all sorts of different projections like Mercator or Ortelius oval projection.

 

Jeremy Ashkenas even created a rotatable & zoomable globe of Monte’s map that is incredibly fun to play with.

https://kottke.org/19/07/urbano-montes-massive-map-of-the-earth-1587

 

 

 

[MrA]

19 minutes ago, bflat said:

 

 

The above video is from just four degrees above our equator. Do you see how low in the sky Polaris is from their perspective, yet still remains clearly visible?

 

Yes It would be lower in the sky the further south you go until you cant see it anymore

 

So how does that work in terms of explaining your model of Polaris being directly in the middle of the flat earth right at the centre and never moving from being directly above us ? 

 

If it is directly above us at all times and never moves an inch , which we also call North how do you explain the outer edge of the flat plane being unable to see it at all ? 

 

It just does not make any sense at all 

 

On a flat plane if something is directly above the flat plane right smack bang in the middle then it would be visible from any point on the flat plane 

 

And Polaris isnt visible to anyone living anywhere on the Earth who lives much farther south of the equator 

 

Line of site doesnt cut it 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[peter]

1 minute ago, bflat said:

Anything distracting you from the obvious points in the OP will distract you.

 

Here are the five simple points:

1) Impossible horizons

2) Impossible horizons

3) Natural gas law

4) Emergency landings prove pilots use a flat earth map and they have never used a globe

5) Not only pilot manuals, but nasa's own technical documents repeatedly reference a stationary flat earth!

 

There is much more detail in the OP.

 

1 minute ago, bflat said:

How can you claim to have researched this? You don't need gravity to explain the apple falling on Newton or why jumping off buildings is stupid. If you didn't understand the importance of the above pic, just google density tower. You can create one yourself.

 Gee wiz you give me some graphics on how valves and air pressure work to allude to the fact that earth is flat , fuck me I take acid occasionally and I don't come up with shit like that

 1 Impossible horizons, are you referring to the ocean with the red line or Mt Everast if you are you need to go to the optometrist as they clearly show the curvature of the horizon

2 What has the physics of water got to do with the curvature of the earth unless you are referring to the total weight of the oceans and rivers or maybe the evaporation and condensation cycle has something to do with it or the fact it is the only natural substance that has a negative temperature coefficient of expansion , or possibly the recent discovery last year that not only did water behave as a liquid  but also contained geometric constructs in the form of tetrahedrons which in it's self is very interesting as a 64 tetrahedron grid is the only geometric shape that is in complete equilibrium as the force is exactly the same from every dimensional vector. please explain your assumptions 

3 Can you explain the your inference of natural gas as I have obviously missed something

4 Also can you explain how an emergency landing of an aircraft Segways into your theory of of the earth being flat

5 this was what I was going to use as a rebuttal but I can't post them at present

A reply to the questions in point form would be greatly appreciated so there is no misunderstanding on my part as I'm obviously a bit thick

[bflat]

6 minutes ago, MrA said:

 

Yes It would be lower in the sky the further south you go until you cant see it anymore

 

So how does that work in terms of explaining your model of Polaris being directly in the middle of the flat earth right at the centre and never moving from being directly above us ? 

 

If it is directly above us at all times and never moves an inch , which we also call North how do you explain the outer edge of the flat plane being unable to see it at all ? 

 

It just does not make any sense at all 

 

On a flat plane if something is directly above the flat plane right smack bang in the middle then it would be visible from any point on the flat plane 

 

And Polaris isnt visible to anyone living anywhere on the Earth who lives much farther south of the equator 

 

Line of site doesnt cut it 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Last explanation for you and then we'll agree to disagree and you will still not once focus on the impossible horizons from the OP's video evidence.

 

I can explain it, but can't make you understand it... clearly. Hope this helps:

 

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vanishing_point

[bflat]

4 minutes ago, peter said:

 

 Gee wiz you give me some graphics on how valves and air pressure work to allude to the fact that earth is flat , fuck me I take acid occasionally and I don't come up with shit like that 

 1 Impossible horizons, are you referring to the ocean with the red line or Mt Everast if you are you need to go to the optometrist as they clearly show the curvature of the horizon 

2 What has the physics of water got to do with the curvature of the earth unless you are referring to the total weight of the oceans and rivers or maybe the evaporation and condensation cycle has something to do with it or the fact it is the only natural substance that has a negative temperature coefficient of expansion , or possibly the recent discovery last year that not only did water behave as a liquid  but also contained geometric constructs in the form of tetrahedrons which in it's self is very interesting as a 64 tetrahedron grid is the only geometric shape that is in complete equilibrium as the force is exactly the same from every dimensional vector. please explain your assumptions 

3 Can you explain the your inference of natural gas as I have obviously missed something 

4 Also can you explain how an emergency landing of an aircraft Segways into your theory of of the earth being flat

5 this was what I was going to use as a rebuttal but I can't post them at present

A reply to the questions in point form would be greatly appreciated so there is no misunderstanding on my part as I'm obviously a bit thick

1) No curvature has ever been seen by anyone other than freemasons. Neil the ass tyson, the freemason heliocentric priest has admitted this several times.

 And no, I was talking about how we know NOW that we see horizons far beyond (over ten times) where they should be. You make this hard on yourself when the video evidence is right there for you in the OP.

 

2) Water covers 70% of our supposed ball. The natural physics of water determines that it fills its container and lies flat on the top. The laser video in the OP illustrates this clearly.

 

3) It's all in the OP. Actual science is clear on this one, yet you began your response sarcastically with this:

10 minutes ago, peter said:

Gee wiz you give me some graphics on how valves and air pressure work to allude to the fact that earth is flat , fuck me I take acid occasionally and I don't come up with shit like that 

Try to understand that simple and obvious graphic when NOT on drugs and read what follows concerning "infinite vacuum space" next to our pressurized system, let alone inside it, lol. All this was covered.

 

4) Just watch the video. It's very clear.

 

5) You skipped all the documents so I can assume you agree there.

[MrA]

26 minutes ago, bflat said:

Last explanation for you and then we'll agree to disagree and you will still not once focus on the impossible horizons from the OP's video evidence.

 

I can explain it, but can't make you understand it... clearly. Hope this helps:

 

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Vanishing_point

 

Nope the North Star is directly above the flat plan right in the middle 

 

Thats not the same 

[MrA]

And if its directly in the center of a flat plane that contradicts the fact that Polaris appears to be at different points on the horizon depending on where we are on Earth 

 

As you have pointed out the closer to the equator we get the lower Polaris gets 

 

And in the FE model the equator is the middle of the flat disc which is , apparently directly facing that light known as the north star 

 

Everyone on the flat plane should be able to see it and they cant