The Flat Earth/Globe Earth Discussion Thread

[alexa]

8 hours ago, peter said:

I think that should read

He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, with a lump of 4x2 to squash it's people like grasshoppers if they stuff up

 

Well fortunately for us it doesn't. 

[amy G]

On 10/20/2020 at 6:46 PM, amy G said:

But you haven't answered my question as to why you think planes land upside down in Australia, and what makes you think that?

I just took this quick clip. I hope this helps. While not in perfect focus, it begins with a very tight close-up view that hopefully drives this point home.

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by amy G

[peter]

2 hours ago, amy G said:

I just took this quick clip. I hope this helps. While not in perfect focus, it begins with a very tight close-up view that hopefully drives this point home.

 

 

 

The moon again for the umteenth time ,how much do you make every time someone clicks on your link, I haven't looked at one yet, 6 subscribers ha ,I bet I could name three

[alexa]

See ........even the birds know there home is flat

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by alexa

[Diesel]

Would you still claim the earth is flat if it wasn't in the Bible?

 

How much is your belief tied with belief in God?

 

It seems like FE have a blinkered view because they believe FE is a question of faith.

Edited October 23, 2020 by Diesel

[peter]

4 hours ago, alexa said:

See ........even the birds know there home is flat

 

 

 

 

 

 

That is the most scientific explanation for a flat earth you have posted so far,so there has obviously been somewhat of an improvement not on par with amy(click bait )G though

Edited October 23, 2020 by peter

[Steph]

4 hours ago, alexa said:

See ........even the birds know there home is flat

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thats been photoshopped. Wheres the tip of the branch?

[Steph]

1 hour ago, Diesel said:

Would you still claim the earth is flat if it wasn't in the Bible?

 

How much is your belief tied with belief in God?

 

It seems like FE have a blinkered view because they believe FE is a question of faith.

You belive the earth is round because its on your television. What if the television people were lying and portrayed a false belief system which blinded its believers to the kingdom of god. Im convinced the earth has at least four dimensions not including the pseudo-dimension of time. Dont mind me though, I perceive things people say arent there like fake democracy, and the flatness of the terrestrial plane. Im not saying I dont see the hills and ocean swells, I just dont see a big round thing in outer space because Ive never been more than than the height of a 737 above an earth that still looked flat.

[alexa]

8 hours ago, Diesel said:

Would you still claim the earth is flat if it wasn't in the Bible?

 

That's a good question Diesel, yes I would still claim the earth is flat, as I started to read about biblical cosmology sometime after I found out the earth was flat. The Bible/God just confirmed my belief about the earth, it was like the cherry on top. I literally thank God for his confirmation.

[zArk]

9 hours ago, Diesel said:

It seems like FE have a blinkered view because they believe FE is a question of faith.

dunno about that.

if there is no curvature and in fact the land is demonstrably flat

 

why bring faith into a pretty straight forward situation

 

land flat, water flat ..... no answer from 'things can only get better' or tyson the actor

[alexa]

9 hours ago, Steph said:

Im convinced the earth has at least four dimensions not including the pseudo-dimension of time.

 

The earth has seven, these are called the seven heavens.

 

 

The Quran

 

Do you not see how God has created the seven heavens
one above the other,
and made the moon a light in their midst,
and made the sun as a lamp? (71:15-16)

Edited October 24, 2020 by alexa

[Steph]

14 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

The earth has seven, these are called the seven heavens.

The Quran

Do you not see how God has created the seven heavens
one above the other,
and made the moon a light in their midst,
and made the sun as a lamp? (71:15-16)

 

 

 

 

One above the other ... that description is scalar ... ie one dimension. Three dimensions of visible space and one dimension of invisible space along which are the heavens.

 

[peter]

On 10/22/2020 at 9:39 AM, oddsnsods said:

Talking of stumps Alexa...new theory.

 

 

 

 

 

Odds I think your onto something, it has become blatantly obvious after seeing this that the devil's tower was once a giant mushroom. All I need is a camera a utube channel and a plane ticket and I'm set

[zArk]

wheres Brainless Cox to high five this video?

this was posted to my kids Cubs FB page

 

Quote

We know that the Earth rotates on its Axis & revolves around the Sun.But we can't feel it at all.But here one astrophotographer has made this exceptionally beautiful video where in we can feel the rotation of the Earth.He has used a Equatorial Tracking mount.He aligned it with the North Star & kept clicking photos every 12 seconds for next three hours.The camera remains focused at the same portion of the Milky Way & hence it appears stationary.The movement of the Earth is felt so beautifully

 

 

 

 

hold on to your hats, the titanic, ermm land, is sinking

 

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by zArk

[TheAwakened]

I remember researching Flat Earth. My conclusion...

 

The Earth from MY point of view is flat. I have been on a plane and on the London Eye and tall buildings. - It looks flat for miles around. I have never felt the earth travel around our Star nor have I seen the earth from "space" It may as well be flat. 

 

Until I go to space and see it first hand its Flat.

[alexa]

4 hours ago, peter said:

Odds I think your onto something, it has become blatantly obvious after seeing this that the devil's tower was once a giant mushroom. All I need is a camera a utube channel and a plane ticket and I'm set

 

I never said that the Devils tower was a giant mushroom. look again, I said it was a giant tree stump .........

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by alexa

[alexa]

33 minutes ago, TheAwakened said:

I remember researching Flat Earth. My conclusion...

 

The Earth from MY point of view is flat. I have been on a plane and on the London Eye and tall buildings. - It looks flat for miles around. I have never felt the earth travel around our Star nor have I seen the earth from "space" It may as well be flat. 

 

Until I go to space and see it first hand its Flat.

 

Exactly TheAwakened, its nice to see that you are. 

[serpentine]

3 hours ago, TheAwakened said:

I remember researching Flat Earth. My conclusion...

 

The Earth from MY point of view is flat. I have been on a plane and on the London Eye and tall buildings. - It looks flat for miles around. I have never felt the earth travel around our Star nor have I seen the earth from "space" It may as well be flat. 

 

Until I go to space and see it first hand its Flat.

 

Thanks for the contribution.

 

 

Unfortunately the thread title is "The reality of our physical plane".

 

So one viewpoint  doesn't cut it.

[serpentine]

Here's another viewpoint from looks like what might be Australia.

 

The scenery has all been cunningly glued on or nailed down.

 

 

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by serpentine

[oddsnsods]

7 hours ago, peter said:

Odds I think your onto something, it has become blatantly obvious after seeing this that the devil's tower was once a giant mushroom. All I need is a camera a utube channel and a plane ticket and I'm set

 

It could be petrified giant fungi or tree stump.

 

[Diesel]

On 10/24/2020 at 7:11 AM, alexa said:

That's a good question Diesel, yes I would still claim the earth is flat, as I started to read about biblical cosmology sometime after I found out the earth was flat. The Bible/God just confirmed my belief about the earth, it was like the cherry on top. I literally thank God for his confirmation.

What made you first think the earth was flat if not the bible?

[alexa]

9 hours ago, Diesel said:

What made you first think the earth was flat if not the bible?

 

I came to the truth of flat earth through a good friend of ours 'Richard', he began describing flat earth to the likes of a 'Mexican hat' and somehow FE began to resonate with me.

So I began to google 'Earth Looking like a Mexican hat'

I came up with this pic, this is a picture of a libation bowel used by the Ancient's for drinking wine out of, but when you look at one of these you have to ask yourself how can one drink wine out of one of these ?

It's my belief this is how the ancients depicted earth, they made
hundreds if not thousands of these just like our globe today.

But I literally do thank God for his confirmation of FE

 

 

[amy G]

On 10/24/2020 at 6:19 PM, serpentine said:

Here's another viewpoint from looks like what might be Australia.

 

The scenery has all been cunningly glued on or nailed down.

 

 

 

I have no idea what you thought that video showed, but I saw a near perfectly flat plane revolving over something 'milkywayish.'

 

@peter

POINT 2: Long ago, we should have been seeing video of planes and ships encircling our world in all directions including landing upside down and traveling upside down on "the bottom" of this incredible flying spheroid.

 

How do I know this? It is because of these incredibly detailed pictures and videos that I can now capture at will. I just took this tonight in 35 mph winds and while certainly not perfect, the detail is unmistakable and quite fascinating imho.

 

That is the last frame from here:

 

 

I chuckled at you thinking this has anything to do with making money as not one of my videos are monetized. I really just hope you and any of my viewers enjoy.

 

If the plane example I offered for @Grumpy Owl didn't resonate with you, may I suggest considering the size of cruise ships?

 

For reference, I was pointing out the size difference between the ISS that we are told we can clearly see moving at over 17,000 mph and larger commercial aircraft as shown here:

 

Now we have to compare these massive objects to our cruise ships. I found this amazing.

 

It’s easy for a modern cruise ship to have 20 decks and thousands of cabins. If you’ve ever sailed on one of these ships — or even seen them in port — then you know how imposing they can be. They seemingly take up the entire landscape.

As a passenger, it can take days until you get your bearings about getting around the ship and you might not even see the entire thing during your cruise.

 

 How many planes and space stations would fit on that thing?

 

 

https://www.cruzely.com/the-worlds-largest-cruise-ship-compared-to-famous-places/

 

Modus tollens again confirms.

If they could show us pictures and video of ships and planes flying and landing in all the ways they must do if we lived on a spheroid... including upside down, they would have.

They never have.

Therefore, no ships nor planes do this and we do not live on a spheroid.

I am sorry if this seems repetitive, but an actual thought out, logical, fact-based answer would put this simple question away for good.

 

I hope you and the fam are well.

Edited October 26, 2020 by amy G

[peter]

there is simple answer ,it's known as gravity Mr click bait,who was it that said never argue with an idiot ,they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience every time. This is like banging your head against the wall ,it's good when it stops

1 hour ago, amy G said:

I am sorry if this seems repetitive

No it's not repetitive ,it has degenerated into absolute monotony  and is decidedly  boring ,  for someone that is a math wiz

and worked in the aerospace industry( I find that hard to believe) and is  doing so called research, your terms of reference are obviously very limited and as such you are only able to form a rather biased  view  ,therefore you are not doing legitimate  research you are only bolstering your ill informed preconceived ideas. Even when we had the 15 point discussion ,you couldn't even stick to the agreement ( dose in your own words ring a bell)

This will be my last post in this thread, please see statement above for my sanitized opinion of you

[Steph]

13 hours ago, Diesel said:

What made you first think the earth was flat if not the bible?

I was about five years old or something and when I looked, the earth looked flat. Something made think the earth was round I had implicit trust in. When the things that seemed right to you as a kid start looking like the truth concealled by a world in which you misplaced trust, you question everything. Sophistry and philosophy begin to show themselves in the course of time. Sophists say "science says...", philosophers say "nature says...". Science in its original context is the philosophy of nature. The true scientist isnt seeking what scientists say as an end. These are sometimes helpful, sometimes obstacles from what true scientists seek ... wisdom from nature itself.